2012 NY PF Chris Obekpa (offer)

[Lobot]

Chris Obekpa '12

Ht: 6-8 Wt: 210
Position: PF
Year: Class of 2012
High School: Our Savior New American School
(Centereach, NY)

[Lobot]

Offered today per Hoop Scoop.

[GoBearcats31]

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/12/obekpa-hosts-trio-of-schools/


Chris Obekpa, a 6-foot-9 Nigerian power forward at Our Savior New American on Long Island, hosted head coaches from UCLA, Providence and Cincinnati on Sunday for in-home visits.

Ben Howland had Phil Mathews with him. Ed Cooley brought Andre LaFleur and Mick Cronin was accompanied by Darren Savino.

...


“We spoke about possibly taking an unofficial to Providence,” Jaklitsch said. “We spoke to UCLA and Cincinnati about taking official visits out there once he gets his SAT and everything.”

[JerseySean]

From what I've read, he sounds like a great kid. Interested in academics, works hard, and values defense. Another "raw talent" on offense, but something tells me he fits that prototypical Bearcat mode of tough defense, long athleticism, and high upside.

Also, it seems like nearly every BEast school is interested and/or has offered, including UConn, St. John's, Providence, Villanova, and Seton Hall. WVU has also expressed interest. Let's hope our pipeline from NYC continues...

[GoBearcats31]

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/22/nigerian-big-man-chris-obekpa-to-sign-late/

Will wait until spring (April) to sign

Obekpa, a native of Nigeria, is considering a slew of high-major programs, including UConn, Providence, Cincinnati, UCLA, St. John’s, Georgia Tech, Florida and Kentucky. Kentucky has yet to offer.

Not sure how good this guy is and if UC is actively going after him/he's interested in UC. But I'd like to add another big guy since we are losing Gates and returning Mbodj and Gaines who are unproven at this point.

[GoBearcats31]

Jeff Borzello (CBS) - Chris Obekpa, one of the best defensive players in the country, will decide in the late period, according to Our Savior New American (N.Y.) assistant coach Eric Jaklitsch. Connecticut, Cincinnati, St. John's, Florida, Kentucky, UCLA, Providence, Seton Hall, Georgia Tech and DePaul are all in the mix for the 6-foot-8 power forward.

[GoBearcats31]

Small little update: http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/12/16/chris-obekpa-planning-officials/

[Cats4Ever]

That photo of him blocking the shot looks a lot like K-Mart blocking a shot. Don't want to compare him, but my first thought of that photo was of Kenyon.

Cross your fingers.

[GoBearcats31]

Our Savior New American power forward Chris Obekpa will visit Cincinnati when the Bearcats play Louisville on February 23rd. The 6-foot-8 shot blocker is considered one of the elite big men in the Class of 2012 and would immediately give Mick Cronin a piece to plug into the middle once Yancy Gates graduates after the season.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/12/27/rothstein-files-news-and-notes-around-college-hoops-2/

#105 on Rivals (#15 center)
4-star on Scout (#15 PF, not in their top 100)
#91 on ESPN (#19 PF)

[bearcat josh]

This guy needs to be the main target right now. Go get em Mick!

[GoBearcats31]

Mick Cronin is watching him right now per a number of twitter people (Scout, Rivals guys). So is Calhoun, Lavin.

Eric Bossi, Rivals: Cincinnati, St. John's and UConn among those watching. All head coaches plus an assistant. Jim Calhoun has two assistants with him.

[ucmba2002]

really hope we get this guy..he would make an impact on interior defense next year

[coach]

it's important we do well in the big east tourney this year if we are to have any chance to land this kid out of the city. there was a buzz last year at the tourney after cronin got sanders and shaq thomas, and i suspect a strong showing at msg will be the biggest thing they can do a this point to have a chance to land him. however, it will be an uphill battle against uconn unless jc leaves.

[the_one_12]

really hope we get this guy..he would make an impact on interior defense next year

Would say we are the clubhouse leader for him HOWEVER big time schools are after him and competition is deep. Good thing is Mick is pushing HARD for him and was on him early.

[GoBearcats31]

Eric Bossi, Rivals.com: "Cincinnati in the house tailing Chris Obekpa."

[coach]

you have to strike while the iron is hot, and now they are on the national presser i'm sure they are all over him. the buzz last year in nyc at the tourney was how cronin had made inroads into nyc with kpat, sanders and shaq thomas. hopefully that carries over with this kid. i really like the look of next year's squad with thomas becoming eligible and the outside shot we can land cobekpa as well.

[bearcat josh]

this guy blocks EVERYTHING!! had 20 blocks in one game!! would love to have this kid be a bearcat

[weez1414]

Definately can fill Gates void. Gates don't block shots anyway. If UC lands Obekpa and Rubles with the guards we have coming back with Shaq Thomas Next Year will be bright. But hey I'm not done with this year yet. UC has something to prove in the BEAST.

[weez1414]

Mick was on the scene again last night checking him out. Looking at his school list I'm biased but it looks lies he is UC'sto lose. UCONN could pose a threat but they are loaded down low already.

[BearCatMarcher]

Just gotta keep climbing the ranks and gaining the publicity.

[GoBearcats31]

On DePaul's campus today, per Dave Telep

Per many sources, this is his first OFFICIAL visit

[GoBearcats31]

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/01/27/obekpa-visits-depaul-has-four-remaining/

Obekpa’s list currently includes DePaul, St. John’s, Seton Hall, UConn, West Virginia, Cincinnati, UCLA, Texas, Oregon, Florida and Kentucky. Everyone but Kentucky has offered, Jaklitsch said.
...
Obekpa may take a visit to West Virginia at some point and is considering whether to attend Saturday’s Louisville-Seton Hall game.

He also plans to visit St. John’s again, although that could be an unofficial.
...

(No mention of previously mentioned visit during U of L at UC game)

[weez1414]

We don't land this guy and UC will be hurting. Who knows if he is any good , but can't be worse than Gaines and Cheik. Sure wish UC landed Gods Gift rather than Cheik. How do you recruit someone like that and see talent?

[GoBearcats31]

Brian Snow (Scout.com): Look for uncommitted four-star center Chris Obekpa to visit St. John's this weekend

Alex Kline (The Recruit Scoop): Obekpa will take an unofficial visit to UConn this weekend, his coach confirms.

[longtimefan]

Brian Snow (Scout.com): Look for uncommitted four-star center Chris Obekpa to visit St. John's this weekend

Alex Kline (The Recruit Scoop): Obekpa will take an unofficial visit to UConn this weekend, his coach confirms.

As I understand it. He is supposed to make an official here next week and attend the Louisville game. Has anybody heard anything different?

[GoBearcats31]

As I understand it. He is supposed to make an official here next week and attend the Louisville game. Has anybody heard anything different?

That was reported weeks/a few months ago. Not sure if that's still the case. (I don't know, not saying it definitely isn't true)

[bearcats5]

Alex Kline (The Recruit Scoop): Obekpa will take an unofficial visit to UConn this weekend, his coach confirms.

Kevin McNamara (Providence Journal): Providence has shot-blocker deluxe Chris Obekpa at the Georgetown game tonight.

Sounds like Obekpa made it to two games on Saturday, both double digit losses for the schools he was visiting.

[bearcat josh]

He will be on campus for the Loserville game. Hope its a great atmosphere. It would be cool if the crowd chanted his name. Would love to have this kid be a bearcat.

[bearcats5]

Just some confirmation about the upcoming visit:

Adam Zagoria (@AdamZagoria): "Chris Obekpa, 6-9 shot-blocking big man from Our Savior, will visit Cincinnati Wed-Fri for the Louisville game, Eric Jaklitsch tells @SNYtv"

[Pruke]

See if we can get a chant going at the game - we need this kid.

[bcbearcat12]

his 2012 highlight reel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mVbqiDIoY

He'll be a tough get. Hope Mick can pull it off. He couldn't be in town at a better time.

[Lobot]

Highlight are to be taken with a grain of salt but, he might farther along than Kmart at this age.

[gocats13]

See if we can get a chant going at the game - we need this kid.

Im passing out about 400 sheets throughout the student section that explain who he is and urge the students to chant his name during time outs and other stoppages. Hopefully the students participate!

[bcbearcat12]

Im passing out about 400 sheets throughout the student section that explain who he is and urge the students to chant his name during time outs and other stoppages. Hopefully the students participate!

YES!!! try to get some behind both baskets........"Chris-O-bek-pa"

when do you think is the best time to bust it out?? When play resumes after the first tv timeout? Halftime?

[CincyBeerCo]

Im passing out about 400 sheets throughout the student section that explain who he is and urge the students to chant his name during time outs and other stoppages. Hopefully the students participate!

I have no idea, but can anyone confirm that this is appropriate/legal? If yes, I LOVE it! Just want to make sure we don't do anything to jeopardize the recruiting process. Thanks for taking the initiative, sir.

[GoBearcats31]

I have no idea, but can anyone confirm that this is appropriate/legal? If yes, I LOVE it! Just want to make sure we don't do anything to jeopardize the recruiting process. Thanks for taking the initiative, sir.

Technically it's probably not appropriate, but students at schools do it anyways.

[bcbearcat12]

Technically it's probably not appropriate, but students at schools do it anyways.

You're right everyone does it. College fans are anything but appropriate. Jeremey Lin said he was heckled with racial slurs at almost every away game in college. And he played in the Ivy League!!

It is our duty as fans to help recruit when we have a chance. Any recruits in the building tonight are in for a treat.

[gocats13]

As far as appropriateness goes I don't intend anything to be out of line I just want Obekpa to feel wanted at UC.

I've checked and made sure its not a violation or anything like that.

[Panamacat]

Good game for the recruits. For those at the game I'm curious how the Obekpa chant went. Were they soaking it up?

[BearCatMarcher]

As far as appropriateness goes I don't intend anything to be out of line I just want Obekpa to feel wanted at UC.

I've checked and made sure its not a violation or anything like that.

I'm pretty sure the TV guys don't like it when the fans chant "Bull****" but I'm sure the students do it anyway :)

[boxout]

I saw him on TV.. He looked to be having a good time! Great game and let's close the deal on this kid...

[bcbearcat12]

Props to whoever made the Obekpa big head.

[GoBearcats31]

Chad Brendel, BCL (via Twitter):

Chris Obekpa lists Cincinnati, Providence, UCLA, St John's and Oregon. Decision in April. No future visits planned after returning from UC.

Forgot to add UConn on the list for Chris Obekpa. Last week he took unofficial visits to UConn and Providence.

[Thegreatone]

He plays a lot like a more disciplined Justin Jackson IMO. Little stronger, maybe a little behind Justins offensive game.

[Lobot]

Obekpa stated that he his not signing until April regardless of school choice.

[GoBearcats31]

Obekpa stated that he his not signing until April regardless of school choice.

Spring signing period is not until April anyway... ;)

[BearCatMarcher]

That's a lot on the list :|

[Lobot]

Spring signing period is not until April anyway... ;)

Hah. should have said commit not sign.

[GoBearcats31]

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/01/noel-obekpa-harrison-twins-chosen-for-all-star-game/


Undeclared seniors Nerlens Noel and Chris Obekpa and uncommitted juniors and Andrew and Aaron Harrison are among the 40 players chosen to play in The All-American Championship.

The game will be held in conjunction with the Final Four on Sunday, April 1, at Lakefront Arena in New Orleans. The first game of the doubleheader will match the West vs. the East, followed by the North vs. the South.

Tip-off is 3 p.m. EST. Each game will be aired live on ESPN3 with a rebroadcast of the doubleheader beginning at 9 p.m. EST on ESPNU.

[weez1414]

I say we just land Charles Mitchell and Obekpa. Go big or go home. Bearcats would have depth everywhere with respectable talent.

[bearcats5]

Oregon has offered per their 247 sports source:

Matt Prehm ‏ @Prehmmr: Dana Altman and Tony Stubblefield from Oregon visit to Chris Obekpa

Matt Prehm ‏ @Prehmmr: Oregon has offered Chris Obekpa

[ucfan34]

Chad Brendel, BCL (via Twitter):[I]Chris Obekpa lists Cincinnati, Providence, UCLA, St John's and Oregon. Decision in April. No future visits planned after returning from UC.

Oregon has offered per their 247 sports source

Anyone know if Providence, UCLA, or St Johns have offered?

Also, UC, Prov, & St J will all be playing in the NE, so makes sense that he's close to home. Anyone know a particular reason why UCLA & Oregon made the short list?

[bearcats5]

Anyone know if Providence, UCLA, or St Johns have offered?

Also, UC, Prov, & St J will all be playing in the NE, so makes sense that he's close to home. Anyone know a particular reason why UCLA & Oregon made the short list?

According to most articles Providence and St. John's have offered. Not entirely sure on if UCLA has yet or not. I haven't seen him mention why he's considering the two Pac-12 schools, but all of his recent visits have been to the Big East schools. Don't think he has any more visits lined up at this point, so don't know if he's going to try to make it out west before April or not.

[ucfan34]

Thanks for the info. I don't follow recruiting much, but I've heard quite a bit about this guy. First player I've really got my fingers crossed for.

Maybe it's just me being a homer, but I gotta think UC has the best shot of the Big East teams.

Based on the fact he's considering the west coast, it wouldn't seem like he's sold on staying close to home. UC has had more success in the recent past than St J or Prov, and he'd still get to play games close to home.

Just spit balling, but the logic works out to me. :D

[bearcats011]

The other day, he tweeted something about how he was really hoping the cats beat the orange.. That's gotta be a good sign!

[ZCat]

The other day, he tweeted something about how he was really hoping the cats beat the orange.. That's gotta be a good sign!

That is cool! You gotta love the information age.
As far as Oregon, isn't their asst coach the same Tony Stubblefield from UC. He likely already knows him. I am thinking we go to the E-8 and close this deal. 10 hours til tip. Let's do this.

[Rock]

What is this kid waiting on?:confused:

[KY Bearcat]

Aren't we the only team that has offered him who is left in the tournament??? We've had one he!! of a postseason...this has got to be helping!

[GoBearcats31]

Evan Daniels (Scout.com): Chris Obekpa will visit St. Johns this weekend, per his HS coach Eric Jaklitsch

[Antonio]

I'm getting the strong sense this kid doesn't want to come here. If he did I think he'd be in the fold already. I know he wants to wait to sign, but I just don't think he's sold on Cincy.

I have no insider information. I just think lineup projections that have him in the fold already are like the ones we all contributed years ago with Scotty Hopson as our starting 2/3.

And, as others have pointed out, he's a project on offense. Personally even though I want Obekpa to come here badly, I hope the coaches aren't putting all their eggs in this basket. Having not seen them tied to any other big men recently, I get the feeling they are, and this is a big reason why they waited to spring to fill this scholly. I just hope they don't end up scrambling when he picks St. John's or similar because he wanted to stay home all along.

Long story short, I'm not seeing a frontline backup plan, and I'm feeling like there should be one (maybe with our recent success an even better one?).

[longtimefan]

I'm getting the strong sense this kid doesn't want to come here. If he did I think he'd be in the fold already. I know he wants to wait to sign, but I just don't think he's sold on Cincy.

I have no insider information. I just think lineup projections that have him in the fold already are like the ones we all contributed years ago with Scotty Hopson as our starting 2/3.

And, as others have pointed out, he's a project on offense. Personally even though I want Obekpa to come here badly, I hope the coaches aren't putting all their eggs in this basket. Having not seen them tied to any other big men recently, I get the feeling they are, and this is a big reason why they waited to spring to fill this scholly. I just hope they don't end up scrambling when he picks St. John's or similar because he wanted to stay home all along.

Long story short, I'm not seeing a frontline backup plan, and I'm feeling like there should be one (maybe with our recent success an even better one?).

I don't get the point of this post. On the one hand you say you have no insider information to go on, but you also have a "strong sense" that he does not want to come here. I guess I just don't understand a strong sense based on little to no information; a sense maybe, but not a strong one. The only people who really know where we stand are not allowed to talk about it.

Right now, with no concrete information to go on, we will just have to trust Mick and the staff to do what is right for the program; they certainly have so far. I will say one thing based on the continuous progress I have seen from the Bearcats under Mick so far. I think there is a chance that if Mr. Obekpa does choose to play here, Mick will get him in the final four. Is it a sure thing? Of course not. But if the arrow keeps pointing in the right direction, that is where we are headed.

[Antonio]

I don't get the point of this post. On the one hand you say you have no insider information to go on, but you also have a "strong sense" that he does not want to come here. I guess I just don't understand a strong sense based on little to no information; a sense maybe, but not a strong one. The only people who really know where we stand are not allowed to talk about it.

I agree. People on this board are posting 2012 lineups as though he is already here even though the kid's list is several schools long and he's seemingly enjoying taking several visits. They are choosing to put him in the lineup already in spite of that. I am choosing not to interpret the smoke signals that way. No one honestly knows where we stand. I'm just saying if it's ok for people to get their hopes up then it is ok for people to get their hopes down, especially in light of the fact that I certainly don't think there's any reason to think we are even close to the favorites.

[anbuc88]

I agree. People on this board are posting 2012 lineups as though he is already here even though the kid's list is several schools long and he's seemingly enjoying taking several visits. They are choosing to put him in the lineup already in spite of that. I am choosing not to interpret the smoke signals that way. No one honestly knows where we stand. I'm just saying if it's ok for people to get their hopes up then it is ok for people to get their hopes down, especially in light of the fact that I certainly don't think there's any reason to think we are even close to the favorites.

I don't think any of the lineup projections for next year have Obekpa as clearly here. They all have either a ?-mark or a disclaimer of 'hopefully' next to his name. I don't hink there is anything wrong with that. I think if he leaves SJU this weekend without committing, then we have a great chance of landing him. Even the SJU board has us as his likely destination.

As an aside, Coach Davis mentioned on his postgame comments after the OSU loss that we have a great recruiting class coming in, and the no head coach works harder than Mick at recruiting. They may have heard from the Obekpa camp already, and the SJU visit was something that had been planned by him for some time now. As a recruit, I would try and use all my offical visits, as it is a free trip and good food. Davis also said that the future is very bright for the Cats, as we know that Mick can coach, and that the success in the tournament should only help recruiting.

[Kindog202]

From my understanding of the situation, Obekpa is down to UC and St.John's and he will most likely wait until around signing day to make the call...

[Helicopter]

Maybe its just my head (checking this thread every other day). But I think Obekpa is going to be a 3 year star in this league. Hopefully its in a BCAT uni.

[weez1414]

The only thing that sucks now is that St. Johns just signed Obekpa's Shooting guard teamate from high school. They claim thers no package deal though and say obekpas is his own man and decision maker. I think he's ours to lose. I also wonder if UC is going to drop someone, Because they say UC is recruiting the #1 JUCO shooting guard also, which we wouldn't have a scholly for if we get a big man. Who knows I am just ready for good news to marinate on till tipoff next year.

[B-Team]

Because they say UC is recruiting the #1 JUCO shooting guard also, which we wouldn't have a scholly for if we get a big man.

What's the name of this #1 JUCO guard that UC is apparently recruiting? I don't follow recruiting all that closely, but when I saw your post, I was curious to read up on some information on this player that UC is currently going after.

[cpawstoney]

What's the name of this #1 JUCO guard that UC is apparently recruiting? I don't follow recruiting all that closely, but when I saw your post, I was curious to read up on some information on this player that UC is currently going after.

Trency Jackson?

The State of the Cincinnati Bearcats’ 2012 Basketball Recruiting Class
While it’s not easy it can be done and specifically by snagging a commitment from Chris Obekpa. All signs point to an Obekpa-Cincy signing in April. The power forward would get significant playing time as a true freshman, really got a sense of the fanaticism of the Bearcat fanbase during his visit last month, the Cincinnati basketball program is clearly rebuilt, and Mick can point to Yancy Gates as an example of him coaching up a big man into the NBA. Yes, Yancy will probably get drafted. But you never really know with recruits and it would definitely sting if Obekpa signed elsewhere as there aren’t many quality big men left in the 2012 class.
http://bearcatsnation.com/2012/03/26/the-state-of-the-cincinnati-bearcats-2012-basketball-recruiting-class/#more-3374

[juckerrules]

What is this kid waiting on?:confused:
If he's waiting, it's because he wants a different place, we're his last ditch fallback plan, not a high priority choice.

[GoBearcats31]

If he's waiting, it's because he wants a different place, we're his last ditch fallback plan, not a high priority choice.

Or he just wants to make sure he makes the best decision for him and doesn't jump the gun. UC wasn't his first visit, so oh well if it wasn't his last. There are many recruits that see all their visits through, but Obekpa isn't doing tons of interviews and is playing it more close to the vest so we haven't heard this from him. I'm sure if you could take five paid for official visits you would consider taking all five and not choosing a school after just one, two or three.

That being said, yes, he might not end up at UC. We'll find out eventually. But it does seem like St. John's is going to be tough to beat.

[GoBearcats31]

Sounds like Obekpa will be visiting Oregon, then will make a decision.

[GoBearcats31]

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/obekpa-visits-johnnies-oregon-up-next/

[DimitriusChristedes]

unoficially visited Uconn. Well, I know where Obekpa is going.

[blackattack]

unoficially visited Uconn. Well, I know where Obekpa is going.

Yep, if Calhoun is involved that's bad news for us. Hope Mick can hold on to this guy.

[Pruke]

Yep, if Calhoun is involved that's bad news for us. Hope Mick can hold on to this guy.

He's going to be ticked, when Calhoun is no longer coaching the team and he's sitting on their bench...

[ACAirborne]

He's going to be ticked, when Calhoun is no longer coaching the team and he's sitting on their bench...

and not going to the NCAA tourney because of the postseason ban :)

[OCASCM07]

I still think St. John's is our biggest threat for this kid. They need a big man substantially more than we do in the middle and I think Lavin is promising him that he'll start alongside God's Gift. Whereas Mick cannot promise him a starting role with the depth we have down low.

[BigDaddyCornHusker]

unoficially visited Uconn. Well, I know where Obekpa is going.

With Obekpa coming to visit and Alex Oriakhi transferring out, it makes me wonder if Oriakhi was encouraged to look elsewhere. His stats were down from his freshman year. It could be that Calhoun did not like what he was seeing in Oriakhi. And now he can welcome Obekpa with an open spot.

[Pruke]

and not going to the NCAA tourney because of the postseason ban :)

And boom goes the dynamite :)

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Yikes-- he's visiting EVERYWHERE

[Kindog202]

With Obekpa coming to visit and Alex Oriakhi transferring out, it makes me wonder if Oriakhi was encouraged to look elsewhere. His stats were down from his freshman year. It could be that Calhoun did not like what he was seeing in Oriakhi. And now he can welcome Obekpa with an open spot.

Oriakhi will be a senior next year. Right now, UCONN is banned from the NCAA next year due to their low APR score. He is allowed to seek a transfer without sitting a year because the post season ban will occur and be in effect for the remainder of his college career. He was also not happy with the situation there as well. UCONN is on a downward spiral and there is some pretty strong belief that Calhoun will not be back. UC and St. John's are the leaders at this time for Obekpa and seem to be pretty far out in the lead but the visit he has scheduled to Oregon gives them a puncher's chance as well...

[GoBearcats31]

Jon Rothstein: Have talked to several D-1 coaches who've compared 2012 big man Chris Obekpa to former LSU PF Tyrus Thomas.....

[DimitriusChristedes]

Jon Rothstein: Have talked to several D-1 coaches who've compared 2012 big man Chris Obekpa to former LSU PF Tyrus Thomas.....

Hrm. Don't know if I see that. Thomas was just an athlete, a jump out of the gym guy. Drafted far, far too early. I don't recall him being a human eraser. Blocks a shot a game in the pros.

[weez1414]

Well if this guy is slipping away. Go get the shooters that are left or the Hernandez guy I think thats his name he is 6'8" and can score I believe. I just don't wan't UC do be caught with there pants down if UC doesn't grab him.

[Rock]

I am starting to believe this guy is slipping away! I have absolutely no idea why we are waiting just to be disappointed once again.

[Pruke]

I sincerely believe Mick is not just hanging out waiting for this guy to sign. Even a marginal recruiter would not put all his eggs in one basket, or two for that matter. Things will work out.

[Kindog202]

Obekpa is the number 1 target but if things don't work out, there are other solid backup plans that will be put in play...

[weez1414]

Right I believe still, but If you wait and everyone worth a damn is signed, GOOD LUCK.
You can't sign what isn't there.

[Bearcat_NTS]

I am starting to believe this guy is slipping away! I have absolutely no idea why we are waiting just to be disappointed once again.

Based on what? Obekpa stated early in his recruitment that he was waiting until Signing day (in mid April) to decide. Where do people come up with this stuff?

[Binturong05]

Based on what? Obekpa stated early in his recruitment that he was waiting until Signing day (in mid April) to decide. Where do people come up with this stuff?

It's in their blood as Cincinnati fans. They tend to let negative emotion get the best (or worst) of them and by nature they view the world with a pessimistic slant as it relates to their teams. Therein is the source of the bandwagon nature of Cincinnati fans and why we have difficulty building consistency in Cincinnati. They are almost always one foot in and one foot out ever reserving the right to say "I told you so" if things don't work out exactly as hoped and they will rarely make a long-term pledge to support the program year in and year out no matter the troughs that invariably manifest among the peaks. In short, they are easily derailed in their conviction and epitomize the fairweather fan.

Can't say they don't have reason for it - the Bengals have been lacluster for years, Griffey Jr was a major disappointment, Kenyon's broken leg shattered dreams of a national championship, Carson Palmer's mutilated knee squashed all hope, and Huggs' dismissal at the cusp of one of the best recruiting classes in history all lead many a Cincinnati sports fan to doubt everything before them.

[OCASCM07]

Having moved away from my hometown and lived in Tampa with a lot of South Florida, Florida, Florida State, Miami, and FSU fans as well as Atlanta with a lot of Georgia, Georgia Tech, Alabama, and Auburn fans as well as Alamogordo with a lot of Arizona, Texas, Texas Tech, and SMU fans and rocking a C Paw hat or T-shirt everyday to work or out on the weekends as well as the front license plate on my car I have to back him and say that Cincinnati fans are very fairweather compared to A LOT of college sports fans in this country. I don't know if it's because we've put all our eggs in one basket and gotten screwed on so many occassions (i.e. Griffey Jr and Kenyon) or if it's because we have an attitude to expect that the worst will happen for us, or maybe the fans just aren't as knowledgable as they should be to be chimin in on a situation but it truly is present in the back of the minds of a lot of fans that grew up in the Tri-State. As a prime example of this look back at posts from earlier this year after the Presbyterian, Marshall, and Xavier losses. It was pretty pathetic of our fan base what was said after those losses.

[Carin's Dad]

As a prime example of this look back at posts from earlier this year after the Presbyterian, Marshall, and Xavier losses. It was pretty pathetic of our fan base what was said after those losses.Fan is short for fanatic, not fantastic. I'll take an impassioned complainer (after bad play) who frequents this site over alumni who just don't care enough to throw a few bucks the athletic department's way.

I think that the fact that you care enough to seek out and join this forum buys you enough fandom to be allowed to complain, even bitterly complain and say things you'll want to take back later.

[KY Bearcat]

Fan is short for fanatic, not fantastic. I'll take an impassioned complainer (after bad play) who frequents this site over alumni who just don't care enough to throw a few bucks the athletic department's way.

I think that the fact that you care enough to seek out and join this forum buys you enough fandom to be allowed to complain, even bitterly complain and say things you'll want to take back later.

I absolutely could not agree more with this post...More often than not, those "complaining" have an extremely emotional tie to the program and simply can't bare to see the Bearcats lose or play poorly etc...

Obviously, I'm agreeing with you because I consider myself to be this type of fan...When I'm not at the Shoe for a game, I'm usually watching the game by myself in the basement...when you're emotions are running high, it's very easy to lose perspective...this goes for sports in general. I have a hard time believing that ANYONE who posts here daily/regularly is anything but a Cincinnati Bearcats fan or at least has a high interest in the program and University...maybe I'm naive.

[bearcats5]

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/01/noel-obekpa-harrison-twins-chosen-for-all-star-game/


Undeclared seniors Nerlens Noel and Chris Obekpa and uncommitted juniors and Andrew and Aaron Harrison are among the 40 players chosen to play in The All-American Championship.

The game will be held in conjunction with the Final Four on Sunday, April 1, at Lakefront Arena in New Orleans. The first game of the doubleheader will match the West vs. the East, followed by the North vs. the South.

Tip-off is 3 p.m. EST. Each game will be aired live on ESPN3 with a rebroadcast of the doubleheader beginning at 9 p.m. EST on ESPNU.

Reminder for anyone who is interested, that this game is tomorrow. ESPN3 lists the North-South game at 3 p.m., but the event's website says that the East-West game is at that time (Obekpa is on the East team)--I'm assuming the latter is correct.

All-American Championship website: http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/index_main.htm

Rosters: http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/aac_rosters12.pdf

[Binturong05]

I absolutely could not agree more with this post...More often than not, those "complaining" have an extremely emotional tie to the program and simply can't bare to see the Bearcats lose or play poorly etc...

Obviously, I'm agreeing with you because I consider myself to be this type of fan...When I'm not at the Shoe for a game, I'm usually watching the game by myself in the basement...when you're emotions are running high, it's very easy to lose perspective...this goes for sports in general. I have a hard time believing that ANYONE who posts here daily/regularly is anything but a Cincinnati Bearcats fan or at least has a high interest in the program and University...maybe I'm naive.

I consider myself a committed fan though only the most dire of losses are capable of ruining my day or week (e.g. season ending loss to Ohio State). I guess I'm an optimist in that a few regular season losses doesn't wreck my world. Before anyone considers me a bandwagon fan with only a loose affiliation to the program and the university let it be known I do make annual donations to the university and UCATS and will be making a dedicated contribution to the basketball program this year in addition to the regular schedule of giving. After all, Mick and the gang have earned my support and have done it with a top-10 academic performance to boot - something Huggins was never able to do rarely graduating no more than 40% of his players.

[GoBearcats31]

Reminder for anyone who is interested, that this game is tomorrow. ESPN3 lists the North-South game at 3 p.m., but the event's website says that the East-West game is at that time (Obekpa is on the East team)--I'm assuming the latter is correct.

All-American Championship website: http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/index_main.htm

Rosters: http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/aac_rosters12.pdf


It's on ESPN3 live, but reaired on ESPNU later. I believe 9:00 p.m.

[weez1414]

How about UC lands Robert Upshaw who is released from Kansas State now that the coach is gone. He is a 7 footer, 4 star center. Ranked #43 by rivals. Prolly a better option than Obekpa. Just Smoking the good stuff today dreaming. If UC got him they would have lots of talent. Cuz I sill think Mick is getting a shooter G-13 classified Cronin type stuff.

[longtimefan]

How about UC lands Robert Upshaw who is released from Kansas State now that the coach is gone. He is a 7 footer, 4 star center. Ranked #43 by rivals. Prolly a better option than Obekpa. Just Smoking the good stuff today dreaming. If UC got him they would have lots of talent. Cuz I sill think Mick is getting a shooter G-13 classified Cronin type stuff.

I still think Mick wants to play a 94ft game. He could not really do that with Yancy in the middle. In that case Obekpa makes much more sense than Upshaw. I would much rather have Obekpa.

[Binturong05]

How about UC lands Robert Upshaw who is released from Kansas State now that the coach is gone. He is a 7 footer, 4 star center. Ranked #43 by rivals. Prolly a better option than Obekpa. Just Smoking the good stuff today dreaming. If UC got him they would have lots of talent. Cuz I sill think Mick is getting a shooter G-13 classified Cronin type stuff.

don't mean to hijack the thread but what is Frank Martin thinking? Is S Carolina really a better gig than K-State? Is there something more to this story that I don't know about?

[Cpaw]

don't mean to hijack the thread but what is Frank Martin thinking? Is S Carolina really a better gig than K-State? Is there something more to this story that I don't know about?

He and the K-State AD NEVER got along.......

[GoBearcats31]

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/04/lavin-headed-to-europe-to-recruit/#more-70824

St. John’s target Chris Obekpa is expected to visit Oregon having already visited DePaul, Cincinnati, St. John’s, Providence and UConn, but no date has been finalized.

Sources said Obekpa may end up choosing between Cincinnati and St. John’s.

[MilfordCat92]

Finally an update. Been checking 3x a day for weeks with bated breath. Hope he becomes a bearcat real soon. Anyone else have any more insight into his recruitment?

[jplog]

You would think our odds would be pretty good if it's down to St. J's and UC. The situation at St. J's is anything but stable with Lavin's health issues and the way they played this year makes us look pretty attractive.

[OCASCM07]

You would think our odds would be pretty good if it's down to St. J's and UC. The situation at St. J's is anything but stable with Lavin's health issues and the way they played this year makes us look pretty attractive.

There's one thing no one wants to think about when they call us more attractive. We can't give him immediate playing time as a starter. Lavin is probably offering him that opposite God's Gift. It all comes down to whether Obekpa considers himself willing to start or not.

[Bearcat Otto]

Is signing day this Wednesday?

[Cpaw]

Is signing day this Wednesday?

Yes it is!

[Binturong05]

There's one thing no one wants to think about when they call us more attractive. We can't give him immediate playing time as a starter. Lavin is probably offering him that opposite God's Gift. It all comes down to whether Obekpa considers himself willing to start or not.

Depends where he's slotted to play - center or forward. Right now who is ahead of him at center, Gaines? Kelvin Gaines isn't a returning starter therefore what Mick can promise Obekpa is an equal opportunity to compete for the starting role. If Obekpa is slotted as a forward the only player with significant minutes is JJ although I think everyone is expecting to see Shaq Thomas on the floor this coming season.

[GoBearcats31]

Is signing day this Wednesday?

This isn't like football where the majority sign on the first day. The spring signing period is longer than the Fall/November one, if I'm not mistaken. While verbals might sign, some have not made their decisions and Mick has a tendency to get guys after the first day.

[DMoney_70]

For what it's worth, Lance just posted a tweet from Jon Rothstein of CBS who was answering a question from someone asking if there were any updates on Obekpa and he tweeted "Cincinnati going to be tough to beat"

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Aaron (Cincinnati)
Who is in the lead for Chris Obekpa? Any idea when he will decide?
Paul Biancardi (3:54 PM)
Good news for you. Cincy is a the top of his list with Providence, DePaul and St. John's.

[ucat4]

Is there a "like" button on here for these last two posts! Obekpa would look awesome in a Bearcats uni!

[GoBearcats31]

Obekpa moves from 105 to #58 on new (final) Rivals 2012 rankings

[GoBearcats31]

Adam Zagoria: 6-9 Chris Obekpa will visit Oregon April 22-24. Has visited DePaul, SJU, Providence, UConn & Cincy


The buzz online seemed to be Obekpa is maybe a UC lean (over St. John's). I've been hearing he won't sign til May. Hopefully he doesn't make too many other visits.

[bearcatdoggie]

Adam Zagoria: 6-9 Chris Obekpa will visit Oregon April 22-24. Has visited DePaul, SJU, Providence, UConn & Cincy


The buzz online seemed to be Obekpa is maybe a UC lean (over St. John's). I've been hearing he won't sign til May. Hopefully he doesn't make too many other visits.

I hope he's a Bearcat, but this delay and a trip to Oregon makes me wonder how committed he'll be, to anyone. At some point you have to make a decision on where you want to go. Of course it's easy for me to think this, it's not my future. I just think if it were me I would have picked a school by now.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

I hope he's a Bearcat, but this delay and a trip to Oregon makes me wonder how committed he'll be, to anyone. At some point you have to make a decision on where you want to go. Of course it's easy for me to think this, it's not my future. I just think if it were me I would have picked a school by now.

I agree. The longer it drags out, the more pessimistic I am. Not to mention that it also makes it more difficult to sign someone else if he chooses to go elsewhere. Any other possible recruit isn't going to wait around forever.

[blackattack]

I agree. The longer it drags out, the more pessimistic I am. Not to mention that it also makes it more difficult to sign someone else if he chooses to go elsewhere. Any other possible recruit isn't going to wait around forever.

Yep, agree. Not to mention the fact that this kid has 2 of the biggest snake oil salesmen breathing down his neck (Jim Calhoun and Steve Lavin)....they don't play by the rules. If Mick pulls this one off then he's Houdini.

[loshow22]

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/57867/vcu-cincy-among-new-top-25-snubs

towards the bottom it is mentioned that Obekpa is a Providence lean...according to the end all be all scouts

Not trying to rile anyone up, just found it interesting.

[jplog]

Who would ever be a "Providence lean"? I'm not worried about Providence in this whole thing. As mentioned already, it's troubling thinking about who will still be around by the time this kid decides. I trust in Mick though and I'm sure he's got all bases covered.

[jbreeds1]

Who would ever be a "Providence lean"? I'm not worried about Providence in this whole thing. As mentioned already, it's troubling thinking about who will still be around by the time this kid decides. I trust in Mick though and I'm sure he's got all bases covered.

Last time I checked Providence has some really nice recruits coming in this year. Don't know what's up with that, but Ed Cooley has some real talent taking an interest in his program so far.

[OCASCM07]

As much as we hate to think about it Providence does have the #6 class next year without Obekpa and they don't yet have a solid big man. Cooley could probably sell him on being the missing link to Providence becoming a National Powerhouse in the next 4 years.

[Kindog202]

As much as we hate to think about it Providence does have the #6 class next year without Obekpa and they don't yet have a solid big man. Cooley could probably sell him on being the missing link to Providence becoming a National Powerhouse in the next 4 years.

Providence will never be a national powerhouse. They got lucky by having 2 high level prospects (Dunn and Ledo) in their backyard. Their best shot at doing anything nationally will be next year. Assuming Henton doesn't take a step back next year, he will leave for the draft and I can see at least Ledo and quite possibly Dunn being one and done. I think they finish at best Top 7 in the Big East next year...

[cmm27]

If they have three NBA level players on their roster next year then they will be much higher than 7th in the Big East...

[Kindog202]

If they have three NBA level players on their roster next year then they will be much higher than 7th in the Big East...

UCONN had 3 maybe 4 last year and where did they finish in the Big East?

[jbreeds1]

UCONN had 3 maybe 4 last year and where did they finish in the Big East?

Just a tangent thought... Where do you see UCONN finishing next year? Dead last? Who's coming back? Napier and who else?

[bearcats5]

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/57867/vcu-cincy-among-new-top-25-snubs

towards the bottom it is mentioned that Obekpa is a Providence lean...according to the end all be all scouts

Not trying to rile anyone up, just found it interesting.

I think ESPN is calling him a Providence lean because of the ESPN Insider prediction thing they did Tuesday. 4 of the 7 analysts picked him going to Providence, 2 to UC, and 1 to St. John's. For what it's worth, Dave Telep, the main recruiting analyst for ESPN, picked UC. In the same predictions, 5 of the 7 picked Ryan Taylor going to UC, 1 to Dayton, and Telep picking JUCO. I'd weigh Telep's opinion more heavily when it comes to recruiting than the other six analysts that ESPN had predicting.

[Kindog202]

The Taylor thing may not get figured out into the summer

[Kindog202]

Just a tangent thought... Where do you see UCONN finishing next year? Dead last? Who's coming back? Napier and who else?

No idea really haven't started to look at that yet will probably start to form opinions once the signing period ends and we know who is coming and who is going.
**
Way early prediction, I really don't see them finishing any differently than the finished this year. They finished 9th this year, I will say 9-12 for next year right now. There still is talent on that team, they didn't lose any seniors of note and so far have lost only Drummond and Lamb to the draft. Napier and Boatright will be a solid backcourt and there is skill with Daniel and Smith. They also signed Omar Calhoun who is supposed to be a really good shooter. What really killed them this year is the chemistry and the issues with Calhoun. With their postseason ban for next year, their season ends after game 30/31, no Big East, no NCAA/NIT/CBI/CBIT etc. How will that affect them during the season? Will Calhoun even be back? That program is a mess right now and it will be interesting to watch them over the course of next year.

[jbreeds1]

No idea really haven't started to look at that yet will probably start to form opinions once the signing period ends and we know who is coming and who is going.
**
Way early prediction, I really don't see them finishing any differently than the finished this year. They finished 9th this year, I will say 9-12 for next year right now. There still is talent on that team, they didn't lose any seniors of note and so far have lost only Drummond and Lamb to the draft. Napier and Boatright will be a solid backcourt and there is skill with Daniel and Smith. They also signed Omar Calhoun who is supposed to be a really good shooter. What really killed them this year is the chemistry and the issues with Calhoun. With their postseason ban for next year, their season ends after game 30/31, no Big East, no NCAA/NIT/CBI/CBIT etc. How will that affect them during the season? Will Calhoun even be back? That program is a mess right now and it will be interesting to watch them over the course of next year.

Oriakhi too. That program is in complete shambles right now. Have no idea why any recruit would want to go there.

[cmm27]

Oriakhi too. That program is in complete shambles right now. Have no idea why any recruit would want to go there.

Because you don't have to show up to class? You can violate NCAA sanctions repeatedly and never have to worry about it? You can receive illegal benefits for an athlete? Those are all reasons. I'm just sayin'.

[Binturong05]

Because you don't have to show up to class? You can violate NCAA sanctions repeatedly and never have to worry about it? You can receive illegal benefits for an athlete? Those are all reasons. I'm just sayin'.

Yep, same reason USC and Ohio State and just about every SEC school has been a national football power in the BCS era. I know it's a shock but not every 17, 18 , or 19 year old athlete chooses their college destination based on academics. Things like exposure to professional athletes (e.g. Urban Meyer recruiting tactic as accused by Bret Bielema), cash payment, access to cars, and in general a double standard for elite athletes sadly often sways top talent to choose programs where winning is prioroty over ethics and academic integrity.

[jbreeds1]

I wish this guy would just commit already. Getting pretty anxious about it.

[cpawstoney]

See update for Chris Obekpa under Basketball Recruiting forum.
http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?p=208111#post208111

[cpawstoney]

Probably won't commint till end of April because of Oregon visit.

Center Chris Obekpa to visit Oregon

Shot blocker extraordinaire Obekpa is currently the top rated center nationally who has yet to make a commitment. He will visit Oregon April 22-24th. He has already visited DePaul, Cincinnati and St. John’s and has taken unofficial visits to Providence and UConn.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/ducks/2012/04/power_forwardcenterchris_obekp.html

[cpawstoney]

Here's another article confirming Oregon visit:

DePaul making push on recruiting trail for Our Savior shot-blocker Chris Obekpa

Obekpa is being courted by schools that include Connecticut, St. John’s, Cincinnati, Providence, and Oregon, and a source tells NBCSports.com that DePaul is making a strong push for the Nigerian native.

Adam Zagoria of SNY.tv reports that Obekpa has taken official visits to St. John’s, Cincinnati, and DePaul, and unofficials to Connecticut and Providence and will take a visit to Oregon April 22-24.

Felix Balamou, a teammate of Obekpa’s at Our Savior New American, is committed to St. John’s.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/15/depaul-making-push-on-recruiting-trail-for-our-savior-shotblocker-chris-obekpa/

[GoBearcats31]

Obekpa moves from 105 to #58 on new (final) Rivals 2012 rankings

#63 on scout

[MilfordCat92]

I hope he doesn't pop up on Kentuckys radar now that they will have 5 openings next year.

[Pruke]

This is like 40 year old virgin movie - takes too long to just end

[BearCatMarcher]

This is like 40 year old virgin movie - takes too long to just end

It's making me so nervous I could "Pruke"

Teehee

[jplog]

I hope he doesn't pop up on Kentuckys radar now that they will have 5 openings next year.

You know I never thought about that but it's a great point. Was Cal preparing for five departures, I doubt it. This really could be a problem.

[Kindog202]

You know I never thought about that but it's a great point. Was Cal preparing for five departures, I doubt it. This really could be a problem.

I highly doubt they come after Obekpa. They have Noel, Willie Cauley - a top 40 player and are in on Anthony Bennett. Plus they have Wiltger coming back. I think they are pretty set at the PF/C position

[bearcats5]

I highly doubt they come after Obekpa. They have Noel, Willie Cauley - a top 40 player and are in on Anthony Bennett. Plus they have Wiltger coming back. I think they are pretty set at the PF/C position

I agree. Was hoping for Noel to choose UK, not just because it would keep him out of the Big East, but because they would get their main PF/C target. They were apparently interested, to some degree, in Obekpa earlier this year (him or his coach mentioned them in a few interviews as interested, but no offer), so I didn't want to see them coming back into the picture if they missed out on both Noel and Bennett.

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Jon Rothstein (CBS Sports) tweets that UC is still the front-runner.

[MilfordCat92]

Jon Rothstein (CBS Sports) tweets that UC is still the front-runner.

Hope it remains that way after his Oregon visit.

[GoBearcats31]

AAU season started tonight, here are some relevant tweets

RT @DaveTelep: We've got a Chris Obekpa sighting with New Heights. Must be trying to break AAU shot block record.

RT @ebosshoops New Heights is spanking the Louisville Magic right now. Mick Cronin on hand watching Obekpa...

[OCASCM07]

AAU season started tonight, here are some relevant tweets

RT @DaveTelep: We've got a Chris Obekpa sighting with New Heights. Must be trying to break AAU shot block record.

RT @ebosshoops New Heights is spanking the Louisville Magic right now. Mick Cronin on hand watching Obekpa...

Hopefully Mick was the only potential head coach there last night. Shows how much he values having Obekpa sign here.

[coach]

For those who criticize cronin's recruiting, i do not think you can question his tenacity. The good thing for us/uc, is that obekpa probably visited for the best crowd we had at the shoe this year for louisville.

[weez1414]

Deciding on May 5th per rivals after Oregon visit. They have only Cincy and the
Johnnies listed as schools now. I think hes UC's definately. I think he's going to Oregon for a vacation and to see Niketown. (just my guess). But he will win more and play more for UC. Cmo Chris just sign now!

[Kindog202]

Deciding on May 5th per rivals after Oregon visit. They have only Cincy and the
Johnnies listed as schools now. I think hes UC's definately. I think he's going to Oregon for a vacation and to see Niketown. (just my guess). But he will win more and play more for UC. Cmo Chris just sign now!

I heard May 7th in honor of his mother's birthday. Either way, it sounds like this saga will finally reach its end in a couple of weeks. Fingers are crossed and feel pretty good right now on how it will end.

[Rock]

I don't feel good--taking way too long for me to feel good--recruiting is a heck of a way to make a living--go get 'em Mick!

[weez1414]

Theres just no way he picks Oregon the whole league sucks. Wow the owner of Nike went there. The Big O went here and I'm pretty sure he would beat Phil Knight 1 on 1. He will get more Wins and better himself with competition in the BEAST. I also can't see St. Johns either with the way things are going there.

[Kindog202]

I don't feel good--taking way too long for me to feel good--recruiting is a heck of a way to make a living--go get 'em Mick!

Key point to consider - We are an Addidas school and he is at a Nike (high)school right now. The main competition with us for his services are all Nike schools. This weekend he played in Vegas on the New Heights AAU team which is sponsored by Addidas and Mick was the only head coach there to watch because Obekpa made a "last" minute decision to play for the Addidas AAU team. How did Mick get this info in time to go see him when other coaches did not? and Why did he switch to play for an Addidas team now?
**
He could ultimately decide against coming here but there are a lot more signs out there right now that point towards him becoming a Bearcat than not...

[GoBearcats31]

Chad Brendel: Chris Obekpa will not visit Oregon as originally planned tomorrow. The Ducks are no longer in the running.



PF Orlando Sanchez just committed to Saint John's, per a number of people. Last year UC took Cheikh and then God's Gift landed at SJU. I'd have to imagine this couldn't hurt UC, seeing that Obekpa has been a big Red Storm target and they got Sanchez (UC has also recruited Sanchez a bit, for what it's worth).

[London 'Cat]

Chad Brendel: Chris Obekpa will not visit Oregon as originally planned tomorrow. The Ducks are no longer in the running.

That's encouraging. Now UC has one less suitor to fend off. I hope no other school is getitng involved late. Let's hope he has decided UC is the place for him.

[GoBearcats31]

Adam Zagoria: I'm told Chris Obekpa is rescheduling his visit to Oregon, but is not cancelling it.

[MilfordCat92]

Adam Zagoria: I'm told Chris Obekpa is rescheduling his visit to Oregon, but is not cancelling it.

And just when I was starting to feel better about him becoming a cat. Still gotta feeling we are in the lead though.

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Here's some stuff from CBS's Jon Rothstein that my buddy Jeff sent me:

Some guy that covers hoops for CBS named John Rothstein seems to be big on UC basketball in general – he was hyping Mick as a Coach of the Year candidate, hyping UC as an underrated team all year, hyping UC as an underrated team for 2012-13. So I don’t know if he is originally from Cincy or something..but he generally has a high regard for UC and Cronin. Some guy on Twitter asked him this weekend, “is Obekpa a lock for Cincy?” and he replied, “All signs pointing that way”……but like I said, no verbal, no written so I’ll believe it when I see it.

Here’s something from “The Rothstein Files” written April 11:

- Look for Mick Cronin and Cincinnati to get back to playing 10-11 guys next year in their rotation. Despite reaching the Sweet 16 during the past season, Cronin shortened his rotation and never was able to press the way he did two years ago or when he coached at Murray State. Look for next year’s squad to feature more depth highlighted by two players who red shirted this past season in forwards Shaquille Thomas and Octavious Ellis.
- We’re hearing that Cincinnati has emerged as the favorite for Our Savior New American big man Chris Obekpa. The 6-foot-9 shot blocking machine is also considering St. John’s and Oregon. Many scouts have compared Obekpa to NBA star Tyrus Thomas. The 2012 center would likely start immediately for the Bearcats next season in place of the graduated Yancy Gates.

[Levittation]

Here's some stuff from CBS's Jon Rothstein that my buddy Jeff sent me:

Some guy that covers hoops for CBS named John Rothstein seems to be big on UC basketball in general – he was hyping Mick as a Coach of the Year candidate, hyping UC as an underrated team all year, hyping UC as an underrated team for 2012-13. So I don’t know if he is originally from Cincy or something..but he generally has a high regard for UC and Cronin. Some guy on Twitter asked him this weekend, “is Obekpa a lock for Cincy?” and he replied, “All signs pointing that way”……but like I said, no verbal, no written so I’ll believe it when I see it.[/I]

FWIW I started following Josh Rothstein on twitter a little while back because I saw a few different re-tweets of his love for UC. After following him, I get the sense he is just an all around positive guy it what he reports and seems to have no biases towards one conference or another. He pumps out a lot of info on teams across the country. Good insight on recruiting too. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it seem like he loves a lot of teams and that 50 teams will be awesome next year and will all compete for a National Championship. Sort of like the anti-Doug Gottlieb,

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Cincinnati
The Bearcats would like to add at least one more player to their 2012 class, and if Mick Cronin's actions are any indication, that player could be Christopher Obekpa. Cronin attended every game the 6-foot-9 big man played in Las Vegas over the weekend. Out of Centereach, N.Y., Obekpa seems to be down to Cincinnati and St. John's.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/highschool/04/26/basketball-recruiting-notebook/index.html#ixzz1tB404Pcu

[GoBearcats31]

Just decide already, man....

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/29/obekpa-still-planning-oregon-visit/

[bearcatdoggie]

Just decide already, man....

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/29/obekpa-still-planning-oregon-visit/

Seriously, make up your mind! I wish we had another recruit that was similar but rated somewhat lower, I would go ahead and offer that guy the scholarship. The longer this goes on the more concerned I am about the player being committed to the team, and staying beyond year one. I know it's a tough decision, I get it, but at somepoint you have to go one way or the other.

[OCASCM07]

Relax everybody. We all want him here but bashing the kid for not making a decision yet is a mistake. Some of us remember how bashing Mick killed us in recruiting players like Marquis Teague and Kemba Walker who were really close to signing. Now that bashing Mick is no longer an option that is taken seriously let's not start bashing the players because they are taking their time to make the best decision FOR THEM.

[columbus_bearcat]

He's wanted to make the announcement on May 7 (his mom's birthday) from day 1. That has never changed.

[righthook]

Seriously, make up your mind! I wish we had another recruit that was similar but rated somewhat lower, I would go ahead and offer that guy the scholarship. The longer this goes on the more concerned I am about the player being committed to the team, and staying beyond year one. I know it's a tough decision, I get it, but at somepoint you have to go one way or the other.

Its a little annoying but in the end I would rather him take his time making a decision that he really wants to be here rather than making a quick decision and deciding to transfer mid year.

[bearcats5]

Yeah, no need to grow impatient. I actually feel the opposite about his wait--the longer he's waited, the better it appears for us because of what the competition has been doing. It's seemingly becoming more and more clear that St. John's thinks they're out (down to one scholarship now and appear to be focusing on Chandler and Nolan--also, haven't seen their name mentioned much, if at all, over the past few weeks in terms of being at his games, like Mick has). I take that as a good sign, as it was thought, for some time now, that it would come down to us and them. That's not to discount them, just saying that I feel good about their recent trend possibly helping us with Obekpa. Oregon is interesting, as there appears to be conflicting reports, as mentioned in this thread. I guess we'll find out who's right between Chad Brendel and Adam Zagoria this week. Still, at this point in time, I would be surprised if Obekpa wasn't a Bearcat.

[GoBearcats31]

Relax everybody. We all want him here but bashing the kid for not making a decision yet is a mistake. Some of us remember how bashing Mick killed us in recruiting players like Marquis Teague and Kemba Walker who were really close to signing. Now that bashing Mick is no longer an option that is taken seriously let's not start bashing the players because they are taking their time to make the best decision FOR THEM.

Bash is a strong word. Two people being impatient and wanting him to make a decision (because no one else is contributing to off-season basketball chatter) is not bashing. This is like when I do a fantasy baseball draft and use my full 90 seconds on a pick and other people are saying (60 seconds in), "Come on, pick already!"

Marquis Teague just won a national championship and is a first round draft pick. I highly doubt some bashing on this forum drove him to play for Calipari and UK and not for UC. I bet he was thinking, "Gee, I really want to go to UC but a few fans on their message board are bashing Mick. I guess I'll resort to my back up plan and follow in the footsteps of Rose, Evans, Wall and Knight."


So maybe you guys need to relax. We are all anxiously waiting and know the decision will come when it comes. No one is being irrational, just posting message board-like commentary on a ... wait for it... message board.


Go Bearcats!

[Ran513]

Agree with every word , except the recruits and message board stuff. Not the OP personally, but comments made on this board has absolutely cost us some recruits period. Choosing not to believe something doesn't make it not true. We can go back and forth all year about it and get nowhere, but message boards have an impact.

[Best Body]

Agree with every word , except the recruits and message board stuff. Not the OP personally, but comments made on this board has absolutely cost us some recruits period. Choosing not to believe something doesn't make it not true. We can go back and forth all year about it and get nowhere, but message boards have an impact.

I'm not even sure if I believe any recruit has ever actually even visited this site. If you are going to state this and have anyone take it seriously, some sort of evidence would be useful. If you can provide it, I certainly believe we will all be much more careful about what we post, but until then it just sounds like a huge reach.

[OCASCM07]

I'm not even sure if I believe any recruit has ever actually even visited this site. If you are going to state this and have anyone take it seriously, some sort of evidence would be useful. If you can provide it, I certainly believe we will all be much more careful about what we post, but until then it just sounds like a huge reach.

The last that I remember being posted was from the winter of '09/'10 to find where this is referenced that recruits and their parents look at the fan message boards which was directly from Mike Thomas' office and that's when BCN started banning people left and right for not being civil....dark times.

[Antonio]

Curious as to what you guys would rather have, a verbal commit like recent football recruit Dennis Norfleet, who backed out of his verbal commitment to Cincy 11th hour when his preferred team (Michigan) came calling or a guy who waits to even verbal to a school because he's hoping to sign the best offer?

I know football and hoops are different because the class sizes are huge and verbal commitments do little to stave off the sharks among other reasons, but I'd rather be in the situation we are with Obekpa (in the hunt) versus having him as a verbal to us who had not signed yet.

I have no reason to believe Obekpa is waiting for Kentucky or someone like that to come calling. But if he is, at least he's had the decency to tell UC he's merely considering us as an option instead of having us count on him.

If a big school swoops in and "steals" Obekpa, I will be angry. But it won't be with Obekpa. I'll be angry at the "haves" of the sport and disappointed he won't get center stage (look at the growing city-wide adulation for SK) in Cincy versus just another cog in a machine somewhere else. Ultimately though, at least he's had the decency to make it crystal clear he's just weighing UC an an option.

Again, I know the sports are different, but I much prefer this to the football verbal commits who back out 11th hour.

[levydl]

Seriously, make up your mind! I wish we had another recruit that was similar but rated somewhat lower, I would go ahead and offer that guy the scholarship. The longer this goes on the more concerned I am about the player being committed to the team, and staying beyond year one. I know it's a tough decision, I get it, but at somepoint you have to go one way or the other.

One of the dumber comments I've read about this recruitment. You're reading way too much into a kid deciding where he wants to go to college.

[Lobot]

He's wanted to make the announcement on May 7 (his mom's birthday) from day 1. That has never changed.

^^^THIS...................

[OCASCM07]

^^^THIS...................

So what you're saying is I need to go to Church on Sunday for hopefully a Monday commitment?....I'll do it.

[bearcatdoggie]

One of the dumber comments I've read about this recruitment. You're reading way too much into a kid deciding where he wants to go to college.

sorry if what I said earlier appearred as bashing, that wasn't my intent. Sometimes things written are taken differently than when they are actually heard in person. I'll admit that I'm probably thinking out of frustration that there hasn't been any word yet, and that I do wish he'll be a Bearcat soon, I was just thinking if it were me I would have made a decision because I wouldn't want to be squeezed out from a school I wanted to attend. That said, I'm not him, and he's thinking about it in his own way. Soon he'll decide,
if he's a Bearcat, that will be great. If not, I'll wish him well where ever he decides to go.

[OCASCM07]

sorry if what I said earlier appearred as bashing, that wasn't my intent. Sometimes things written are taken differently than when they are actually heard in person. I'll admit that I'm probably thinking out of frustration that there hasn't been any word yet, and that I do wish he'll be a Bearcat soon, I was just thinking if it were me I would have made a decision because I wouldn't want to be squeezed out from a school I wanted to attend. That said, I'm not him, and he's thinking about it in his own way. Soon he'll decide,
if he's a Bearcat, that will be great. If not, I'll wish him well where ever he decides to go.

I won't if that somewhere else is OSU, UK, UL, XU, SJU, Arizona or any other current, future, or previous BEast school in that order.

[Best Body]

The last that I remember being posted was from the winter of '09/'10 to find where this is referenced that recruits and their parents look at the fan message boards which was directly from Mike Thomas' office and that's when BCN started banning people left and right for not being civil....dark times.

If that came from Thomas's office, there may be a some truth to it. On the other hand, they may just have been attempting to censor criticism of the coach at the time. Or most likely, their office feared that maybe, possibly, recruits or there parents would check out some of the bearcat sites.

Was there any specific mention of this site (not just asking ocascmo - anyone that knows)? or was the concern at lair or on the enquirer uc area, etc.?

What recruit(s) (if applicable) were rumored to have been lost bc of BCN? I think if that were the case, someone from UC would likely have directly stated this to a mod to share to the group.

Also, if a player doesnt have thick enough skin to completely shrug off and ignore message board nonsense, does he emotionally have what it takes to be a big time college athlete?

[Ruckle]

If that came from Thomas's office, there may be a some truth to it. On the other hand, they may just have been attempting to censor criticism of the coach at the time. Or most likely, their office feared that maybe, possibly, recruits or there parents would check out some of the bearcat sites.

Was there any specific mention of this site (not just asking ocascmo - anyone that knows)? or was the concern at lair or on the enquirer uc area, etc.?

What recruit(s) (if applicable) were rumored to have been lost bc of BCN? I think if that were the case, someone from UC would likely have directly stated this to a mod to share to the group.

Also, if a player doesnt have thick enough skin to completely shrug off and ignore message board nonsense, does he emotionally have what it takes to be a big time college athlete?

There were rumors on this board when we were recruiting Marquis Teague that his dad frequented this site, and was unhappy with all the negativity toward Cronin. As far as I know that could be total BS, but it does seem possible.

[KY Bearcat]

Hey everybody, I've been out if the country for the last 2 weeks...has anything significant happened with Obekpa? Is the general consensus still positive about our chances of landing Chris?

[Lobot]

There were rumors on this board when we were recruiting Marquis Teague that his dad frequented this site, and was unhappy with all the negativity toward Cronin. As far as I know that could be total BS, but it does seem possible.

Not BS. Another board's admin privately emailed me and asked us to clean things up specifically because of Marquis Teague. The original request came from the AD's office. We were not the only board having the issue however so to say BCN lost UC a prime recruit may or may not be accurate. I frankly don't now if Teague's father read this particular board.

You have to remember that ANYONE with a few exceptions can read the board without being a member or poster. There's generally anywhere between 50 - 100 guests browsing the board during peak hours.

If you think that recruits/parents/coaches etc. don't read message boards, you're wrong and that's a fact as far as this board is concerned because Jason Maxiell's mother used to be a regular contributor.

[CroninCrazy]

Not BS. Another board's admin privately emailed me and asked us to clean things up specifically because of Marquis Teague. The original request came from the AD's office. We were not the only board having the issue however so to say BCN lost UC a prime recruit may or may not be accurate. I frankly don't now if Teague's father read this particular board.

You have to remember that ANYONE with a few exceptions can read the board without being a member or poster. There's generally anywhere between 50 - 100 guests browsing the board during peak hours.

If you think that recruits/parents/coaches etc. don't read message boards, you're wrong and that's a fact as far as this board is concerned because Jason Maxiell's mother used to be a regular contributor.

...and Kirkland's brother.

[BearcatAlum1]

Recruits/family members/AAU coaches/HS coaches do read message boards. Facts folks.

All of them don't, but some of them do.

[OCASCM07]

Recruits/family members/AAU coaches/HS coaches do read message boards. Facts folks.

All of them don't, but some of them do.

Which is why I say we have to respect recruits who are considering us no matter how we personally feel. Why we want to make our feelings known because we are fans of the Bearcats is understable we still need to respect the time it may take some recruits to make hardest decision some of these young men have ever had to make.

We should know by next Monday what Mr. Obekpa's decision is. Until then just relax and know that the fanbase is far more united than it has been in a long time and that the future looks brighter for Bearcat basketball.

[levydl]

Also, if a player doesnt have thick enough skin to completely shrug off and ignore message board nonsense, does he emotionally have what it takes to be a big time college athlete?

I agree. We were actually doing UC and Cronin a favor. Marquis Teague did look rattled in that national championship game.

/sarcasm/

[Best Body]

I agree. We were actually doing UC and Cronin a favor. Marquis Teague did look rattled in that national championship game.

/sarcasm/

Come on guys. You don't really believe that this site had anything to do with the kid choosing the top basketball program in the country? He had some interest, bc Mick was pushing hard for him and he appreciated it. Then he realized he could go there. End of story. Anyone who believes the rumors is exponentially overating the importance of our little board.

His dad had heard rumblings that Cronin wasn't exactly loved at the time. He could get that information here, any other bearcat site, the enquirer, asking around, showing up to a game and listenting to the crowd................It was true at the time. Still, had everyone loved Cronin, the kid was going to Kentucky.

[uccat04]

Come on guys. You don't really believe that this site had anything to do with the kid choosing the top basketball program in the country? He had some interest, bc Mick was pushing hard for him and he appreciated it. Then he realized he could go there. End of story. Anyone who believes the rumors is exponentially overating the importance of our little board.

His dad had heard rumblings that Cronin wasn't exactly loved at the time. He could get that information here, any other bearcat site, the enquirer, asking around, showing up to a game and listenting to the crowd................It was true at the time. Still, had everyone loved Cronin, the kid was going to Kentucky.

Finally, someone makes sense. Cronin could have been the most beloved sports figure in the history of Cincinnati and Teague would have gone to Kentucky. Come on guys. Stop taking yourselves too seriously.

At the same time, just let Obekpa make his decision on his terms. Finally a kid takes time and makes a rational decision that's best for him and now he gets bashed for that.

[Ran513]

Finally, someone makes sense. Cronin could have been the most beloved sports figure in the history of Cincinnati and Teague would have gone to Kentucky. Come on guys. Stop taking yourselves too seriously.

At the same time, just let Obekpa make his decision on his terms. Finally a kid takes time and makes a rational decision that's best for him and now he gets bashed for that.

Is this because his statement coincides with yours, that he has "sense", everyone else is speaking rubbish as far as your concerned? This is not meant to be an attack, just curious why the post made so much sense to you and you feel I'm taking myself to seriously because I don't feel how you do?

[levydl]

Come on guys. You don't really believe that this site had anything to do with the kid choosing the top basketball program in the country? He had some interest, bc Mick was pushing hard for him and he appreciated it. Then he realized he could go there. End of story. Anyone who believes the rumors is exponentially overating the importance of our little board.

His dad had heard rumblings that Cronin wasn't exactly loved at the time. He could get that information here, any other bearcat site, the enquirer, asking around, showing up to a game and listenting to the crowd................It was true at the time. Still, had everyone loved Cronin, the kid was going to Kentucky.

Anything to do with it? Who knows? I know people in the program thought it was hurting their chances.

And put Teague to the side, do you think all of that had no effect on any recruit at all? Or are you still of the mind that if it does it means the kid is weak and wouldn't cut it in the NCAA?

[Best Body]

Anything to do with it? Who knows? I know people in the program thought it was hurting their chances.

And put Teague to the side, do you think all of that had no effect on any recruit at all? Or are you still of the mind that if it does it means the kid is weak and wouldn't cut it in the NCAA?

I just think it sounds like an excuse to miss on recruits vs. anything else to me. "We probably would've had so and so sign a loi had the jerkoffs on bcn not posted that they thought Mick wasnt getting the job done, etc.". There are negative posts on every single teams message board across the entire country. Any recruit with half a brain knows that. Any decent recruiter can easily put those concerns to bed. And yes, I wonder if a kid wants to play for a coach, but is afraid of comments on a message board, how would he handle any real adversity?

A site like this is going to reflect the attitudes of the fans. If a recruit gets the vibe from here, another site, the newspaper, the stands, blogs, it doesnt matter. If he wants to know, he will know. He doesnt need to be a master detective to find that out.

I do agree with the other poster that this particular player has as long as he wants to decide, or at least as long as the coach wants to leave the scholarship offer open. I assume with Obekpa that it will remain open until he makes a decision. Not sure why the comments about him taking so long.........But I hardly think those comments will have an impact on which place he chooses. I'd bet my left one that he could give a crap what those posters think about it. This was my original point of these message boards having no real impact. Not really the stuff from 09/10. My understanding is that there have been death threats to recruits on Ohio States boards, and their recruiting seems pretty much just fine.

[2kirkalypse]

im pretty sure Teague didnt go to UC because of a message board, probably had more to do with the chance of winning a NC at UK.

That plus a duffel bag of cash...

[bearcats5]

No comment on whether or not UC message boards have or have not affected Bearcat recruiting, because I don't know, but here's an article that quotes recruits talking about message boards in general (with a focus on Washington forums with it being from a Tacoma news source): http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/01/08/1974157/rejected-fans-nastiness-a-nuisance.html

Again, not saying anything specific about UC boards, but it would be naive to think that no recruit (or a recruit's family, coaches, friends, etc.) is interested in reading about themselves on public forums, and that when recruits do, that what is said never has an effect on his opinion (or the aforementioned family, coaches, friends, etc.). Obviously, it probably doesn't have as big as an impact as the other major factors--winning, location, coaches, playing time, etc.--and may only be taken seriously by a small number of recruits, but it can still be seen as a representation of the school and its fans, even if it's just a minute percentage.



Back to the topic of Obekpa, I'd have to think that it's a good sign that there hasn't been news on the supposed rescheduled visit being finalized yet. For what it's worth, some of the fans on the Oregon forum seem to think that them landing Obekpa is a long shot, even with a visit. Most St. John's fans have resigned themselves to that opinion about their chances as well on their forum. Hopefully, they're right about their chances.

[OCASCM07]

No comment on whether or not UC message boards have or have not affected Bearcat recruiting, because I don't know, but here's an article that quotes recruits talking about message boards in general (with a focus on Washington forums with it being from a Tacoma news source): http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/01/08/1974157/rejected-fans-nastiness-a-nuisance.html

Again, not saying anything specific about UC boards, but it would be naive to think that no recruit (or a recruit's family, coaches, friends, etc.) is interested in reading about themselves on public forums, and that when recruits do, that what is said never has an effect on his opinion (or the aforementioned family, coaches, friends, etc.). Obviously, it probably doesn't have as big as an impact as the other major factors--winning, location, coaches, playing time, etc.--and may only be taken seriously by a small number of recruits, but it can still be seen as a representation of the school and its fans, even if it's just a minute percentage.

And that article my friends pretty much confirms it. Cool it on the boards with the negativity especially about young men that are making such an important decision.

We all want Chris Obekpa and I pray that Monday he announces that he's coming here if not we move on with the team that is on the court. I want his jersey hanging by Kenyon, Twyman, Cook, and Big O's jerseys after his senior season though and I think he's got the physical prowess to do just that.

[BigDaddyCornHusker]

No comment on whether or not UC message boards have or have not affected Bearcat recruiting, because I don't know, but here's an article that quotes recruits talking about message boards in general (with a focus on Washington forums with it being from a Tacoma news source): http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/01/08/1974157/rejected-fans-nastiness-a-nuisance.html

The problem with this is that Boards really have no control. Anyone from a rival school can get a username and post negative comments with the intent of driving a recruit away.

[bighicks14]

Ok back to Chrish Obekpa, what this thread should be about. I am really hoping he picks UC. He is the defensive presence that this team needs as long as he is smart and stays out of foul trouble. If he chooses UCand the team gels together like we did after the brawl, I could see UC being one of if not the top team in the Big East, and also making a deep run in March. I know Louisville will be tough, but I just have a good feeling about this team and what Obekpa will have to offer this team.

[BearCatMarcher]

He is the defensive presents that this team needs as long as he is smart and stays out of foul trouble.

The same way Christmas is an offensive presents for Syracuse :D

Sorry, couldn't help myself, back to lurking.

[bighicks14]

The same way Christmas is an offensive presents for Syracuse :D

Sorry, couldn't help myself, back to lurking.

haha sorry I should fix that. Tried to type that as fast as I could before my students entered the classroom.

[DMoney_70]

Funny. I thought this thread was actually for updates on Obekpa's recruiting but as it turns out it's just another typical bearcatnews urinating contest.

[Pruke]

Funny. I thought this thread was actually for updates on Obekpa's recruiting but as it turns out it's just another typical bearcatnews urinating contest.

Wo...ouch!

[longtimefan]

If he chooses UC and the team gels together like we did after the brawl, I could see UC being one of if not the top team in the Big East, and also making a deep run in March. I know Louisville will be tough, but I just have a good feeling about this team and what Obekpa will have to offer this team.

If he commits, we have a chance to be the best defensive team in the nation, and Mick will finally get to play the 94 foot game he could not play with Yancy, with lots of scoring off the defense. If he comes, the Big East will be between UC and Louisville, and a final 4 is definitely not out of the question.

[bighicks14]

If he commits, we have a chance to be the best defensive team in the nation, and Mick will finally get to play the 94 foot game he could not play with Yancy, with lots of scoring off the defense. If he comes, the Big East will be between UC and Louisville, and a final 4 is definitely not out of the question.

I couldn't agree more. We can only cross our fingers and hope that he chooses UC.

[ucat4]

If he comes, the Big East will be between UC and Louisville, and a final 4 is definitely not out of the question

I like and agree!! Chris Obekpa and the Cincinnati Bearcats!! I love the sound of that.......

[juckerrules]

Everything I read says he's not announcing anything May 5th and that he's rescheduling a visit to Oregon - hardly sounds like anyone seriously interested in UC.
What have missed? Posters talk about it like it's a done deal - seems toe, if he was coming here, he would have- logic tells me there's no way -I hope logic is wrong, but why think UC is his destination?

[bearcats5]

Everything I read says he's not announcing anything May 5th and that he's rescheduling a visit to Oregon - hardly sounds like anyone seriously interested in UC.
What have missed? Posters talk about it like it's a done deal - seems toe, if he was coming here, he would have- logic tells me there's no way -I hope logic is wrong, but why think UC is his destination?

Different stories from different sources. Some people say Oregon pulled out (started with Chad Brendel's source at Oregon) and that the delay is him wanting to announce on his mom's birthday (I think that's on Monday according to other posts I've seen). The May 5 date originally came from a Rivals article. Adam Zagoria is the one who reported that the visit was rescheduled, and not cancelled. His source was an assistant coach at Obekpa's school. It depends on who you believe really. UC has been the favorite by most for awhile now (even those on the St. John's, Oregon, and Providence boards admit this). I think that's why people are talking about it as a virtual done deal.

Also, as other posters have said on this board and others, the recruit doesn't always have 100% control over his recruitment. I'm not saying that's the case here, because I don't know if it is or not, but that could cause delays in any prospect's recruitment. A counter to your last statement--about logic saying if he were coming to UC, he would already be here--could be: if he were going to St. John's or Providence, why hasn't he committed to them yet, and if both him and Oregon felt rescheduling his visit was such a top priority, why hasn't it been finalized in the two weeks since the original date?

[OCASCM07]

Does anybody know if they have announced a press conference for tomorrow yet? And if so at what time?

[GoBearcats31]

Does anybody know if they have announced a press conference for tomorrow yet? And if so at what time?

Contrary to what some people seem to think on this board, I don't think anyone knows for sure when he is choosing.

[Lobot]

Contrary to what some people seem to think on this board, I don't think anyone knows for sure when he is choosing.

Great time to bring that up as apparently the rumor mill has him not announcing tomorrow. The Adults have gotten nvolved and Oregon may be on the map.key word rumor.

[GoBearcats31]

Great time to bring that up as apparently the rumor mill has him not announcing tomorrow. The Adults have gotten nvolved and Oregon may be on the map.key word rumor.

Chad Brendel, BCL: I wouldn't expect Chris Obekpa news any time soon. Looks to be going the undefined distance.

[OCASCM07]

I don't know how he can go the undefined distance. The last day for signing a NLI for basketball is May 16th from what I remember reading.

[bearcats5]

(Possible) Related news of interest: Anthony Bennett has eliminated UK, making Oregon and UNLV his final two choices. He is expected to announce "by the end of this week." According to Oregon forums, they have one available scholarship remaining.

Zagsblog on Bennett: http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/06/bennett-eliminates-kentucky-down-to-unlv-oregon/

[OCASCM07]

(Possible) Related news of interest: Anthony Bennett has eliminated UK, making Oregon and UNLV his final two choices. He is expected to announce "by the end of this week." According to Oregon forums, they have one available scholarship remaining.

Zagsblog on Bennett: http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/06/bennett-eliminates-kentucky-down-to-unlv-oregon/

I think one of his high school or AAU teammates is at Oregon so they are either real contenders for him or he's going to go to Sin City where I'm sure there is no money involved...(sarcasm intended)

[swilsonsp4]

I don't know how he can go the undefined distance. The last day for signing a NLI for basketball is May 16th from what I remember reading.

I don't know that that would be a drop-dead date. Wouldn't a player be able to hang on right up to the start of school before deciding? He just wouldn't have committed yet & would be taking a chance that his favorites would have filled their allotments. He also would be subject to continual badgering by other coaches who need someone, but he wasn't necessarily considering.

[OCASCM07]

I don't know that that would be a drop-dead date. Wouldn't a player be able to hang on right up to the start of school before deciding? He just wouldn't have committed yet & would be taking a chance that his favorites would have filled their allotments. He also would be subject to continual badgering by other coaches who need someone, but he wasn't necessarily considering.

I know Lance committed late but he had amateur eligibility issues that the NCAA had to approve before any school would sign him so I think they gave him a pass if I remember correctly.

Here is where it gives a solid deadline for basketball so I think it's pretty much set in stone as next Wednesday unless there is some other rule I'm not aware of.http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli

[jbreeds1]

Jon Rothstein still thinks we're the heavy favorite. FWIW.

[swilsonsp4]

Here is where it gives a solid deadline for basketball so I think it's pretty much set in stone as next Wednesday unless there is some other rule I'm not aware of.http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli

However, the dates are solid only with respect to someone who actually intends to sign an NLI. See the link below, which states that no one is required to sign. They can just enroll. (Click on "Signing an NLI", then on "Am I required to sign an NLI?")

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli/frequently+asked+questions/index.html

[KY Bearcat]

Sources over at bearcatlair say Obekpa is likely to visit Oregon this week...saying its becoming more clear whats going to happen...Cincy vs. Oregon...Adidas vs. Nike

If Adidas is going to cost us recruits, I hope we go back to Nike soon. It seems that the majority of major recruits are be herded to Nike schools. This sucks.

[weez1414]

Sources over at bearcatlair say Obekpa is likely to visit Oregon this week...saying its becoming more clear whats going to happen...Cincy vs. Oregon...Adidas vs. Nike

If Adidas is going to cost us recruits, I hope we go back to Nike soon. It seems that the majority of major recruits are be herded to Nike schools. This sucks.

Can't see him choose a school all the way across the nation for a brand name. I'f he is that good in his mind he should only play college for 2 years maybe, what benefit would NIKE be really. If he is that close to his family like choosing his signing date for his mothers b-day like i've heard I just don't see it. But you never know what a kid might do for neon yellow NIKE'S. But I do like NIKE better shoes and uni's.

[GoBearcats31]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/05/08/rothstein-files-five-quick-hits-on-college-hoops/[B][B]

4. CHRIS OBEKPA WILL BE A STARTER WHEREVER HE PLAYS NEXT SEASON

And all signs still point towards the shot blocker winding up at Cincinnati despite Oregon, Providence, and DePaul remaining somewhat involved. After watching the 6-foot-9 big man in person on Sunday in Queens at IS8, Obekpa really reminds me of Theo Ratliff when the former NBA big man was at Wyoming.

A freak athlete with unbelievable timing, Obekpa is perfect for any team that likes to pressure the ball with regularity. Should Obekpa opt to play for Mick Cronin and the Bearcats as many anticipate, he’ll immediately step in for Yancy Gates as Cincinnati’s starting five man.

[bcbearcat12]

Beat me to the punch GoBearcats31....now if he would just committ already so we could all stop feeling so helpless

[bcbearcat12]

With all this time passing with no news I'd almost rather them keep saying there was no favorite, instead of saying he's ours to lose. Maybe just my cincy sports fan conditioning of being used to having my heart stomped on when I get my hopes up.

[GoBearcats31]

Beat me to the punch GoBearcats31....now if he would just committ already so we could all stop feeling so helpless

Careful bcbearcat12, some on this forum might interpret your "commit already" to believe that you are ripping him for not making a decision in his best interests. :D

It's unclear when he'll make the call, but the longer this goes on, the more it makes me scratch my head. But whatever happens, happens. It's just tough because if he opts elsewhere, we have an open 'ship (and a hole in our front court) and it's probably difficult for Mick to promise anything to someone (i.e. a transfer) when he only has one 'ship to give and is holding the door open for Obekpa.

[Ran513]

Does a transfers scholly count for the sit year, or the active year?

[GoBearcats31]

Does a transfers scholly count for the sit year, or the active year?

Transfers are on scholarship and would count against the 13 even when sitting out per NCAA rules

[jplog]

Can someone fill me in as to why a name brand would influence a kid's college choice? Why a Nike school over and Adidas school?

[Thegreatone]

Can someone fill me in as to why a name brand would influence a kid's college choice? Why a Nike school over and Adidas school?

In short, AAU teams are sponsored by Nike/Adidas which the kids handlers (coaches) benefit greatly from. These kids are pushed to the schools that take care of their handlers by nature.

So if Adidas sponors Johns AAU team and makes their handlers happy they will push John to Cincinnati to play for Mick Cronin who gets 6 figures per year to have his team wear adidas sneakers and gear. Which they market heavily and make up the money they have invested.

Every once in a while you get a Derrick Rose who will sign a mega deal with you over Nike because of this relationship...

[jplog]

In short, AAU teams are sponsored by Nike/Adidas which the kids handlers (coaches) benefit greatly from. These kids are pushed to the schools that take care of their handlers by nature.

So if Adidas sponors Johns AAU team and makes their handlers happy they will push John to Cincinnati to play for Mick Cronin who gets 6 figures per year to have his team wear adidas sneakers and gear. Which they market heavily and make up the money they have invested.

Every once in a while you get a Derrick Rose who will sign a mega deal with you over Nike because of this relationship...

Thanks, but I'm not seeing in real benefit for the kid. Obviously he can't get special treatment at a sponsered school so is it just loyalty to his AAU coaches? If the kid is a college phenom he'll probably sign with whatever brand pays the most anyway (once he enters the NBA). I hope CO chooses the school that he feels will give him the best chance to succeed and we know who that is!

[GoBearcats31]

Recruitment appears down to Oregon, Providence, DePaul and UC per his Twitter

To recap - NIT quarterfinals, Big East 15 seed, Big East 16 seed, Big East 4 seed/NCAA Sweet 16

[bearcats5]

Recruitment appears down to Oregon, Providence, DePaul and UC per his Twitter

To recap - NIT quarterfinals, Big East 15 seed, Big East 16 seed, Big East 4 seed/NCAA Sweet 16

Yeah, one certainly stands out from the rest.

[Lobot]

Readers Please don't tweet Obekpa. You can follow but tweeting him is a secondary NCAA violaton. Seriously.

[Pruke]

Readers Please don't tweet Obekpa. You can follow but tweeting him is a secondary NCAA violaton. Seriously.

Really? Seems a bit extreme. What if you retweet? Lots of weird goofy stuff on the pages of the manual. Perhaps we can't cheer his name during recruiting as well...

I know you're trying to do the right thing but the NCAA has some issues.

[OCASCM07]

Recruitment appears down to Oregon, Providence, DePaul and UC per his Twitter

To recap - NIT quarterfinals, Big East 15 seed, Big East 16 seed, Big East 4 seed/NCAA Sweet 16

He also threw St. John's and UConn in there later as well.

[OCASCM07]

Really? Seems a bit extreme. What if you retweet? Lots of weird goofy stuff on the pages of the manual. Perhaps we can't cheer his name during recruiting as well...

I know you're trying to do the right thing but the NCAA has some issues.

Yeah no kidding. Even Theo Ratliff put it out there with a tag for St. John's

[swilsonsp4]

Really? Seems a bit extreme. What if you retweet? Lots of weird goofy stuff on the pages of the manual. Perhaps we can't cheer his name during recruiting as well...

I know you're trying to do the right thing but the NCAA has some issues.

It's not just fans who are restricted; coaches and administrators are limited in the amount of contact they can have with a recruit. Those limitations include the number of contacts and the timing of contacts (dead and silent periods). Kelvin Sampson is no longer coaching in college because of excessive phone calls (and stupidly repeating the practice at IU, after getting caught at OK). We are considered to be representatives of the university, merely by being fans. Therefore, we are restricted.

That said, I'm not so sure that Mick, Butch and the other coaches would want us to contact a recruit, even if it were a legal practice. They work hard to build relationships that some well-meaning fan(s) could mess up. I know I've said things to people that seemed OK on the surface, but either were taken the wrong way or stated poorly.

[Lobot]

I Should probably point out that according the NCAA you can't contact them even AFTER they Sign an NLI/Grant in aid. Once they get enrolled on campus, go for it.

[BearCatMarcher]

Readers Please don't tweet Obekpa. You can follow but tweeting him is a secondary NCAA violaton. Seriously.

That may be a rule now, but as the information age charges on this will become laughably impossible to enforce.

Your move NCAA

[OCASCM07]

That may be a rule now, but as the information age charges on this will become laughably impossible to enforce.

Your move NCAA

No kidding especially when every school's fans have already replied at least once. Good luck trying to enforce that one NCAA

[blackattack]

That may be a rule now, but as the information age charges on this will become laughably impossible to enforce.
Your move NCAA

Yep. Problem is the NC2A loves rules like this. They know it's impossible to enforce, which allows them to selectively penalize the offenders.

[Best Body]

I'm not suggesting anyone break any ncaa rules, but has any school ever been penalized for tweeting/facebook/whatever contact by a fan to a recruit, if the fan is not really attached to the program in any way? Just curious.

[OCASCM07]

I'm not suggesting anyone break any ncaa rules, but has any school ever been penalized for tweeting/facebook/whatever contact by a fan to a recruit, if the fan is not really attached to the program in any way? Just curious.

First I've heard of it being for anything not related to giving money. I know that I deleted my reply after I read on here it my be a violation so I put a non-specific reply up which didn't involve any schools or coaches.

My favorite are the UConn replies. Hillarious. "Don't worry about not being able to play in the tournament next year unless you don't plan on staying for at least 2 years."

[Pruke]

It's not just fans who are restricted; coaches and administrators are limited in the amount of contact they can have with a recruit. Those limitations include the number of contacts and the timing of contacts (dead and silent periods). Kelvin Sampson is no longer coaching in college because of excessive phone calls (and stupidly repeating the practice at IU, after getting caught at OK). We are considered to be representatives of the university, merely by being fans. Therefore, we are restricted.

That said, I'm not so sure that Mick, Butch and the other coaches would want us to contact a recruit, even if it were a legal practice. They work hard to build relationships that some well-meaning fan(s) could mess up. I know I've said things to people that seemed OK on the surface, but either were taken the wrong way or stated poorly.

Except I receive no compensation from the university. No affiliation whatsoever. We had a cash for services agreement often referred to as education, but it included no post- graduation agreements, terms or conditions.

I could see this being an issue if the University encouraged fans to do it, but that's on the University. UC / Cronin / other reps have never to my knowledge encouraged anything like that.

[OCASCM07]

Except I receive no compensation from the university. No affiliation whatsoever. We had a cash for services agreement often referred to as education, but it included no post- graduation agreements, terms or conditions.

I could see this being an issue if the University encouraged fans to do it, but that's on the University. UC / Cronin / other reps have never to my knowledge encouraged anything like that.

I could also see it if the player doesn't want to know what their followers think they should do.

[BearCatMarcher]

Yep. Problem is the NC2A loves rules like this. They know it's impossible to enforce, which allows them to selectively penalize the offenders.

I was more going in the direction of, say, this scenario:

God's Gift tweeting how he likes St Johns, I as a Cincy fan make an account (or 5) posing as a St. Johns fan, laying it out pretty thick how bad they suck in every tweet etc. Or worse, my own school.

Or 500 fans that tweet but do not read BCN or "The NCAA: The Rules: The Handbook: The Movie" and post whatever they want. Can the NCAA fine or do whatever they were planning on doing to that school? That's just asking to be sued, because as fans none of us signed ANYTHING giving consent that we acknowledge the rule. And again, what is stopping someone from sabotaging a school by tweeting every single recruit they get in order to draw attention and penalties from the NCAA?

[Pruke]

I could also see it if the player doesn't want to know what their followers think they should do.

Absolutely. I'm not a huge twitter person but I believe you can block anyone for any reason.

[OCASCM07]

Hot off the presses of NYCHoops.net. Chris Obekpa to still take visit to Oregon and won't make a decision until late May or early June. And the Nike deal at Oregon may be one reason why.

From the Article:
..."The Regular Signing Period ends May 16th. Any National Letter of Intent signed after that date would be voided.

"You don't have to sign a letter of intent," reminds Coach Jaklitsch.

This is true. Most college prospects sign the National Letter of Intent to bind the school to them. A school can not back out of the commitment after signing. Of course there are loop holes that dastardly college programs use but for the most part the NLI provides a future student-athlete assurances of loyalty.

Assurances that supersede recruiter's puffery.

If they don't intend to sign during the Signing Period the deadline stretches even further into the waning days of Spring.

A decision could come soon. Or maybe after that.

"Later this month or early next month," suggests Obekpa himself.

Should Cincinnati worry?

Regardless of the timing of the decision UC fans just want to know where. Where will he choose to attend school?

Does Cincinnati lead, as some reporters claim?

"No guarantees in recruiting," said Coach Jaklitsch. "You see one school pegged as the school he is going to go to and then he winds up somewhere else. Player 'X' likes one school but winds up at another school all the time."

Does this mean Christopher doesn't like Cincinnati? Hardly. Is it an intentionally vague answer to a straight question? Absolutely.

And now you understand why no one knows where Christopher Obekpa is going to college."

[Thegreatone]

THanks for posting. I reposted at BCT.

Really getting put off by this stuff.

[Pruke]

Yank it. We need guys who want to be here, want to play hard and want to win a championship. I respect the fact he has his own interests at heart, but as an academic instituion with a strong athletics program, we should too. I love Mick for all of his effort, just hope it's not in vain.

[cincycpaw]

Yank it. We need guys who want to be here, want to play hard and want to win a championship. I respect the fact he has his own interests at heart, but as an academic instituion with a strong athletics program, we should too. I love Mick for all of his effort, just hope it's not in vain.

Why yank it when you don't have any other options worth it anyhow? Or does he?

I say go all in on this guy. He could be a great Bearcat. If he picks Depaul (really?), providence, or Oregon he clearly doesn't care about playing winning basketball on the big stage. Then keep the scholly for 2013 as it is an extremely important class for Mick and UC.

[Thegreatone]

I think we should push his hand a little bit. Say he has until May 16th to sign a letter of intent or we will be pulling our offer.

But, if Mick thinks he MUST have him then you put up with this as long as you can.

[OCASCM07]

I'll probably get in trouble for this but here is the whole story unedited. Mods if you have to remove I completely understand.

But I do not agree that we yank the scholarship offer because this kid really sounds like he'll be a Bearcat legend if he stays all four years. If nothing else we save it for next year's class if he doesn't come here.

Cincinnati Bearcat basketball fans want Christopher Obekpa. They have been waiting for his commitment for about ten months now. The Fall Signing Period passed without a single signing.

And UC coaches and fans waited. Hoping.

During the winter junior college combo forward Titus Rubles verbally committed. He made it official during April.

In ten days the Spring Signing Period will pass too. Most likely Obekpa will not sign by the May 16th deadline.

Christopher has every right to decide on his own time. It is his life that will be impacted the most by the decision.

But extracting any information from the Obekpa Camp gets to be exhausting.

Teammates playfully warn approaching reporters that 'Careful he doesn't speak English.'

In truth Obekpa speaks eloquently. He grew up with English.

Rosters listing AAU players always display a home phone number, often a cell phone number for each athlete. For Obekpa? "C/O Coach."

Ok, so Christopher Obekpa has a gatekeeper. Fair enough. He was born on another continent and it seems like an astute decision.

"I have to be protective of the young man," said Our Savior New American High School Assistant Coach Eric Jaklitsch.

Calls to Coach Jaklitsch routinely go unanswered.

Straight to voicemail. Days later. Voicemail, voicemail, voicemail.

Text messages are met with, 'We are not answering questions right now.'

Even after official visits only a few aggressive reporters snuck in a few questions.

Known suitors
It is known that Cincinnati is very involved.

"He is very interested in Providence,' said Our Savior New American High School Assistant Coach Eric Jaklitsch. "He has been talking with them. And he has been talking with DePaul."

DePaul, Cincinnati, and St. John's have hosted the 6'8" senior for official visits. Schools including UConn and Providence have had the young man on campus unofficially.

The wildcard in the process becomes Oregon.

Coach Jaklitsch and Christopher wanted to take an official visit to Oregon April 22nd, but it did not materialize. They still want the trip to take place.

"Hopefully," said Obekpa. "They are still trying to fix it."

Oregon's program has the unique link to NIKE, giving them a branding edge over every school in the nation.

"He is visiting Oregon," affirmed Coach Jaklitsch. "The dates didn't work out."

Since the Oregon trip keeps getting postponed an early May signing appears increasingly unlikely.

The Regular Signing Period ends May 16th. Any National Letter of Intent signed after that date would be voided.

"You don't have to sign a letter of intent," reminds Coach Jaklitsch.

This is true. Most college prospects sign the National Letter of Intent to bind the school to them. A school can not back out of the commitment after signing. Of course there are loop holes that dastardly college programs use but for the most part the NLI provides a future student-athlete assurances of loyalty.

Assurances that supersede recruiter's puffery.

If they don't intend to sign during the Signing Period the deadline stretches even further into the waning days of Spring.

A decision could come soon. Or maybe after that.

"Later this month or early next month," suggests Obekpa himself.

Should Cincinnati worry?
Regardless of the timing of the decision UC fans just want to know where. Where will he choose to attend school?

Does Cincinnati lead, as some reporters claim?

"No guarantees in recruiting," said Coach Jaklitsch. "You see one school pegged as the school he is going to go to and then he winds up somewhere else. Player 'X' likes one school but winds up at another school all the time."

Does this mean Christopher doesn't like Cincinnati? Hardly. Is it an intentionally vague answer to a straight question? Absolutely.

And now you understand why no one knows where Christopher Obekpa is going to college.

[bearcats5]

I say go all in on this guy. He could be a great Bearcat. If he picks Depaul (really?), providence, or Oregon he clearly doesn't care about playing winning basketball on the big stage. Then keep the scholly for 2013 as it is an extremely important class for Mick and UC.

Agreed. I would just stick with Obekpa, and if for whatever reason he decides to go elsewhere, just pocket the scholarship for 2013 (unless Julius Mays is still available--I would go for him since he wouldn't affect 2013 recruiting). Out of the names we've been linked to in the remaining 2012 prospects, I'm not sure I like any of them more than the 2013 prospects we're after. No need to use a scholarship just for the sake of using it.

[OCASCM07]

Yank it. We need guys who want to be here, want to play hard and want to win a championship. I respect the fact he has his own interests at heart, but as an academic instituion with a strong athletics program, we should too. I love Mick for all of his effort, just hope it's not in vain.

Mick stuck in there to the end on quite a few current and upcoming NBA players that went to the Boeheims, Thompson IIIs, Pitinos, Caliparis and Callhouns of the world(two of which won NCs). If Mick is sticking out this long and with as much focus and attention on one player then I have to think that he is something special and worth the wait.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

This horse has been beaten so many times, I think it's just time to sit back and wait. There isn't much more to talk about that hasn't been said.

[Lobot]

One thing to remember, and Obekpa's coach brought it up himself, there's nothing that says he has sign an NLI. All He has to do is enroll. Anything signed after May 16th is voided anyway.