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brett
10-18-2011, 08:03 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/sports/ncaafootball/missouri-moves-closer-to-joining-sec.html?_r=2&ref=sports

Looks like things are starting to move again.

dbernie41
10-18-2011, 09:19 AM
I saw this on ESPN and that the Big East doubled the exit fees. Even though they are doubled, I still feel like UL and WVU could walk right out the door.

GoUC11
10-18-2011, 09:41 AM
Leave it to the BE BB schools to delay inviting people so it doesn't get in the way of media day and in the meantime let the landscape shift....again, while the BE fiddles

Absolutely ridiculous. If anyone on this forum is comfortable staying with such inept leadership then I wonder....would you stay on the Titanic after it struck the ice berg?

Big B
10-18-2011, 09:53 AM
I may have missed it, but I have yet to see a article that says the SEC is remotely interested in Missouri. Did I miss something? This article sounds very one sided to me.

Rational Cat
10-18-2011, 10:26 AM
I saw this on ESPN and that the Big East doubled the exit fees. Even though they are doubled, I still feel like UL and WVU could walk right out the door.

When does that go into effect? It doesn't say. If immediately, then it has some teeth, if not, then it just provides a deadline for other conferences to further poach.

If it's immediate, then the Cats aren't going anywhere. We don't have "Papa John" to pick up the fee for us.

Pruke
10-18-2011, 10:35 AM
Well - at least we could fund the practice facility :)

swilsonsp4
10-18-2011, 12:44 PM
Apparently, BYU is still in the mix for the B12, per the link below. Also, Marinatto is holding a news conference today. I can't wait for this double-speak.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2143

brett
10-18-2011, 02:22 PM
When does that go into effect? It doesn't say. If immediately, then it has some teeth, if not, then it just provides a deadline for other conferences to further poach.

If it's immediate, then the Cats aren't going anywhere. We don't have "Papa John" to pick up the fee for us.

I have read that the exit fee increase goes into affect if we pick up one of the service academy's (likely Navy or Air Force). In other words, we will raise the fee to $10M IF they commit since that is they want assurances of league stability.

swilsonsp4
10-18-2011, 03:26 PM
I have read that the exit fee increase goes into affect if we pick up one of the service academy's (likely Navy or Air Force). In other words, we will raise the fee to $10M IF they commit since that is they want assurances of league stability.

Marinatto has spoken: 12 teams (TBD), championship game in NYC; If AFA or Navy (unspecified by him, but mentioned in the write-up) join, the $10M kicks in.

http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2011/10/18/bmurphy/big_east_commish_no_invitations_have_been_extended _no_problem_ex

Johnny Mac
10-18-2011, 03:54 PM
Another December football game (ala Pinstripe Bowl) in New York City? Give me a break.

GoUC11
10-18-2011, 04:21 PM
Well. his dream of NYC is nice in theory. Big market, theoretically a big stage. But I am sure the western schools would beg to differ on this. I can't see Boise being thrilled about traveling all the way to NYC when chances are they will be the #1 team. I see the game being played somewhere a little more central or at the home of the top team in the BE.

Speaking of BE, can we just change the name of the football conference? There is nothing Eastern about this conference.

bearcat25
10-18-2011, 04:47 PM
Well. his dream of NYC is nice in theory. Big market, theoretically a big stage. But I am sure the western schools would beg to differ on this. I can't see Boise being thrilled about traveling all the way to NYC when chances are they will be the #1 team. I see the game being played somewhere a little more central or at the home of the top team in the BE.

Speaking of BE, can we just change the name of the football conference? There is nothing Eastern about this conference.

There is also nothing "12" about the Big 12 and nothing "Ten" about the Big Ten. : )

richard k.
10-18-2011, 05:14 PM
There is also nothing "12" about the Big 12 and nothing "Ten" about the Big Ten. : )

And the last time I looked there was nothing "Atlantic" about Dayton, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, or St. Louis, and the math may even be worse than the conferences you cite, with 14 schools in the A10. ;)

CaptainProbasco
10-19-2011, 09:00 AM
When does that go into effect? It doesn't say. If immediately, then it has some teeth, if not, then it just provides a deadline for other conferences to further poach.

If it's immediate, then the Cats aren't going anywhere. We don't have "Papa John" to pick up the fee for us.

The Big 12 media contract pays $12 million more than the BE every year. So we'd make up more than the exit fee in just the first year. We can't afford NOT to accept an offer to the Big 12, if it comes.

Pruke
10-19-2011, 09:16 AM
The Big 12 media contract pays $12 million more than the BE every year. So we'd make up more than the exit fee in just the first year. We can't afford NOT to accept an offer to the Big 12, if it comes.

It ain't happening.

coach
10-19-2011, 09:30 AM
you're making awful big assumptions that every new member would share equally. don't believe it. one of the reasons these conferences are not jumping to 16 as predicted is because they are not totally sure what "net" impact adding teams will have on their current status.

UCfan_kc
10-20-2011, 04:01 PM
I live in KC where Mizzou board is meeting at UMKC to discuss SEC today. It is expected that Mizzou will make the decision any day. I originally thought that if Mizzou decides to leave, that the Big 12 would immediately try to expand to 12. However, many are saying that the conference would hold at 10 members until the expiration of the TV contract because they would in effect maximize their split of TV contract money. People are also saying that West Virginia is not the top choice - that Louisville would be tapped to fill the void left by Mizzou. There would be no further Big 12 expansion for a couple years, leaving UC to twist in the wind for a while in a weakening Big East. On the bright side, Big East keeping WV might prevent it from losing AQ status.

I don't know that it's true...but that seems to be the sentiment around here right now.

1977 BearCat
10-21-2011, 02:24 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/32845433

Why would Mizzou need to pursue an invitational basketball tournament in Kansas City as well as an annual football game in the city against "a traditional regional rival" if they were staying in the Big 12 (they play Kansas at ArrowHead every year now)

1977 BearCat
10-21-2011, 02:34 PM
Mizzou prez indicted that he expects a decision in the not to distant future and that he would expect to play in whatever league is chosen next season. UL and WVa aren't going anywhere until at least 2014 season so if the Big 12 wants 10 teams before that, hello BYU.

catscratchfever
10-21-2011, 02:57 PM
I live in KC where Mizzou board is meeting at UMKC to discuss SEC today. It is expected that Mizzou will make the decision any day. I originally thought that if Mizzou decides to leave, that the Big 12 would immediately try to expand to 12. However, many are saying that the conference would hold at 10 members until the expiration of the TV contract because they would in effect maximize their split of TV contract money. People are also saying that West Virginia is not the top choice - that Louisville would be tapped to fill the void left by Mizzou. There would be no further Big 12 expansion for a couple years, leaving UC to twist in the wind for a while in a weakening Big East. On the bright side, Big East keeping WV might prevent it from losing AQ status.

I don't know that it's true...but that seems to be the sentiment around here right now.

under the guidelines for keeping the AQ status, actually, keeping UC would be more of a benefit to the Big East than keeping WVU. UC in recent years has had more BCS appearances and higher BCS finishes than WVU. I believe (not certain) that they go back 5 years when making the calculations.

GoCats1994
10-21-2011, 07:53 PM
I live in KC where Mizzou board is meeting at UMKC to discuss SEC today. It is expected that Mizzou will make the decision any day. I originally thought that if Mizzou decides to leave, that the Big 12 would immediately try to expand to 12. However, many are saying that the conference would hold at 10 members until the expiration of the TV contract because they would in effect maximize their split of TV contract money. People are also saying that West Virginia is not the top choice - that Louisville would be tapped to fill the void left by Mizzou. There would be no further Big 12 expansion for a couple years, leaving UC to twist in the wind for a while in a weakening Big East. On the bright side, Big East keeping WV might prevent it from losing AQ status.

I don't know that it's true...but that seems to be the sentiment around here right now.

The Big East still has the 27 month commitment. It would not be an immediate transition. This is (one of the reasons) people seem to think BYU or Boise could be offered first...because they could immediately step in

UCfan_kc
10-22-2011, 01:45 AM
The Big East still has the 27 month commitment. It would not be an immediate transition. This is (one of the reasons) people seem to think BYU or Boise could be offered first...because they could immediately step in

Is there a buyout option on the 27 month commitment? If Louisville, WV, or UC got the nod, would they really hang around in the BE for 27 months? It seems in every case so far school/boosters has ponied up the dough to just make a quick exit.

1977 BearCat
10-22-2011, 08:50 AM
Is there a buyout option on the 27 month commitment? If Louisville, WV, or UC got the nod, would they really hang around in the BE for 27 months? It seems in every case so far school/boosters has ponied up the dough to just make a quick exit.

Only if the Big East wants to negotiate. In the case of Pitt and Syr, they want the 27 months and the $5 million and by contract are entitled to both.