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True Bearcat

10-26-2011, 07:33 AM

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/football/big_east_to_offer_invitations_to_UrBXmt748ilkyfwbS 9KsNK

Bearcat22

10-26-2011, 07:45 AM

I dont like how we were at this meeting and Louisville was not. That makes me think they know something or already got an invite behind closed doors and we did not.

:confused:

Carin's Dad

10-26-2011, 08:20 AM

I dont like how we were at this meeting and Louisville was not. That makes me think they know something or already got an invite behind closed doors and we did not.

:confused:I think you read it wrong. It said Louisville was there.

cmm27

10-26-2011, 08:31 AM

I'm pretty sure it said Louisville was not there.

1977 BearCat

10-26-2011, 08:34 AM

I think you read it wrong. It said Louisville was there.

Not there.

cpawstoney

10-26-2011, 09:01 AM

If we don't get an invite to the Big-12, I like this idea to hang onto the AQ in some form or fashion:

Also, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that the commissioners of the Mountain West and Conference USA, Craig Thompson and Britton Banowsky, would meet with Big East commissioner John Marinatto today to discuss a football superconference of 28 to 32 teams, though a conference spokes-man told ESPN no in-person meeting was scheduled.

“We would figure out some way – four divisions of seven teams each, a playoff and then a conference championship game – to come up with the (automatic qualifier),” UNLV athletic director Jim Liven good told the Review-Journal.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20111025/SPT0101/310250103/WVU-s-move-disappointing-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|UC

Bearcat Otto

10-26-2011, 09:01 AM

Right out of the article....

They were and were not there is the matter of two sentences.

West Virginia, which as reported in yesterday's Post will join the Big 12 in 2013, and Louisville, which is also being eyed by the Big 12, did not attend. It is believed that representatives of the other FBS members – Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Rutgers and South Florida were at the Washington meeting

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/football/big_east_to_offer_invitations_to_UrBXmt748ilkyfwbS 9KsNK#ixzz1btOAiTvl

ucfan34

10-26-2011, 01:11 PM

Stole this from another thread. Would explain why Louisville wasn't there.

It could end up being UofL in the Big XII first...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/sports/ncaafootball/big-12-may-admit-louisville-not-west-virginia.html?_r=2&ref=ncaafootball

mjv780

10-26-2011, 01:20 PM

If we really want to start reading into things - our new AD mentioned in one interview I read that his ideal day would include having a 'student athlete' graduate and beat Louisville on the same day... I doubt he would be emphasizing that rivalry if they were about to jump to another league where the possibility would arise of the game not being played each year.

Ok, I'll stop grasping at straws here... :-)

ucfan34

10-26-2011, 01:41 PM

...our new AD mentioned in one interview I read that his ideal day would include having a 'student athlete' graduate and beat Louisville on the same day... I doubt he would be emphasizing that rivalry if they were about to jump to another league where the possibility would arise of the game not being played each year.

I'm taking this as confirmation that UC will accompany Louisville to the B12 shortly. :)

Seriously though, does the UC / Louisville moving in tandem bundle have any legs or is this something that's just caught on?

waterhead

10-26-2011, 02:16 PM

I think it would show pretty bad form for the Big 12 to invite WVU and recant...so if UL goes...I wonder if they save face by adding both...along with a 3rd candidate not named BYU to get to 12:) Perhaps the plan was to invite both anyway and move to 12 teams.

It's interesting that our new AD is from the Big 12 and that he mentioned the revenue sharing advantage UC would have if they were in the Big 12??? I am not sure I would recommend that type of talk since we are still in the Big East...unless he knows something that we don't.

#41

10-26-2011, 02:30 PM

I'm taking this as confirmation that UC will accompany Louisville to the B12 shortly. :)

Seriously though, does the UC / Louisville moving in tandem bundle have any legs or is this something that's just caught on?

I'm sure both would like the idea of moving together, but either one would gladly sell the other out for a lifeboat out of the Big East.

ucfan34

10-26-2011, 04:07 PM

I'm sure both would like the idea of moving together, but either one would gladly sell the other out for a lifeboat out of the Big East.

It makes sense, but I've not seen anything that indicates either school has actually stated or hinted at this.

Louisville is my favorite rivalry, but I'd happily wave goodbye for a B12 invite.

bcbearcat12

10-26-2011, 09:36 PM

Big B

10-26-2011, 10:57 PM

Watching the pitt game and a report came across the screen saying boise st interim ad asked big west conference if they would be able to.join for all sports other than if they joined the big east for football

Here's that

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7153316/boise-state-bronocs-discussing-move-big-west-conference-non-football-teams

Big B

10-26-2011, 11:05 PM

Looks like BB coaches are wanting to be heard. Can't tell from article if he's for the B12 though.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7152103/rick-pitino-louisville-cardinals-big-east-add-memphis-tigers-templ

Bearcat Bounce

11-01-2011, 12:02 PM

Big East Could Add Up to Six Teams Today.

http://tracking.si.com/2011/11/01/big-east-could-add-up-to-six-teams-tuesday/?sct=hp_t2_a6&eref=sihp

#41

11-01-2011, 12:33 PM

Big East Could Add Up to Six Teams Today.

http://tracking.si.com/2011/11/01/big-east-could-add-up-to-six-teams-tuesday/?sct=hp_t2_a6&eref=sihp

The Big East is like a bad action movie villain -- you keep pumping it full of bullets and it refuses to die.

cpawstoney

11-01-2011, 03:03 PM

College Football: Parity, Not Defections, Killing Big East

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/920743-college-football-parity-not-defections-killing-big-east

Surprisingly, the fate of the football-playing schools may be determined by something other than comically bad management.

The imminent fall of Big East football may be the result of parity.

College football, like it or not, has been built on dynasties.

ucfan34

11-01-2011, 04:55 PM

Looks like official invites have been sent out (unofficially).

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7177969/big-east-invite-six-football-according-report

True Bearcat

11-01-2011, 07:06 PM

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/33074577

Official Friday?

GoCats1994

11-02-2011, 11:48 AM

swilsonsp4

11-02-2011, 12:33 PM

So... If I have this right, are we looking something like this?

East division
Central Florida
Cincinnati
South Florida
Connecticut
Rutgers
Navy

West Division
Air Force
Boise State
BYU???
Louisville
Houston
Southern Methodist

According to the Idaho Statesman, the alignment wouldn't include BYU, but most likely either Memphis or Temple. Those schools probably couldn't be offered an invitation until after the WVU situation is cleared up.

Also, the article says that BSU's situation will be discussed at a state board of education meeting on Thursday, at which time a decision could be made.\

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/11/02/1862456/one-step-closer.html

bearcat25

11-02-2011, 12:35 PM

Or....

West
Boise St.
Air Force
Houston
SMU
UC
L'Ville

East
UConn
Rutgers
UCF
USF
Navy
Temple/Villanova

#41

11-02-2011, 01:23 PM

Or....

West
Boise St.
Air Force
Houston
SMU
UC
L'Ville

East
UConn
Rutgers
UCF
USF
Navy
Temple/Villanova

You'd be putting your 4 best teams in the west under that alignment.

bearcat25

11-02-2011, 01:40 PM

^Agree, but is there any other way of dividing it up? We really don't have the luxury the Big 10 or ACC have (where geography/travel is a non-issue).

Helicopter

11-02-2011, 01:46 PM

Div A
Boise St.
Air Force
Houston
SMU
UCF
USF

Div B
UCONN
Rutgers
Nova/Temple
Navy
UC
UL

bearcatd

11-03-2011, 07:20 AM

So, after sleeping on this for a couple of nights and chilling out a little, I've come to a comfort level with this league, with two large "ifs":

- If this is the best we can do, meaning that there is no possibility of being invited to a more stable conference or adding marquee "big time" programs, then the configuration isn't bad. The programs are solid, up and comers, that we should fit in well with. There are no slam-dunk, marquee teams that we could invite, although Boise is pretty close to that based on performance.

- If nobody else leaves (big fat IF), this could develop into a nice conference. I like sticking with Louisville (not kidding myself, they aren't "taking" us anywhere if they go) as we do have a nice rivalry with them - with their fan base/entire city support, their stadium and their AD, they probably should be the cream of the Big East crop. Rutgers should be better than they are and UCONN is solid. USF has to be breathing a sigh of relief. I feel bad for them because they were not mentioned in any realignment scenario. Then again, UC might have been in the same situation with USF as we were mentioned but more as a 2nd tier candidate. I like Boise, UCF and Houston. I don't understand the service academies - other than adding them to add the Armed Forces Network and some national exposure, but they don't have the potential to recruit at the highest BCS level. SMU to me is just a throw in for the Dallas market - maybe I will be surprised.

Who knows what will happen if the ACC or Big 12 gets an itch to expand. I think UC and UofL could be new markets for the ACC too...I read somewhere where they wouldn't mind expanding their footprint, but then again I've read a lot of crap over the past year or so. I like that the ACC requires all money evenly. I still wouldn't mind a Big 12 invite (not necessarily over the ACC) but have a hard time with such a disparity between Longhorn money vs. everybody else. I like that Dr. Williams is pushing to be AAU eligible and Whit Babcock will hopefully step the Athletic Department another level.

Bottom line - I'm ok with the new look of the Big East, assuming (arse-u-me) the IFs happen. The new look doesn't have the draw that schools from the Big 12 or ACC, or even Pitt, WVU or Syracuse have, but they are much better than the old C-USA matchups we used to have. The future of the Big East looks....we'll see.

coach

11-03-2011, 10:19 AM

Actually the service academies have become much more competitive recently. Just ask notre dame, whom everyone wants.

swilsonsp4

11-03-2011, 04:15 PM

Boise definitely wants in. Now, it's up to the Idaho Bd of Ed. The article below doesn't mention this, but one of the potential hangups is that IBE also controls the U of Idaho, which is in the WAC. They are concerned about the Vandals' future and will have to weigh how they believe blowing up the MWC (which is going to raid the WAC again) will impact their only other FBS program.

http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2011/11/03/bmurphy/kustra_address_state_board_education_phone_todays_ meeting

Lobot

11-03-2011, 04:49 PM

smcdonald5

11-03-2011, 06:14 PM

#41

11-03-2011, 09:11 PM

According to media types, Boise St.'s acceptance is contingent on having a western partner or two to cut down on travel. Apparently we are negotiating with several western teams who no one can name but every assumes is BYU +1.

The only two schools that make sense are BYU and Colorado State, IMO. I think adding someone like Fresno really makes the whole thing a joke travel-wise.

waterhead

11-04-2011, 08:26 AM

I would be shocked if BYU were added. Maybe SMU and Houston are "west enough"?

waterhead

11-04-2011, 08:27 AM

The only two schools that make sense are BYU and Colorado State, IMO. I think adding someone like Fresno really makes the whole thing a joke travel-wise.

"Kustra told the state board -- and board members agreed -- that the formation of a Western division is essential to joining the conference. Kustra suggested that SMU, Houston, Air Force and one other western school could make up that division. He declined to identify any other western schools that are now in talks with Big East officials."

chase1050

11-04-2011, 10:31 AM

I would be shocked if BYU were added. Maybe SMU and Houston are "west enough"?

Two days ago I would have said the same thing. I've since talked with a couple of people with BYU connections. They say that going independent was a desperation play. They would actually like to be in a conference, be that the BE or the Big 12.

cpawstoney

11-04-2011, 10:42 AM

UCF may accept Big East invitation next week, could resume USF series early

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-11-03/sports/os-ucf-usf-big-east-expansion-20111103_1_usf-series-ucf-president-john-hitt-conference-usa

UCF President John Hitt said he would be surprised if the Knights formally joined the Big East Friday, but he expects the school to resolve all conference affiliation questions within the next week.

Hitt said in an exclusive interview with the Orlando Sentinel he does not think UCF will compete in the Big East until the 2013 season, but the Knights could restart their football rivalry with USF next season.