McClain to visit next weekend (Apr 20th)

[Thegreatone]

He is going to visit next weekend, I just got the word. I am positive on this information.

[Bearcat Revival]

Hopefully, it'll be for a "just to be sure" visit right before he commits. Then, he needs to get good news on his ACT

[IKnowMoreThanYou]

McClain news will be good news and rumors on the street have some more good news on the horizon in the form of a few 2008 commits. The only question is how many scholarships the 'Cats have for 2008, 5 or 6?

[bearcatfaithful]

would that be possible news on dequan jones and teondre williams?

[IKnowMoreThanYou]

Possible news on one of the two but there were other targets who provide relief for more adequate needs if you catch my drift. I hate to be vague but saying more could compromise these developments.

[ralph1950]

I am happy that there are developments.

Possible news on one of the two but there were other targets who provide relief for more adequate needs if you catch my drift. I hate to be vague but saying more could compromise these developments.

[MikeInClifton]

Possible news on one of the two but there were other targets who provide relief for more adequate needs if you catch my drift. I hate to be vague but saying more could compromise these developments.

"Teasing" is against this board's policy (http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=111). If you know something, you must say it. You are not allowed to say "I can't reveal his name. . . . " or be purposefully vague.

This is your second offense.

All: If you cant reveal a name, source or piece of info, don't say it is known to you unless you are comfortable revealing it completely.

[bcatwilly]

"Teasing" is against this board's policy (http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=111). If you know something, you must say it. You are not allowed to say "I can't reveal his name. . . . " or be purposefully vague.

This is your second offense.

All: If you cant reveal a name, source or piece of info, don't say it is known to you unless you are comfortable revealing it completely.

Mike/Mods, unless somebody is slandering, using profanity etc. then part of the fun and why many of us come on message boards is to hear rumors, just my 2 cents.

[richard k.]

I'm with Mike in this regard - when this Forum was founded one of the premises was that factual information was exchanged and opinion proferred based on fact. It was not web based as we all know, the e-mail format kept membership fairly closed and if you go back in time you would find that there was no wild speculation, innuendo or, for that matter, rumors. To be blunt if you have information and are willing to share it, fine, by all means we would all love to read it. But if you can't say anything other than give vague hints, heck that's not helpful to a factual understanding of UC athletics.

[MicksTheGuy]

Actually I am with Willy on this one. I don't mind the "Tease" it is part of the fun. With that said I wish we had an accuracy meter for some of these guys who make predictions like this. Then it would allow me to better gauge how good the information is. If I wasn't so lazy I would create a website with such a feature.

[DemoEngr]

Go to the other bbs board if you want the tease. It gets old in a hurry. Stay the course Mike. Next thing you know we will see links to pay sites with the tease.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I'm with Mike in this regard - when this Forum was founded one of the premises was that factual information was exchanged and opinion proferred based on fact. It was not web based as we all know, the e-mail format kept membership fairly closed and if you go back in time you would find that there was no wild speculation, innuendo or, for that matter, rumors. To be blunt if you have information and are willing to share it, fine, by all means we would all love to read it. But if you can't say anything other than give vague hints, heck that's not helpful to a factual understanding of UC athletics.

Bingo. Bearcat News is different (MUCH better) than the other message boards.

[bearcatd]

I don't think Mike was asking for opinions on this one. These are the rules of the board and they probably won't change. Like Bearcat Fan, I don't think this is a bad thing. It keeps the junk on other boards.

[MicksTheGuy]

Are you guys nuts? So you want like 5 post a month? I don't care for the 100's of post like when we had Bob getting fired but I do care for some sort of news. It keeps hopes alive. In the last month we have had 10 post in the recruitment section of Bearcatnews. Several are to a pay site to get the news. What good is it to have insider information if you are not going to mention it? What is the reason for a message board again? Do you guys like rehashing the same Bob vs Nancy arguments?

[MicksTheGuy]

I love this board but I have to believe it is starting to fall behind some other boards. If you want to be some sort of elitest board then feel free to do so I guess. I've been on this board for a ton of years (under different names). I stopped getting the emails sent to my email account because at one point they were overwhelming. However, now they seem just about right. I can understand wanting to stop the Huggins talk because he is no longer our coach but I have no problem with a little insider information. Maybe you could have a code word like the OT for those who don't care to read those messages or a different section for rumors. Whatever, you do, stop trying to censor everything.

[SLMadiCat]

If it was a tease from Mike, I'd be ok with it since I'm sure he has some credible sources, but coming from someone with a name of iknowmorethanyou who never holds themselves accountable for when their wrong, thats when its a problem. I'm sure we all know who this person is, probably the same person who said on the ncaabbs that "expect a verbal from a big guy within two weeks that will shock everyone". Well, that was about 3 months ago and I never saw them own up to it. Then when they finally get one right they will brag about it and pimp their pay site on here.

[London 'Cat]

"Insider information" is meaningless in the form in which it has been provided here. If you cannot reveal your source or ALL of the facts, then the validity of the information is questionable, in my opinion. The moderators of this forum want facts, not rumors or speculation or conjecture, etc. And they have the absolute unimpeded right to enforce their rules. If you do not like the way the rules are enforced or applied, then don't post here. If you choose to violate the rules, then you will be subject to the penalties and consequences of your choice.

[Thegreatone]

If it just about straight facts we could just read the Enquirer, the fun part is being ahead of the game. Some people hear stuff and it doesnt follow through, but sometimes it does. To me the speculation and rumors are half of the fun.

[jplog]

I don't have a problem with the posting of recruiting rumors if their done with an honest intent. If only factual, confirmed info was posted here then why bother posting or reading here. You could just wait for the blurb in the local paper. The "inside scoop" is why most of us read this site so often. If this guy is wrong then we'll know better next time.

[ralph1950]

A lot of the readers of this board are not here for "fun" they are here for "correct information". Get your kicks on Route 66 not bearcatnews.com.

If it just about straight facts we could just read the Enquirer, the fun part is being ahead of the game. Some people hear stuff and it doesnt follow through, but sometimes it does. To me the speculation and rumors are half of the fun.

[kennh]

The street name for IKnowMoreThanYou has to be a former WLW talk show host who loves to spread rumors (whether they are accurate or inaccurate). Some people just need to create controversy.

[jeffto]

IKMTY always leaves us with more questions than answers. If you can't names than knowing more than me is useless to me. I cannot process phrases like: "rumors on the street have some more good news on the horizon in the form of a few 2008 commits" What the heck does that mean? Of course there's good news on the horizon, but the horizon could be an hour or a year.

Please give us news or give us nothing.

[Nator]

I've always enjoyed reading both the facts and the speculation. I see nothing wrong with posting less than proven information as long as its presented as such. Over time you learn who gets it right more often than others and pay more attention to those in the know.

On the flip side, There are a few who state things as facts when they are obviously speculation and opinion and many times without even an attempt to support them. I've enjoyed whoever it is who has been going through the archives and calling people out on their past statements of fact.

...MT
(very long-time web archive lurker but now they have gone and made it easy to participate)

[Catmandu]

I've always enjoyed reading both the facts and the speculation. I see nothing wrong with posting less than proven information as long as its presented as such. Over time you learn who gets it right more often than others and pay more attention to those in the know.

On the flip side, There are a few who state things as facts when they are obviously speculation and opinion and many times without even an attempt to support them. I've enjoyed whoever it is who has been going through the archives and calling people out on their past statements of fact.

...MT
(very long-time web archive lurker but now they have gone and made it easy to participate)

holy c _ _ p **** must have frozen over.

I think you get the "longest lurker never posted" award though!
now I'm gonna have to listen to your crap on here!:D
How's atlanta?

[Nator]

Dan...we are doing very well and hope you and yours can say the same. Yep...no more emailing Jon asking him to straighten you out (although I see he comes to that conclussion on his own quite often) or waiting for the 4 times I see you in person a year to re-argue a point you made here months ago.

McClain question....What does the CW say on how long he will stay in college? I realize there are many unknowns but is he generally considered a candidate for early entry?

[IKnowMoreThanYou]

McClain has the look of someone who can play at the next level but most recruiting experts agree his defense is ahead of his offense. By taking at least three years in college to work on developing his offense and putting on solid muscle he would do his wonders for his draft stock.

I think in terms of build he is a lot like former UConn huskie Hilton Armstrong in that he's long, athletic and can run the floor for a big guy but needs to develop his offense. Armstrong was a 1st round pick last year and if McClain can develop under that kind of progression he could be in the league. Athletic near 7 footers are always in demand.

To answer some of the speculation I have never worked WLW nor do I work for any other publication related to Cincinnati basketball or athletics.

If you have specific questions you want answered just ask...

[jon b]

holy c _ _ p **** must have frozen over.

I think you get the "longest lurker never posted" award though!
now I'm gonna have to listen to your crap on here!:D
How's atlanta?

You'll have to correct him again since Nator has posted before even if it was MANY years ago. It just never ends. :D :D

As for "rumors", there is a big difference between something with info: "McClain to visit this weekend" versus "Good news on the horizon".

Ultimately, I think those who post more facts will eventually be rewarded with more leeway, just like we do in all aspects of our life. We listen to those who have earned the right by being right. But we don't need vague Nostradomusesque stuff:

A great man had a ball
he came to UC
When Jupiter entered Saturn
Trophies were held high

Jon, eventually knowing I have to be right!

[Josh Rexhausen]

If you have specific questions you want answered just ask...

What is your real name (does it rhyme with Hal), or at least what email address(es) did you use? Oh and, are those Bugle Boy Jeans you're wearing?

[IKnowMoreThanYou]

What is your real name (does it rhyme with Hal), or at least what email address(es) did you use? Oh and, are those Bugle Boy Jeans you're wearing?

I prefer to remain anonymous, it does not rhyme with Hal and my email address could be traced to my identity. Here is what you need to know. The story finally broke on Gates' press conference where he will announce for UC after weeks upon weeks of speculation pointing to that fact. The story also broke about Bost and if he gets offered for 2008 he will be the third member of the class.

I'd put good odds on the final 2 members of the recruiting class being two of these three players: Paul Williams, Teondre Williams, Dennis Harris and J'Mison Morgan.

[ctipton]

I prefer to remain anonymous, it does not rhyme with Hal and my email address could be traced to my identity. Here is what you need to know. The story finally broke on Gates' press conference where he will announce for UC after weeks upon weeks of speculation pointing to that fact. The story also broke about Bost and if he gets offered for 2008 he will be the third member of the class.

I'd put good odds on the final 2 members of the recruiting class being two of these three players: Paul Williams, Teondre Williams, Dennis Harris and J'Mison Morgan.

I realize I'm not particularly quick, but didn't you just name four players?
two of these three players:confused:

[ralph1950]

I should have read your post before I bet the money I do not have on West Virginia.

[Kindog202]

Hey Iknow, who is Bost that you mention in your previous post. Never heard of the kid before...Any info on him you can provide (i.e. position, stats, where he's from, etc.) Thanks

[BigCatFan20]

I prefer to remain anonymous, it does not rhyme with Hal and my email address could be traced to my identity. Here is what you need to know. The story finally broke on Gates' press conference where he will announce for UC after weeks upon weeks of speculation pointing to that fact. The story also broke about Bost and if he gets offered for 2008 he will be the third member of the class.

I'd put good odds on the final 2 members of the recruiting class being two of these three players: Paul Williams, Teondre Williams, Dennis Harris and J'Mison Morgan.

So is Gates suppost to do this tomm like the other topic says??

[ctipton]

Hey Iknow, who is Bost that you mention in your previous post. Never heard of the kid before...Any info on him you can provide (i.e. position, stats, where he's from, etc.) Thanks


http://eteamz.active.com/concordspiderbasketball/roster/index.cfm?season=441937&sport=2&id=6164505


http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=53820&sport=2

http://northcarolina.ihigh.com/articles/ncprepscom_allstate_boys_baske

"Recruiting analyst Bob Gibbons calls Bost, a 6-foot-2 guard, an ACC-level talent. "

"A Skyland Roberson player stole a pass and had a 10-yard lead on Bost at half court. Bost caught him in four strides, leaping near the top of the white square on the backboard to block the shot. On the other end, same sequence, Bost made a soft floater in the paint over three defenders."

"They helped Concord nearly beat national power Oak Hill (Va.) Academy. Afterward, Oak Hill coach Steve Smith told Gibbons that Bost was as good a guard as he'd seen this year."

"About the only thing in question for Bost is college. He says Cincinnati will take him if he qualifies academically. If he doesn't, he plans one year of prep school not too far from home."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/133/story/45067.html

[Kindog202]

Thanks ctipton, the kid looks to be a player, only problem is it looks as though he is '07 or is he going to get re-classified. I'd much rather have McClain over him if he is an '07 kid.

Also, what's the story w/Chris Wyse out of Toledo, I know he re-classified to '08, haven't heard much recent news on him. Are we still actively recruiting him?

[MikeInClifton]

Also, what's the story w/Chris Wyse out of Toledo, I know he re-classified to '08, haven't heard much recent news on him. Are we still actively recruiting him?

Yes, but a lot of guys are being actively recruited. . . .

[shaunsimpson]

Back to McClain here with a question.

Gates' guardian said he gets to play his natural postion as a PF. Does this imply that we will be getting a center in the near future and that Mick told them something that we don't know yet?

[GoBearcats31]

The quote was: "Yancy likes the incoming prospects like Anthony McClain and the chance they have of landing him. "That gives Yancy the chance to play his true position which is power forward."

He likes the chance of landing him, which would allow him to play at PF. I dont think there is anything done yet, although I'm optimistic/hopeful about McClain

[Thegreatone]

McClain is looking good in my eyes, whether we get him or not I believe that Gates is far more important. I still think we are going to land him, I said 95% he was coming and I remain by my statement. He will announce it soon, I really think he is going to let Gates enjoy this week and make his anouncement next week.

[Kindog202]

I really hope so, this stuff about Georgetown scares me and it seems like a good fit. Let's hope Mick is in good enough with him and JTIII is not.

[waterhead]

If the person with the rumors has a good track record then why not. If they don't have a good track record then nobody will listen anyway. Are there any legalities (ncaa regulations) for releasing underground recruiting info? What if there was an area on the website called Recruiting Rumors:)

[DMoney_70]

What I find interesting is that rivals has McClain in a 2 team race. They only list Conneticut and Cincinnati. If that's true (big if) then we can take the comment from the Conneticut paper that said he would soon be committing to another school as meaning Cincinnati.

Let's hope so.

[waterhead]

Is that next weekend as in this weekend or next weekend as in the following weekend?

[BigCatFan20]

Just wanted to throw it out there, I think Mick is getting help with McClain from UC fans on McClains facebook page.

"got to give it up for uc,, they have a great tradition which would suit you the best..... go Bearcats!"

"UC Bearcats! thats where its at man...mick cronin is the truth"

Cincy starting line-up in 2008
1. Vaughn (Jr)- All BE frosh
2. Henry (So)- top 50 player
3. Wilkes (Fr)- top 50...will be top 30 after this summer
4. Gates (just committed, Fr)- 5 star McD AA
5. You (as a SO, hopefully)

Cincy is building a dynasty, are you in or out? You and Gates could be the next Green and Hibbert...

"that lineup sounds sick, mick is the real deal"

Those are a few of the messages I found on there, I guess it can't hurt any.

[Thegreatone]

I am a college kid and I am apart of the group Mick Cronin A new era begins (or something like that) and I was interested in seeing he was also a member of that group.

[levydl]

Just wanted to throw it out there, I think Mick is getting help with McClain from UC fans on McClains facebook page.

"got to give it up for uc,, they have a great tradition which would suit you the best..... go Bearcats!"

"UC Bearcats! thats where its at man...mick cronin is the truth"

Cincy starting line-up in 2008
1. Vaughn (Jr)- All BE frosh
2. Henry (So)- top 50 player
3. Wilkes (Fr)- top 50...will be top 30 after this summer
4. Gates (just committed, Fr)- 5 star McD AA
5. You (as a SO, hopefully)

Cincy is building a dynasty, are you in or out? You and Gates could be the next Green and Hibbert...

"that lineup sounds sick, mick is the real deal"

Those are a few of the messages I found on there, I guess it can't hurt any.

Um, it may be a recruiting violation, so it can hurt. The same thing occurred with Pattrick Patterson and UK fans, I believe.

[Josh Rexhausen]

George Vogel on Channel 5 just stated the obvious on McClain, "It's believed to be down to UC, UCONN and G-town." Gee, thanks for the news.

[Josh Rexhausen]

Someone read this for me, I keep skipping over the "if" when I read it.

Post Article (http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070417/SPT0201/704170335/1016)

He has momentum now, with a nice 2007 class in place and Gates in the vanguard of a next-year group that, as the recruit attributed to the recruiter, "will probably be his strongest class coming in." He will have even more momentum if, as a birdie mentioned Monday, Gates' commitment dovetails into another, as soon as Wednesday, from 6-11 senior Anthony McClain of Maryland.

If that occurs, it will be in the form of an actual signing, and Cronin will be permitted and more than happy to comment. By NCAA rule, he was unable to do that Monday, when Gates put on a C-paw cap and talked about what the coach talked about to him, which was being a big part of the rebuilding that's going on at UC. In point of fact, he's a big part of it already.

[MikeInClifton]

Um, it may be a recruiting violation, so it can hurt. The same thing occurred with Patrick Patterson and UK fans, I believe.

It is a recruiting violation, although hard to prove.

My feeling is if Mick is this close to McClain without anyone help from fans, why would fans try this idea and possibly screw it up?

[MikeInClifton]

(Edited the title of this thread and added "Apr 20th" to better reflect the writer's intention. I personally do not have confirmation that McClain will definitely be visiting any given weekend)

[ME80]

It is a recruiting violation, although hard to prove.

My feeling is if Mick is this close to McClain without anyone help from fans, why would fans try this idea and possibly screw it up?

If something like this is perceived as a recruiting violation it would be interesting to see the ramifications of such a decision. What would keep me from claiming to be a UConn fan and emailing every one of their recruits. Pandora's box in my opinion.:eek:

[CroninCrazy]

A little bit OT, but I saw someone else mention it. Facebook has a UC group entitled: "I Support Mick Cronin" for UC people only. Currently there are 677 members.

[MikeInClifton]

What would keep me from claiming to be a UConn fan and emailing every one of their recruits. Pandora's box in my opinion.:eek:

. . .and that was my point in saying it is 'hard to prove'.