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MikeInClifton
04-13-2007, 06:27 PM
Since this has more to do with NCAA Grad Rates than the game of basketball, I decided to put it on the General Forum. Plus its historical, not current.

Someone posted the current roster for the Bearcats basketball team on Yappi (http://www.yappi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2457532&postcount=152)and made some good comments about how the current team would fare under the old NCAA rules.


If Mick's 2006-07 team was being evaluated by the NCAA for graduation rates (as UC teams in the past), the UC graduation rate would be horrible. Remember, over Huggins' tenure TRANSFERS did not count. Look at the UC roster below (2006-07 team) and tell me what the graduation rate would be if everyone on the roster counts as a participant (except for Barwin) and TRANSFERS do not count on the graduation rate?

*Ronald Allen SR (NCAA exemption--Hurricane Katrina)
#Connor Barwin SOPH (#Football; doesn't count towards basketball)
Timmy Crowell JR JUCO
Marvin Gentry JR JUCO
*Walter Lewis JR HIGH SCHOOL
Cedric McGowan SR JUCO
*Branden Miller SOPH (Walk-On)
Marcus Sikes JR JUCO
*Deonta Vaughn FR HIGH SCHOOL (Prepped at Harmony Community)
Jamual Warren JR JUCO
Mike Williams JR TRANSFER
John Williamson JR JUCO
*counts toward graduation rate

What this says is that under the old method only four players would have had a chance to be counted, and two of the four are Walk-on's.
If any of the transfer players finished their eligibility with 4.0 GPA's, it wouldn't have mattered to the NCAA.

Its a good example of how the old method was sooo unfair to schools with many transfers.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
04-13-2007, 10:44 PM
Since this has more to do with NCAA Grad Rates than the game of basketball, I decided to put it on the General Forum. Plus its historical, not current.

Someone posted the current roster for the Bearcats basketball team on Yappi (http://www.yappi.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2457532&postcount=152)and made some good comments about how the current team would fare under the old NCAA rules.


If Mick's 2006-07 team was being evaluated by the NCAA for graduation rates (as UC teams in the past), the UC graduation rate would be horrible. Remember, over Huggins' tenure TRANSFERS did not count. Look at the UC roster below (2006-07 team) and tell me what the graduation rate would be if everyone on the roster counts as a participant (except for Barwin) and TRANSFERS do not count on the graduation rate?

*Ronald Allen SR (NCAA exemption--Hurricane Katrina)
#Connor Barwin SOPH (#Football; doesn't count towards basketball)
Timmy Crowell JR JUCO
Marvin Gentry JR JUCO
*Walter Lewis JR HIGH SCHOOL
Cedric McGowan SR JUCO
*Branden Miller SOPH (Walk-On)
Marcus Sikes JR JUCO
*Deonta Vaughn FR HIGH SCHOOL (Prepped at Harmony Community)
Jamual Warren JR JUCO
Mike Williams JR TRANSFER
John Williamson JR JUCO
*counts toward graduation rate

What this says is that under the old method only four players would have had a chance to be counted, and two of the four are Walk-on's.
If any of the transfer players finished their eligibility with 4.0 GPA's, it wouldn't have mattered to the NCAA.

Its a good example of how the old method was sooo unfair to schools with many transfers.

Deonta Vaughn is the only possible graduate by NCAA method used previously.

Allen, Miller, and Lewis would not count. Allen started at Cal State Fullerton, transferred to JuCo, then to X-New Orleans, finally to UC.