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the_one_32
03-04-2008, 01:15 AM
What is this based on? Just because Mick went to his game thats why he's a 5 now?? Is there something that we dont know that mick and you do know? Anyway hopefully that is true that he is leaning towards UC and his mom loves the coaching staff and everything about UC... but if he signs we DEFINITELY need to sign a big man whether it be keith brumbaugh (whatever his name is) or james tyler (one of the best unsigned big men)....

Scheids21
03-04-2008, 07:08 AM
Why do we definitely need a big man if hopson signs?

red_n_black_attack
03-04-2008, 07:22 AM
Fill those bare cupboards with talent. Hopson is talented.

Kudos to Mick and the coaching staff if he signs (or better yet, decides to walk-on!!)

BEARCATDARRELL
03-04-2008, 07:42 AM
sence he is a 5 now does that mean he is a lock for uc? ( guessing no )
mick mite have been there but i also no the blue guys down south was there
as well .
we need a big man but i hope hop comes here
go cats

Thegreatone
03-04-2008, 08:21 AM
Does anybody know what bearcatlair was saying in their hopson update? was it simply that cronin was there?

Bearcat Revival
03-04-2008, 08:44 AM
Does anybody know what bearcatlair was saying in their hopson update? was it simply that cronin was there?

might have something to do with why Hopson is now a "5"

MikeInClifton
03-04-2008, 08:54 AM
might have something to do with why Hopson is now a "5"

Actually, it didn't. I just now read it after you guys talked about it. I rarely read other Bearcat based sites unless I have a reason to or others mention something of interest. But after reading it, Hopson will remain a '5'.

ralph1950
03-04-2008, 09:29 AM
It could be that the medium rumor is that he has soft verbaled what ever that means. It goes something about announcing his decision at the McDonald's AA game. His mother wants him to go to UC. Billy Gillespie has not signed a contract at UK and will be leaving to take the Oklahoma State job.

Thegreatone
03-04-2008, 09:53 AM
Not sure what all that means with Billy G, but I guess it is possible that Scotty knows and will announce with the bright lights of Mcdonalds AA games. I hope this is the case and I think we have a really really good chance at him.

catscratchfever
03-04-2008, 10:02 AM
sence he is a 5 now does that mean he is a lock for uc? ( guessing no )
mick mite have been there but i also no the blue guys down south was there
as well .
we need a big man but i hope hop comes here
go cats

I'm not usually one to critique grammar...but that was painful to read

Lowkey
03-04-2008, 10:19 AM
sence he is a 5 now does that mean he is a lock for uc? ( guessing no )
mick mite have been there but i also no the blue guys down south was there
as well .
we need a big man but i hope hop comes here
go cats

all you talk about is the "blue guys"....let it go....Kentucky is always a threat to take top recuits, just like Ohio state and Xavier.....just like Lousville and Memphis.... bottom line is UC has a chance. that says alot from where we were 2 years ago.

and even if mick doesnt land another big man, whats wrong with Biggie at 7 foot, Yancy at 6-9, Mike Williams at 6-8 and Belton at 6-8. worst case scenario, thats what were looking at, i'll take it....but im Sure Mick will COme thru with another Big. The BIGEAST makes Centers a must to survive.

Bearcat Revival
03-04-2008, 10:34 AM
and even if mick doesnt land another big man, whats wrong with Biggie at 7 foot, Yancy at 6-9, Mike Williams at 6-8 and Belton at 6-8. worst case scenario, thats what were looking at, i'll take it....but im Sure Mick will COme thru with another Big. The BIGEAST makes Centers a must to survive.


Don't forget about Aldridge in there too. But, Mick will get a big man before this class is finished.

Lowkey
03-04-2008, 10:38 AM
Don't forget about Aldridge in there too. But, Mick will get a big man before this class is finished.

thats right, Aldridge is 6-8 himself right?......does anybody know if Mick is seriously looking at JUCO guys for a bigman.?

since We do have a little depth upfront, i would hope Mick would get a Freshman since he can learn behind the returning guys and not be thrown out there right away, unless of course whoever mick brings in is too talented not to Throw out there immediatley.

BasketBySteveLogan
03-04-2008, 10:58 AM
You dont need THAT many big men in today's game... a great backcourt and wings can win plenty of games as long as the big men can play D and rebound

Obviously a dominant center would be great.. but its rare... and if you look back at most of the teams who make deep runs in the NCAA tourney, they have one thing in common: superb guardplay

and look at what our backcourt is turning into... 2010 Final Four... "yes-suh"

IAMWILLIAMSON
03-04-2008, 11:27 AM
Aldridge is about 6-7 but is known to be more of a bishop type player

IAMWILLIAMSON
03-04-2008, 11:30 AM
and even if mick doesnt land another big man, whats wrong with Biggie at 7 foot, Yancy at 6-9, Mike Williams at 6-8 and Belton at 6-8. worst case scenario, thats what were looking at, i'll take it....but im Sure Mick will COme thru with another Big. The BIGEAST makes Centers a must to survive.


People are under estimating Mike Williams He was rated as high as J'mison Morgan and averaged 5 or 6 points at texas behind p.j tucker and lemarcus aldridge AND brad buckman. I think he can start at PF and score 12-18 ppg

BasketBySteveLogan
03-04-2008, 12:02 PM
Here's some other message board postings about this...

http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=404

BEARCATDARRELL
03-04-2008, 12:15 PM
all you talk about is the "blue guys"....let it go....Kentucky is always a threat to take top recuits, just like Ohio state and Xavier.....just like Lousville and Memphis.... bottom line is UC has a chance. that says alot from where we were 2 years ago.

and even if mick doesnt land another big man, whats wrong with Biggie at 7 foot, Yancy at 6-9, Mike Williams at 6-8 and Belton at 6-8. worst case scenario, thats what were looking at, i'll take it....but im Sure Mick will COme thru with another Big. The BIGEAST makes Centers a must to survive.

I did not say anything about kentucky you did
have a nice day :p

BasketBySteveLogan
03-04-2008, 12:18 PM
Men should not use smiley faces EVER

Come on with that.... good lord... we're BEARCATS

jeffto
03-04-2008, 12:38 PM
Tenn. got a point guard commit today. Daniel West

MikeInClifton
03-04-2008, 02:16 PM
Gentlemen,

Do not post premium material from other websites.

Mick's Da Man
03-04-2008, 02:44 PM
More than likely he ends up at UT. But Hopson's mom likes Mick, so there is still a chance. I hear it's down to UT and UC.

BasketBySteveLogan
03-04-2008, 02:54 PM
Why "more than likely?" Just because Tenn is ranked so high now?

ralph1950
03-04-2008, 03:27 PM
More than likely he ends up at UT. But Hopson's mom likes Mick, so there is still a chance. I hear it's down to UT and UC.


I disagree with your opinion, I say it is now more than likely he becomes a Bearcat.

Bearcat Revival
03-04-2008, 03:44 PM
I disagree with your opinion, I say it is now more than likely he becomes a Bearcat.

Care to share why you believe this?

jlr1523
03-04-2008, 05:54 PM
Just curious to know how we apparently know that Scotty's mom likes UC so much? If she does in fact like Mick and UC, maybe she would be a positive influence on his decision. I must say that I hope its true, but seriously, where the **** does that come from?

jlr1523
03-04-2008, 06:22 PM
Oh yeah. Also, what was that quote regarding Gillespie going to Mississippi St?

Mick's Da Man
03-04-2008, 07:07 PM
Care to share why you believe this?

No I can't. Just saying what I've been told. Feel free to not believe me.

Bearcat Revival
03-04-2008, 07:20 PM
No I can't. Just saying what I've been told. Feel free to not believe me.

I was asking Ralph. Not disputing what you said.

ralph1950
03-04-2008, 08:00 PM
I was asking Ralph. Not disputing what you said.


I can believe what I believe same as Mick da man can believe what he believes.

ralph1950
03-04-2008, 08:01 PM
Oh yeah. Also, what was that quote regarding Gillespie going to Mississippi St?


Oklahoma State, Alan Cutler said the rumor on 1530Homer this morning.

bubbachunk
03-04-2008, 08:38 PM
Oklahoma State, Alan Cutler said the rumor on 1530Homer this morning.

gah i hope not!
i need to stop reading these threads and getting my hopes up

jlr1523
03-04-2008, 09:34 PM
Oklahoma State, Alan Cutler said the rumor on 1530Homer this morning.

Speaking of Cutler, i wish he'd go somewhere else too.

TheLivingLegend
03-04-2008, 09:58 PM
Oklahoma State, Alan Cutler said the rumor on 1530Homer this morning.

Ya shocking Culter didnt say he was going to be a Kentucky star... and then continue talking about Kentucky for an hour.

Irishbearcat
03-04-2008, 10:15 PM
Not a big fan of Cutler. I don't like Mo much either (although the back and forth with Doyal was kinda funny). But, there's not much out there at 9-12, so I'm stuck with Mo' MO.

NorrisHopper30
03-04-2008, 10:35 PM
Not a big fan of Cutler. I don't like Mo much either (although the back and forth with Doyal was kinda funny). But, there's not much out there at 9-12, so I'm stuck with Mo' MO.

Weird, I like Mo and Cutler.

Kindog202
03-04-2008, 10:37 PM
Weird, I like Mo and Cutler.

Cutler has grown on me. Mo can be alright sometimes. I also like Mike & Mike.

Irishbearcat
03-04-2008, 10:49 PM
Cutler is ok, don't get me wrong. I don't like his pompousness, but that's just me.

Mo isn't too bad, but he is repetitive. He would be very good with a quality sidekick.

Thegreatone
03-04-2008, 11:12 PM
Cutler loves three things: Cutler, Bengals, Kentucky.

ANy way getting back to hopson, anybody know when he plays? hopefully they lose, i think the more they win the more people in kentucky will pressure him and kentucky's coaching staff to get him. Plus, sense we seem to be high on his lists now a decision soon could be good.

TmacGoCats
03-04-2008, 11:21 PM
ANy way getting back to hopson, anybody know when he plays? hopefully they lose, i think the more they win the more people in kentucky will pressure him and kentucky's coaching staff to get him. Plus, sense we seem to be high on his lists now a decision soon could be good.

This is how he plays

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XgGNkWfciyk

UCBCATS13
03-04-2008, 11:23 PM
Here is something i found on the CBSsportsline board.
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/6783847

Also there was a post on the scout board saying that people down at UK are saying its between UC and UT.

milfordcats
03-05-2008, 12:01 AM
That person is using the listings of who is who on Hopson's intrest list that has been out there for ages. Not that it neccesarily isnt up to date (I hope it is!) but it has been that way for quite awhile...

Also, it is the same for Mackey's intrest level. And I dont think Mick will sign someone with the criminal problems.

Thegreatone
03-05-2008, 09:09 AM
Lets hope not. Any way going back to my original question, does anybody know when Scotty plays again? Not how he plays, rather when he plays again.

TheLivingLegend
03-05-2008, 10:02 AM
Here is something i found on the CBSsportsline board.
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/messages/chrono/6783847

Also there was a post on the scout board saying that people down at UK are saying its between UC and UT.

how is that find even somewhat credible source... RECRUIT is spelled wrong in the title...

IAMWILLIAMSON
03-05-2008, 11:25 AM
Can anybody that is a subscriber to rivals please send us he full story of what it says about hopson


go Cats

milfordcats
03-05-2008, 03:57 PM
Bill Koch stated that he was told that it is down to UC, UT, and Miss. ST. Out of those three I think UC has the best chance at least playing time wise. (Not neccesarily sure about Miss. St, but if he already backed out of the commitment there I dont see why he would go back and plus UC is in a much better confrence than Miss St. equaling more TV time and exposure)

MikeInClifton
03-05-2008, 04:02 PM
Can anybody that is a subscriber to rivals please send us he full story of what it says about hopson


go Cats

No, because its Premium material.

jlr1523
03-05-2008, 04:13 PM
Bill Koch stated that he was told that it is down to UC, UT, and Miss. ST. Out of those three I think UC has the best chance at least playing time wise. (Not neccesarily sure about Miss. St, but if he already backed out of the commitment there I dont see why he would go back and plus UC is in a much better confrence than Miss St. equaling more TV time and exposure)

For as highly a rated player that Hopson is, I doubt playing time would be an issue no matter where he goes. How heavy is he being recruited by UK and UofL? You wouldn't think there would be any way possible for a high school player ranked in the top 10 OVERALL in the class of 08, in the state of KY, to go to ANY other school than UK or UofL. Seriously. How hard is UK going after him? I know UofL is on him. Where does UK stand?

milfordcats
03-05-2008, 04:23 PM
For as highly a rated player that Hopson is, I doubt playing time would be an issue no matter where he goes. How heavy is he being recruited by UK and UofL? You wouldn't think there would be any way possible for a high school player ranked in the top 10 OVERALL in the class of 08, in the state of KY, to go to ANY other school than UK or UofL. Seriously. How hard is UK going after him? I know UofL is on him. Where does UK stand?

If there are previous recruits from previous years that are on the same talent level as he is who were starters returning at his position he might have some trouble getting as much playing time as he wants, something that has been brought up about being a weak point of UT. Coming to UC I do not see any problems with him getting 35+ minutes a game playing time each and every night. Also just because he is from Kentucky doesnt mean he is going to UK or U of L though there is an increased chance of it.

jlr1523
03-05-2008, 05:00 PM
If there are previous recruits from previous years that are on the same talent level as he is who were starters returning at his position he might have some trouble getting as much playing time as he wants, something that has been brought up about being a weak point of UT. Coming to UC I do not see any problems with him getting 35+ minutes a game playing time each and every night. Also just because he is from Kentucky doesnt mean he is going to UK or U of L though there is an increased chance of it.

My point is, NORMALLY Kentucky is good at keeping home grown players in the state. I know that doesn't mean its a sure thing. The fact that there is an increased chance of it is obvious. My question was, how heavy is UK and UofL going after him. I promise that I follow college bball recruiting as closely as anyone else on this site, or at least close to it. Some sources on the net don't even list UK as a school that is in the running. Thats why I was asking how heavy are they recruiting him?

milfordcats
03-05-2008, 05:03 PM
I'm fairly certain that Kentucky came in somewhat late on the recruiting for Hopson and as a result most websites have not updated their information as to who is in on the recruiting and such.

ralph1950
03-05-2008, 05:57 PM
I'm fairly certain that Kentucky came in somewhat late on the recruiting for Hopson and as a result most websites have not updated their information as to who is in on the recruiting and such.


Billy Gillespie has not signed a contract to coach at UK and is rumored to be going to Oklahoma State. Hopson probably would want to know who the coach will be before having interest in UK.

Ding Chavez
03-05-2008, 06:06 PM
According to my friends who went to UK and follow them pretty closely, UK stayed off of Hopson while he was verbally committed to MSU. When he reopened his recruiting, they started after him hard.

jlr1523
03-05-2008, 06:11 PM
Thanks for that bit of info. I was wondering why they haven't been brought up. It's hard to believe they wouldnt be a factor. I want nothing more than to see Hopson in a Bearcat uniform.

dp3113
03-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Billy is not going to Oklahoma State. That rumor amounted from a Fox Sports Reporter saying when UK was struggling early that the OK State job might be open, and maybe Gillespie would feel more comfortable back in the Big 12, and supposedly some alum at OK State was willing to shell out big bucks for a top of the line coach.

I don't think its a coincidence that Gillespie said "we don't recruit committed players" then a few days later on radio, Hopson and his coach formally announced that he is no longer committed to MSU.

I hope to God he comes to UC, but i feel like if UK really gets after him, he will end up there.

jlr1523
03-05-2008, 06:48 PM
Billy is not going to Oklahoma State. That rumor amounted from a Fox Sports Reporter saying when UK was struggling early that the OK State job might be open, and maybe Gillespie would feel more comfortable back in the Big 12, and supposedly some alum at OK State was willing to shell out big bucks for a top of the line coach.

I don't think its a coincidence that Gillespie said "we don't recruit committed players" then a few days later on radio, Hopson and his coach formally announced that he is no longer committed to MSU.

I hope to God he comes to UC, but i feel like if UK really gets after him, he will end up there.

I hate to say it but thats what i'm worried about also. Has he said anything in regards to who HIS favorite is at this point or when he might make a decision?

milfordcats
03-05-2008, 07:12 PM
I heard a rumor that he was going to announce at the McDonalds AA game. Don't know if that is true or not though...

Scheids21
03-05-2008, 10:22 PM
I heard a rumor that he was going to announce at the McDonalds AA game. Don't know if that is true or not though...

Rumor from where?

milfordcats
03-05-2008, 10:32 PM
I honestly can't find where I found that article anymore. This:

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/podcasts_sports/2008/03/recruiting-dont-expect-quick-decision.html

Says he will wait til after his season is over essentially. Sorry I can't find where I read that though...

MikeInClifton
03-05-2008, 11:24 PM
Billy Gillespie has not signed a contract to coach at UK. . .

But neither has Huggs (http://www.dailymail.com/Sports/WVUSports/200802260237) and I dont think either of these coaches will be leaving their current employers.

BEARCATDARRELL
03-06-2008, 07:44 AM
Do you really believe Bud Mackey and Keith Brumbaugh and
Hopson are going to uc ?

Some of you guys need to quit drinking the Kool-Aid

ralph1950
03-06-2008, 08:27 AM
Do you really believe Bud Mackey and Keith Brumbaugh and
Hopson are going to uc ?

Some of you guys need to quit drinking the Kool-Aid

I absolutely believe Hopson will be a Bearcat. If Mackey gets cleared he will also be a Bearcat. Brumbaugh is a no.

bearcat65
03-06-2008, 09:56 AM
I'm not greedy, I'll take Hopson and let someone else have Mackey. Having said that I would love to know how reliable the information is that we have a good shot at Hopson. The things I've read seem to indicate Tennessee is in the best position to land him but I don't have the sources that others appear to have. Love to see him at UC next year, not so sure about Mackey but if Mick thinks it's a chance worth taking then I'm all for it.

Lowkey
03-06-2008, 12:10 PM
Do you really believe Bud Mackey and Keith Brumbaugh and
Hopson are going to uc ?

Some of you guys need to quit drinking the Kool-Aid

i bet you drink BLUE kool-aid.
and no all 3 will not come, realistically, Mackey wont cuz of his legal troubles, Hospon will probably chose another school over UC. and Brumbaugh i have no clue.

best case scenario, Hopson decides to roll in Clifton, solidifying the recruiting class.

jon b
03-07-2008, 09:18 AM
Men should not use smiley faces EVER

Come on with that.... good lord... we're BEARCATS

Ah, but "Men should never tell other Men what to do" supersedes all other rules.

:D

milfordcats
03-08-2008, 12:18 AM
Rivals.com says that Hopson has narrowed his list to five schools, of course you have to be a paying member to read what the five schools are but I assume one of them is UC. I'm guessing UC, UK, UT, Miss St, and U of L?

jkwuc89
03-08-2008, 09:56 AM
I moved the Huggins' posts to the Huggins Catch All thread (http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=967). Please do not post anything more about Huggins on this thread.

jeffto
03-08-2008, 12:18 PM
Rivals.com says that Hopson has narrowed his list to five schools, of course you have to be a paying member to read what the five schools are but I assume one of them is UC. I'm guessing UC, UK, UT, Miss St, and U of L?A lot of chatter with hillbilly accents (said with affection!) saying it's either UK or Tenn. I hope they're wrong.

ralph1950
03-08-2008, 01:51 PM
A lot of chatter with hillbilly accents (said with affection!) saying it's either UK or Tenn. I hope they're wrong.

Everything that I am hearing says they are wrong.

And from the latest heard it from Hoard column:

"Plus, additional highly-rated recruits who can't be mentioned on this website until they've signed letters of intent."

Notice the plural "recruits".

Kindog202
03-08-2008, 02:27 PM
I hope you're right Ralph

Mick's Da Man
03-08-2008, 08:48 PM
I hope you're right Ralph


I hope he is too. I really think Hopson completely changes the offense on this Bearcat team if he decides to come here. He will be the man, along with Deonta. It would also take alot of pressure off of Cash.

But I asked my source again yesterday and it's still like 60%-65% lean toward UT and 35%-40% chance for UC according to my source. But you never know. :D

SLMadiCat
03-08-2008, 09:15 PM
Your source must be good if he can actually break it down into percentages.

MDW79
03-08-2008, 09:37 PM
The comment from Hoard's blog was very intriguing. It mentions all of the positives going into next year (Yancy, Williams, Alridge, Freshman will be sophmores, etc.) then it's says something like additional highly rated recruits that cant be mentioned until their letters are signed. Recruits, plural, and the way it is written is sounds like DH knows something is going down. I'm being way too optimistic but that's gotta mean something right?

JasonS
03-08-2008, 11:12 PM
The comment from Hoard's blog was very intriguing. It mentions all of the positives going into next year (Yancy, Williams, Alridge, Freshman will be sophmores, etc.) then it's says something like additional highly rated recruits that cant be mentioned until their letters are signed. Recruits, plural, and the way it is written is sounds like DH knows something is going down. I'm being way too optimistic but that's gotta mean something right?

Don't forget that one of those is Dion Dixon. Who the other is, we can only hope he is speaking of Hopson. I don't know who the other highly rated recruit would be if it is not Hopson. I am crossing my fingers.

milfordcats
03-08-2008, 11:42 PM
Does anyone have a link for Hoard's blog?

JasonS
03-08-2008, 11:45 PM
Does anyone have a link for Hoard's blog?

I don't have the link but you can find it on Lance's blog

milfordcats
03-08-2008, 11:50 PM
I don't have the link but you can find it on Lance's blog

Do you have that link? Sorry...

JasonS
03-08-2008, 11:56 PM
Do you have that link? Sorry...

No worries...Here you go.

http://gobearcats.cstv.com/ot/dan-hoard-column.html

mboston67
03-09-2008, 08:20 AM
I don't believe Hopson will be attending any school in his home state. Hopefully the state above his, not below.

Thegreatone
03-13-2008, 09:53 AM
I read on another message board that 1530 had a kentucky commentator on and he said he believed Scotty Hopson was a "lock" for UC. Not sure the exact wording, again I didnt hear it and I am sure it isnt worth much but hey sounds good to me.

Lowkey
03-13-2008, 10:30 AM
when is the deadline for players to commit one way or the other? or when do you think hopson will announce it.

jeffto
03-13-2008, 11:18 AM
when is the deadline for players to commit one way or the other? or when do you think hopson will announce it.I believe the deadline is the first day of classes. I think we'll know by the April signing period. Maybe after the state tourney, maybe after the McDonalds game?

BDIAS
03-13-2008, 11:48 AM
Players dont HAVE to commit. They can choose to not sign and just start classes in the fall.

DMoney_70
03-13-2008, 11:51 AM
Which board did you read this about the Kentucky commentator?

Thegreatone
03-13-2008, 12:47 PM
My apoligies! I misread although it isnt what I thought, the person was Alan Cutler whom does some work for UK and is a fan. He lives in Loserville and sees the kid a lot. Sorry for the confusion

DMoney_70
03-13-2008, 01:01 PM
My apoligies! I misread although it isnt what I thought, the person was Alan Cutler whom does some work for UK and is a fan. He lives in Loserville and sees the kid a lot. Sorry for the confusion

So did Cutman say he was going to UC?

Thegreatone
03-13-2008, 01:15 PM
Cutman apparently said he thought UC was going to get him, I didnt hear it but from what I read he said he though Hopson was a "lock" but we all know how wording can be changed.

TheLivingLegend
03-13-2008, 01:54 PM
I am going to predict that he announces at the Mcdonalds AA game he is going to UC

milfordcats
03-13-2008, 03:36 PM
I am going to predict that he announces at the Mcdonalds AA game he is going to UC

Hopefully you are right...

DMoney_70
03-13-2008, 03:54 PM
Cutman apparently said he thought UC was going to get him, I didnt hear it but from what I read he said he though Hopson was a "lock" but we all know how wording can be changed.

I ran this by Alan via email and he said this:

i gave it a quick mention....said it was in the rumor category......i said nothing of strength of where he is going...

have no gut on this one...............

a couple of weeks ago some recruiting guys who follow this more than i do thought he was going to tenn....

scotty told me on camera during the all 'a' tournament at eku that he grew up a uk fan.......

...i hear tenn uk and uc......

BUT I HAVE NOTHING TO PUT ON TV THE WAY I NEED TO ...TO HAVE A legit STORY