Henry and Mitchell

[waterhead]

Some of these newspaper articles are talking as if Henry and Mitchell have signed letters of intent. Do we have them all in now?

I don't know why but I have a better feeling about Mitchell than I do about Henry as far as production. It's based on nothing but a hunch. I am picturing Mitchell as some sort of Buford/Burton mix. I guess I can picture Henry as a Flint/Stokes/White kind of guy.

Anybody who can comment on these two and playing styles?

[Thegreatone]

I think your comparisons and how you feel about what they can bring to the table is due to their body types. Mitchell seems to have more of a "college ready" body.

[waterhead]

I think your comparisons and how you feel about what they can bring to the table is due to their body types. Mitchell seems to have more of a "college ready" body.

You're exactly right...that was how I was basing my opinion. Mitchell looks like he can dish out and take the punishment of Big East basketball and Henry looks a little frail. Looks can be deceiving though and Henry is rated a bit higher so I shouldn't rush to judgement.

[UCamry]

http://gobearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/042007aac.html

They have all signed.....we are going to be bubble team this year boyz and may even sneak in if we can pull some wins in the year end tourney. Depth is the key to the Big East, and we have that.

[CincyBeercat]

Some of these newspaper articles are talking as if Henry and Mitchell have signed letters of intent. Do we have them all in now?

Yes, all the LOI's are signed... (http://gobearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/042007aac.html)

[Bearcat Revival]

I hope Henry is better than Flint/Stokes/White. They were big disappointments in my opinion. Flint and White were McD's All-Americans and were less than impressive during their careers. Stokes was inconsistent.

[waterhead]

I hope Henry is better than Flint/Stokes/White. They were big disappointments in my opinion. Flint and White were McD's All-Americans and were less than impressive during their careers. Stokes was inconsistent.

Yes, I agree, although they were helpful at times they didn't live up to expectations. However, if Henry can play as good as those guys did he will at least be able to contribute 10 points per game with some solid D. Not great but not horrible.

[Eastside_J]

I hope Henry is better than Flint/Stokes/White. They were big disappointments in my opinion. Flint and White were McD's All-Americans and were less than impressive during their careers. Stokes was inconsistent.

You are talking about James White, currently of the San Antonio spurs?

Yeah I am sure Mick would hate for him to be able to come back with a year or two of eligibility. :rolleyes:

[Thegreatone]

That is the point, James White has had more physical ability than any bearcat I can remember. He played well for us, but he could have been great. The exact opposite for my favorite bearcat of all time, Steve Logan. Steve had some physical talent but my god did he get the absolute maximum from it. We would all take James now and anytime but he could have done more IMO.

[waterhead]

Yeah I saw that coming. Nothing wrong with having guys like that on the team. They all contributed very nicely at some point. With all the skills White had and his amazing jumping ability he should have been able to score 15-20 points per game. I like the overacheivers.

White's college production didn't get him into the NBA it was mostly his athletic ability. Without that upside he wouldn't be in the NBA.

[Bearcat Revival]

James White is in the NBA for the exact same reason Ruben Patterson got there: athletic ability. There's nothing wrong with that. But, you can't tell me James White lived up to his McDonald's All-American status. He didn't.

[Aaron]

I hope Henry is better than Flint/Stokes/White. They were big disappointments in my opinion. Flint and White were McD's All-Americans and were less than impressive during their careers. Stokes was inconsistent.

Are you guys serious, did you guys never see James White play college basketball. His senior year he averaged over 16pts a game, thats not counting his rebounds and assists. He was a excellent defender , made clutch shots, and excellent free throw shooter. Thats not counting all the games he had to play PG because UC had no one else to run the show. He scored over 1000 pts in a 3 yr career at UC. He wasn't drafted because he was good dunker. He might of been drafted because of his ability, that was discovered through his college career at UC.

Aaron 96

[waterhead]

Touche' Aaron. This is not a jump on James party. I like James and appreciate his contributions to UC basketball. Maybe he just didn't live up to the expectations of some of us greedy fans who were/are looking for the next UC great. He did a very solid job for UC and is now in the pros. Who cares why.

[cpawfan]

James White is in the NBA for the exact same reason Ruben Patterson got there: athletic ability. There's nothing wrong with that. But, you can't tell me James White lived up to his McDonald's All-American status. He didn't.

White never got to just be a wing player that was allowed to have the game come to him. He always had to do things that weren't in his best personal interest (i.e. draft stock) in order for the team to win. He spent a lot of time playing PG and distributing the ball.

Ruben came into UC not knowing how to deal with a screen from a defender and made his first two NBA rosters because he could defend.

[jplog]

White may have had accomplishments here but, for me, his legacy will be how he let the team down at the end of the year. He and Muhammad kept a truely great bearcat, in Eric Hicks, from ending his career on a high note (an NIT Championship).

[Aaron]

White may have had accomplishments here but, for me, his legacy will be how he let the team down at the end of the year. He and Muhammad kept a truely great bearcat, in Eric Hicks, from ending his career on a high note (an NIT Championship).

You're entitled to your opinion and I can't say I wasn't pissed off at the time, but the university knew White wasn't eligible before the NIT even started. But, White wasn't a selfish player, he had many different roles and pressures on him to perform everynight. Not counting he had to play almost the entire game due to lack of depth after the university decided to cripple the basketball team. Before anyone gets it started, this isn't a Huggs/Nancy/Cronin debate just referring to his senior year. I feel he gave most fans, more than enough effort to prove his McDonald's All-American status. He was a excellent college ballplayer , which put him in the NBA. If even 1 or 2 of these new recruits performs like White did on reg basis, we'll be in the big tourney possibly next year.

Aaron 96

[james jr]

I hope Henry is better than Flint/Stokes/White. They were big disappointments in my opinion. Flint and White were McD's All-Americans and were less than impressive during their careers. Stokes was inconsistent.

I agree that Flint and White did not live up to McD AA expectations but I would have liked to see both of them operate without so much ballhandling responsibility. They would have both benefitted from a pure point guard to distribute the rock to them. This especially applies to Damon as he was forced to play point guard the vast majority of his career. Anyone who saw him play in high school [I did] will attest to his scoring skills which did not materialize as they should have for the Bearcats.

[columbus_bearcat]

Both Mitchell & Henry are still showing up as verbals, its official now.

[MikeInClifton]

They would have both benefitted from a pure point guard to distribute the rock to them. This especially applies to Damon as he was forced to play point guard the vast majority of his career.

This continues to be a forgotten aspect of Damon Flint's career at Cin. He was a natural three man playing point. Flint was a victim of his situation here and I commend him for taking the ball when coach asked him to.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

This continues to be a forgotten aspect of Damon Flint's career at Cin. He was a natural three man playing point. Flint was a victim of his situation here and I commend him for taking the ball when coach asked him to.

Damon scored over 1300 points at UC.

18. Damon Flint 1994-97 127 475 189 1316 10.4

[The Loot Ninja]

White may have had accomplishments here but, for me, his legacy will be how he let the team down at the end of the year. He and Muhammad kept a truely great bearcat, in Eric Hicks, from ending his career on a high note (an NIT Championship).

Funny you bring this up, because that semester I was in a few classes with Jihad and James. I noticed how they would hardly show up for class. When the news came out I wasn't the least bit suprised that they were deemed ineligible.