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jon b
04-24-2007, 09:00 AM
http://gobearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/042307aac.html

I cannot believe I have never heard of Jacky Lee until reading this.

richard k.
04-24-2007, 09:18 AM
You're kidding, right? Of course it helps to have been attending UC, like some of us old folks, when Lee was playing.

jon b
04-24-2007, 09:24 AM
No I am not kidding. I know vitually nothing of UC football before the 70's. So little is written or talked about that I have never heard of Lee. I have heard of O'Brien (?) because he made the kick that won Super Bowl 3 (?). See even there I am uncertain!

Crazy that he was a QB in that many championship games etc. and we have heard virtually nothing. I think one of the reasons we get so little UC football info (especially the past) from local writers is that they do not know anything either and do not want to appear stupid. Whereas I don't mind. :)

The QB I can go the farthest back with (off the top of my head) is Danny McCoin.

richard k.
04-24-2007, 08:49 PM
Next you'll be telling me you never heard of Joe Morrison, who played at about the same time. Before his untimely death I had always hoped that Morrison would return to UC as head coach and bring UC football to the level I wanted it to achieve, or at least to the level he had achieved at South Carolina. Obviously with the conference affiliations at the time he was never interested, and he was long deceased by the time UC joined the BEast (which I always find nerve racking since both he and I were born in the same year). I don't recall any stories about Lee in particular, but one of my room mates once commented that Morrison ruined the 3 on 3 basketball games because no one, but no one, would get in his way when he drove to the basket.

swilsonsp4
04-24-2007, 09:39 PM
I can remember, as a young boy, listening to UC games with my dad while Jacky Lee was QB. I don't recall much about the games. (Age will do that.)

However, UC had a winning record all three years that he started (1957-59), beating Miami twice and XU all three times.

Here's a link to a web site that shows all of UC's FB results since 1954:

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/Cincinnati.htm

For the record, the best QB in UC history was Greg Cook, who played in the late 1960's. His Bengals career ended after one solid year after a shoulder injury. Danny McCoin was a good QB, but he didn't compare to Cook.

jon b
04-25-2007, 10:30 AM
Argh! Cannot believe I forgot Cook at QB, but for the record I never said McCoin was the best, only that I remembered him. He was very good though.

Cook went to our church for awhile when I was younger and had a son the same age as me. His name escapes me though ~35 years later!

Richard, sorry, I do not know Joe Morrison!

richard k.
04-25-2007, 01:44 PM
It says a lot about the state of UC football when even someone as knowledgeable and interested as you didn't know Lee or Morrison. For what it's worth Morrison was a punishing runner, an MVP at UC, a 3rd round draft choice (I wonder how many players in UC history have been drafted higher - is it possible to look that up?) of the NY Giants, had an all-pro type career in the NFL, and after retiring went in to college coaching, where he was highly successful. There probably haven't been more than a handful of UC football players who have had better combined college and pro careers then have Lee & Morrison. I'm not suggesting that either Lee or Morrison were the football equivalent of Oscar, but jeez, considering how few the number of truly outstanding college/pro football players UC has developed it says something really sad that even those in the know didn't know. :(

tophat
04-25-2007, 05:18 PM
I recall seeing Lee lead UC to a win over Miami on Thanksgiving. He was completing passes all over the field. Don't remember the exact year, but I'd guess about 1957.