View Full Version : BE Basketball Schedule (sans dates) released
Cats4Ever
07-02-2008, 01:58 PM
We have a home and home this upcoming year with G'Town, Providence and St. Johns.
Schedule here (http://www.bigeast.org/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=19400&ATCLID=1505292).
Great home schedule of UL, UConn, WVU, ND.
Go Cats!
BearcatRob33
07-02-2008, 02:05 PM
WVU....you know what that means...
Cats4Ever
07-02-2008, 02:08 PM
Means I'm going to be first in line for extra tickets.
Kindog202
07-02-2008, 02:18 PM
Looks like our road schedule is not as difficult as our home schedule
GoBearcats31
07-02-2008, 02:58 PM
From a neutral court standpoint, yes the road slate looks easier, but the fact that UC will be traveling to opposing gyms to play Georgetowm, Marquette, Pitt, Syracuse and Villanova...plus St. John's who beat us last year at the Carnessecca Arena, Providence who could be tough this year, DePaul who has given UC trouble the last two years and USF. Once again, no gimmes in the Big East. I'll take 9-9 any day at this point.
Big Herm
07-02-2008, 03:43 PM
It's really lame that we're not automatically scheduled each year for a home-and-home with Louisville.
Kindog202
07-02-2008, 04:06 PM
It's really lame that we're not automatically scheduled each year for a home-and-home with Louisville.
I agree, they should do home and home's among rivals. Give me Louis., Pitt and Marquette as home and home every year. Or replace Pitt w/WVU:D
mike pinzki
07-02-2008, 04:15 PM
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'd rather us not play home and homes with the same regional teams each year. I think Louisville and WVU and possibly even PITT will still be huge games w/out home and homes each year simply due to our proximaty. In order to make the league seem more connected it's necessary to have home and homes with Syracuse and Providence and UCONN and others, especially with UC, UL and company being new to the league.
Big Herm
07-02-2008, 04:49 PM
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'd rather us not play home and homes with the same regional teams each year. I think Louisville and WVU and possibly even PITT will still be huge games w/out home and homes each year simply due to our proximaty. In order to make the league seem more connected it's necessary to have home and homes with Syracuse and Providence and UCONN and others, especially with UC, UL and company being new to the league.
You've made a good point Mike, these will still be huge games. And I think you're right that the new BEast is lacking a true feeling of unity and a rotating schedule might be just what the doctor ordered to establish new rivalries within the conference. This way, maybe our disconnected-ness will change with time, but I think it might be hindered by the size of the conference. Home-and-homes are an important part of getting to know your rivals' rosters, and 16 teams are a lot to keep track of. Is the BEast just too big? Sometimes I feel like it is.
Of course, I make the time...
ralph1950
07-02-2008, 06:28 PM
Means I'm going to be first in line for extra tickets.
There will not be a line unless you go to a ticket scalper. You will need to be a season ticket holder and UCAT member to get a ticket, same as the XU game. All non season tickets will be sold to UCATS members before any public sale of tickets happens.
juckerrules
07-02-2008, 09:03 PM
You've made a good point Mike, these will still be huge games. And I think you're right that the new BEast is lacking a true feeling of unity and a rotating schedule might be just what the doctor ordered to establish new rivalries within the conference. This way, maybe our disconnected-ness will change with time, but I think it might be hindered by the size of the conference. Home-and-homes are an important part of getting to know your rivals' rosters, and 16 teams are a lot to keep track of. Is the BEast just too big? Sometimes I feel like it is.
Of course, I make the time...
Yes, it is too big - I can't stand the BEast - I wish we had a conference of 8 teams - we'd play them all home and away (14 games) - that would leave plenty of slots for our own regional rivalries (X, Dayton, Miami), a few cupcakes to pad the resume, and some interesting games against strong ooc teams (some big 10, 12, ACC, PAC 10 etc.)
I don't like conferences where it's not equal - if you happen to get 2 games with 3 strong teams one year you get screwed (unless you win them all, of course). I prefer that everyone play the same conference schedule as the other teams - then you have a true conference champ.
bearcated
07-02-2008, 09:20 PM
Yes, it is too big - I can't stand the BEast - I wish we had a conference of 8 teams - we'd play them all home and away
I agree. The current BE is unwieldy, at best. Why would UC play home and home with St J, Providence, and G-town? Losing the home and home with U of L, Marquette, and Depaul is the pits. The whole point of having a few select home and home games is to keep rivalries going. That's what happens when you get no respect in the league.
Bearcat Cafe
07-02-2008, 11:01 PM
Personally, with how much of a grind the conference season is, give me a home and home with USF, St. Johns and Rutgers every year.
Billy Don
07-03-2008, 06:48 AM
Two game's each with Providence, St Johns plus Rutgers, Seaton Hall, South Florida and DePaul and UC has 8 wins in the Big East right there.
Kindog202
07-03-2008, 08:49 AM
You would hope so plus maybe 3-4 wins out of the remaining 11 conference games.
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Physically and talent-wise, they are among the Top 5 in the conference. Where they lack is experience/leadership and cohesiveness. They are a young team and have not played together all that long. You hope that the year of experience and improvement will result in a big jump in the games of the sophomores. Add in an elite level talent like Gates who SHOULD be able to contribute some meaningful production this year as a freshman. If Wright can have a Downey like freshman year (possible, given the amount of time he will see on the floor), I really believe this team has a chance to be the 7th or 8th best team in a loaded BE this year. That should be good enough for a NCAA bid.
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I know things changes, heck last year at this time Williams had not yet sustained his injury. So all we can hope for is that the team continues to improve from now until the end of the season and is not bitten by the injury bug and see where everything shakes out in the end.
Bearcat Jeff
07-03-2008, 09:16 AM
I have already gone on record that I think this team will be the surprise team in the BEast. I also predict that Mick will get his second victory against Xavier.
juckerrules
07-03-2008, 10:17 AM
I have already gone on record that I think this team will be the surprise team in the BEast. I also predict that Mick will get his second victory against Xavier.
I agree..with one huge caveat: if there are no "Mike Williams" type injuries - (meaning a starter on whom we are counting).
I think Williams is a giant factor & have confidence that Gates (with Williams et al.) and Wright will provide the muscle and extra gear of quickness that the team often lacked last year.
Add to that some improved production from last year's players and some contributions (and needed depth) from this year's crop.
I'm going on record saying that UC will finish in the top 6 of the Big East!
(Don't forget that caveat though :-)
Major ----de Coverley
07-03-2008, 11:18 AM
Agree with Jucker.I think the highest probability outcome of the upcoming season resides somewhere between 5th and 12th in conference standings. If UC has a lower than average big east injury impact and a higher than average big east newcomer player impact I could see a 5th to 7th scenario playout. Staying healthy and eligible is the first step. Cash and Gates stepping up big time with Williams is the second.
Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
07-03-2008, 03:51 PM
Two game's each with Providence, St Johns plus Rutgers, Seaton Hall, South Florida and DePaul and UC has 8 wins in the Big East right there.
We were 3-4 vs. those opponents last year.
And people call you a pessimist :p
will not be in her Suite ignoring the game and flapping her mouth.
It means one HOF and 2 future HOF coaches coming to town.
WVU....you know what that means...
SLMadiCat
07-03-2008, 06:37 PM
Pitino is a shoe-in but I think GTIII is a long way from becoming a HOFer. Eventually you may be right, he does have an impressive resume for how young he is.
They get first chance at extras.
Means I'm going to be first in line for extra tickets.
Billy Don
07-06-2008, 11:57 AM
It's really lame that we're not automatically scheduled each year for a home-and-home with Louisville.
For the time being at least ESPN likes the West Virginia, Louisville game home and home best. Big nationwide TV game to bring in the dollars. Huggins versus Pitino!
two future HOF coaches going head to head.
For the time being at least ESPN likes the West Virginia, Louisville game home and home best. Big nationwide TV game to bring in the dollars. Huggins versus Pitino!
ralph1950
07-08-2008, 02:56 PM
two future HOF coaches going head to head.
Wrong on this one, only Pitino is a Hall of Fame coach, BH will never make it in the HOF.
GoCats1994
07-09-2008, 07:31 AM
I can't imagine this league lasting long term.
The men's basketball is ridiculous...and at some point there will be too much backlash from the tourney-caliber schools not making the tourney. The league is just too big and they are not getting enough NCAA bids.
The football conference is too small. They need to look to expand...yet it is not currently possible with the overall size of the league in eveything that is non-football.
For all other sports...simply too much travel for teams not generating any revenue.
At some point, I would imagine the football schools will go one direction while the non-football schools will go the other. Not sure what teams you add to the remaining football conference...but schools like Memphis and Marshall (nice natural rivalry with WVU) come to mind. If 10 is not enough, perhaps they would look at East Carolina or perhaps Southern Miss.
ralph1950
07-09-2008, 09:12 AM
I can't imagine this league lasting long term.
The men's basketball is ridiculous...and at some point there will be too much backlash from the tourney-caliber schools not making the tourney. The league is just too big and they are not getting enough NCAA bids.
The football conference is too small. They need to look to expand...yet it is not currently possible with the overall size of the league in eveything that is non-football.
For all other sports...simply too much travel for teams not generating any revenue.
At some point, I would imagine the football schools will go one direction while the non-football schools will go the other. Not sure what teams you add to the remaining football conference...but schools like Memphis and Marshall (nice natural rivalry with WVU) come to mind. If 10 is not enough, perhaps they would look at East Carolina or perhaps Southern Miss.
Completely disagree on this. The current BE is the best thing that could have happened for all 16 schools. 8 spots in the NCAA tourney last season, every league basketball game is broadcast on one of the ESPN family of networks or CBS or ABC, the football coaches are happy that they only have to beat 7 other teams to get a BCS Bowl and not 11 other teams as in the SEC and Big 12. The current BE setup will be around for a long, long, time.
611116
07-09-2008, 09:50 AM
Wrong on this one, only Pitino is a Hall of Fame coach, BH will never make it in the HOF.
I'm afraid you are wrong on this one...personal behavior has little impact on HOF status--it's about wins and losses...based on that...Bob will be a HOF candidate provided he keeps up his winning %.
SLMadiCat
07-09-2008, 09:56 AM
I think if he wins a NC he'll be in but without that he'll be hard pressed to get in. How many HOF coaches are there with only one final four and no championships?
GoCats1994
07-09-2008, 03:03 PM
Completely disagree on this. The current BE is the best thing that could have happened for all 16 schools. 8 spots in the NCAA tourney last season, every league basketball game is broadcast on one of the ESPN family of networks or CBS or ABC, the football coaches are happy that they only have to beat 7 other teams to get a BCS Bowl and not 11 other teams as in the SEC and Big 12. The current BE setup will be around for a long, long, time.
They have not received 8 bids every season (ex - in '07 the league received 6).
If the league split (example - new league = UC, Louisville, UWV, Syracuse, UConn, Rutgers, Pittsburgh & South FLA...not to mention throwing in Memphis & one other) the networks would also pick up a contract to cover these basketball games live...so this would not weigh in on the decision.
On the football front, the conference does not get the national "respect" having only 8 teams. What does this mean? Not sure exaxctly. Although I do know that one of the ramifications is the (lack of) current quality bowl alliances.
Until I see coaches no longer using these schools as stepping stones into jobs in other leagues, I cannot buy your statement that football coaches are happy. They may be thrilled about the chance to further their career...but it does not look like they are trilled about being in the Big East.
ralph1950
07-09-2008, 07:16 PM
I'm afraid you are wrong on this one...personal behavior has little impact on HOF status--it's about wins and losses...based on that...Bob will be a HOF candidate provided he keeps up his winning %.
BH will never make it without a NC and that will never happen at WVU. Also if you do not think character counts in HOF voting go talk to Barry Bonds and Pete Rose.
MikeInClifton
07-09-2008, 10:06 PM
How many HOF coaches are there with only one final four and no championships?
John Chaney and Lou Carnesecca are two of them off the top of my head and Chaney didnt even get to the Final Four.
Naismith Hall of Fame (http://www.hoophall.com/halloffamers/bhof-halloffamers-category.html#coaches)
611116
07-10-2008, 10:33 AM
Also if you do not think character counts in HOF voting go talk to Barry Bonds and Pete Rose.
2 names blow your theory right out of the water:
Adolph Rupp (UK basketball HOF coach and well-known racist)
Ty Cobb (gifted Detroit Tiger HOF member who was a complete a$$hole)
Sorry!
ralph1950
07-10-2008, 07:44 PM
2 names blow your theory right out of the water:
Adolph Rupp (UK basketball HOF coach and well-known racist)
Ty Cobb (gifted Detroit Tiger HOF member who was a complete a$$hole)
Sorry!
What a useless comparison. Adolf Rupp won 4 National Championships and ty Cobb had 4,191 hits and the all time career batting average, and until Maury Wills came along the all time steals lead. BH ain't won nothing but some C-USA titles.
611116
07-11-2008, 06:13 AM
What a useless comparison. Adolf Rupp won 4 National Championships and ty Cobb had 4,191 hits and the all time career batting average, and until Maury Wills came along the all time steals lead. BH ain't won nothing but some C-USA titles.
I was addressing the character issue...incidentally, John Chaney is no saint either...
STKohls
07-11-2008, 10:14 AM
I was addressing the character issue...incidentally, John Chaney is no saint either...
"no saint" is an understatement. Remember how he barged into John Calipari's post game press conference and threatened to kill him?
611116
07-11-2008, 11:03 AM
"no saint" is an understatement. Remember how he barged into John Calipari's post game press conference and threatened to kill him?
Yup!...Incidentally, Calipari is no saint either (see: Camby, Marcus..services purchased).
Bp4thebest
08-04-2008, 12:04 PM
Does anyone know where we can find a list on non con opponents?
Bearcat Cafe
08-07-2008, 11:08 AM
will not be in her Suite ignoring the game and flapping her mouth.
It means one HOF and 2 future HOF coaches coming to town.
It means a FUBU outfit from Deveros and another 62-39 beat down.
Mick's Da Man
08-07-2008, 12:42 PM
I see 10 conference wins, maybe more.
UC will be a trap game even more this year than last year. There are alot of good teams at the top, and UC will be taken lightly, but shouldn't be.
ralph1950
08-07-2008, 02:08 PM
I see 10 conference wins, maybe more.
UC will be a trap game even more this year than last year. There are alot of good teams at the top, and UC will be taken lightly, but shouldn't be.
If Reik can recover from his injury and play I see a lot more than 10 conference wins, I see a NCAA Championship.
MDW79
08-07-2008, 02:30 PM
If Reik can recover from his injury and play I see a lot more than 10 conference wins, I see a NCAA Championship.
Enough already...even if you truely believe that you've posted it at least 5 times! And Riek is not Greg Oden either, I'm not saying he wont help eventually but there is no comparison. Please offer up something new, or nothing at all.
Mick's Da Man
08-07-2008, 03:25 PM
If Reik can recover from his injury and play I see a lot more than 10 conference wins, I see a NCAA Championship.
You truly are the anti-Billy Don. Everything with him is glass half empty and everything with you is overflowing. :D
SLMadiCat
08-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Enough already...even if you truely believe that you've posted it at least 5 times! And Riek is not Greg Oden either, I'm not saying he wont help eventually but there is no comparison. Please offer up something new, or nothing at all.
Just put him on ignore. I, myself, haven't done that but I know just to ignore everything he writes.
P.S. - I do hope he is right though.
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