Mick on Cutman this morning

[ralph1950]

Mick was on the Cutman Show 1530AM this morning. He said he would be very disappointed if the team does not make the NCAA tourney, said they are striving for the Final 4.

[Scheids21]

This season? Or just in the future?

[BearcatRob33]

That's pretty bold....but I'd rather hear that then hear a coach who expects too little of his team.

[IAMWILLIAMSON]

Nice try but look who is writing it, the person who has never had one truthful post

[Josh Rexhausen]

Mick said you can't place expectations this early. His goal every year is for the team to be the best it can be. If he sets a goal of making the tournament this year, and halfway thought the season it looks like they should make the sweet 16, that goal has to change. So the goal is to be the best team they can be. Please stop ralph wiggum.

Mick also was asked what his starting lineup would be if he had a game in 10 minutes, he said he would run loose ball drills and decide. When pressured he said the seniors because the freshmen haven't been taught how to play defense. He didn't want that to get out to message boards and their friends who would then tell them they aren't going to start. My cat's breath smells like mint.

Ralph there is such a thing as tone, and it is conveyed when speaking and listening, and lost when written and read. Mick did say that, and I believe he was saying who doesn't want to win it all evey year?

[CincyBeercat]

Anyone can listen to it here (10/14 Hour 2) - http://www.1530homer.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=alancutler.xml. Mick is on at around the 19-minute mark.

[bearcatbret]

Remember when Huggins was first hired? He came right out and said we are going to win and we are going to win this year. He said that those coaches who say that we need a 3 year plan or a 4 year plan are just making excuses to lose. Mick had his excuses the last two years but now it is put up or shut up.

[Mick's Da Man]

Remember when Huggins was first hired? He came right out and said we are going to win and we are going to win this year. He said that those coaches who say that we need a 3 year plan or a 4 year plan are just making excuses to lose. Mick had his excuses the last two years but now it is put up or shut up.


Go look at Huggs first and second seasons, and who was on the schedule. Had I just taken over as head coach and knew the schedule, I would have been predicting a winning season too. They didn't play anybody. :D

Anyway, I read the original post of this thread and got all fired up until someone pointed out Ralph posted it. I feel like I got Rick Rolled.

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[TexasBearcat]

Go look at Huggs first and second seasons, and who was on the schedule. Had I just taken over as head coach and knew the schedule, I would have been predicting a winning season too. They didn't play anybody. :D

Anyway, I read the original post of this thread and got all fired up until someone pointed out Ralph posted it. I feel like I got Rick Rolled.

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HAHA I am not falling for that Jessica Alba turn thing!

[Mick's Da Man]

HAHA I am not falling for that Jessica Alba turn thing!


Fall for what? :cool:

blah, blah, blah.......25 words........hehehe......hahaha.......hohoho

[Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick]

Go look at Huggs first and second seasons, and who was on the schedule. Had I just taken over as head coach and knew the schedule, I would have been predicting a winning season too. They didn't play anybody. :D

Not only that, look at the team he had. Granted seven scholarship players wasn't a lot, but it is six more than Cronin inherited.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Go look at Huggs first and second seasons, and who was on the schedule. Had I just taken over as head coach and knew the schedule, I would have been predicting a winning season too. They didn't play anybody. :D

Anyway, I read the original post of this thread and got all fired up until someone pointed out Ralph posted it. I feel like I got Rick Rolled.

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Duke. Louisville. Michigan State. Memphis. Kentucky. Oklahoma. And others.

[Mick's Da Man]

Duke. Louisville. Michigan State. Memphis. Kentucky. Oklahoma. And others.

Nice try.

First season:
Nov. 25th, 1989 Minnesota 66 - 64 W
Nov. 29th, 1989 at UNC Wilmington 66 - 55 W
Dec. 2nd, 1989 Miami (OH) 59 - 63 L
Dec. 16th, 1989 Dayton 90 - 88 W
Dec. 18th, 1989 Southern 83 - 72 W
Dec. 22nd, 1989 Southwestern Louisiana 88 - 89 L
Dec. 23rd, 1989 Portland 75 - 53 W
Dec. 28th, 1989 Creighton 60 - 58 W
Dec. 29th, 1989 Duke 83 - 95 L
Dec. 30th, 1989 Rutgers 79 - 71 W
Jan. 4th, 1990 at Louisville 71 - 66 W
Jan. 6th, 1990 Coastal Carolina 72 - 73 L
Jan. 8th, 1990 at Toledo 72 - 84 L
Jan. 11th, 1990 Florida State 82 - 62 W
Jan. 13th, 1990 at South Carolina 53 - 59 L
Jan. 18th, 1990 Morehead State (KY) 68 - 61 W
Jan. 20th, 1990 at Virginia Tech 62 - 59 W
Jan. 22nd, 1990 at Arkansas State 65 - 66 L
Jan. 25th, 1990 Tulane 73 - 64 W
Jan. 27th, 1990 Southern Miss 76 - 83 L
Jan. 31st, 1990 at Xavier (OH) 88 - 90 L
Feb. 3rd, 1990 at Memphis 64 - 82 L
Feb. 5th, 1990 Alcorn State 89 - 52 W
Feb. 8th, 1990 at Florida State 72 - 69 W
Feb. 10th, 1990 South Carolina 76 - 51 W
Feb. 15th, 1990 Memphis 82 - 76 W
Feb. 17th, 1990 Virginia Tech 94 - 80 W
Feb. 22nd, 1990 at Southern Miss 63 - 70 L
Feb. 24th, 1990 at Tulane 66 - 58 W
Mar. 1st, 1990 Louisville 71 - 86 L
Mar. 8th, 1990 Florida State 65 - 64 W
Mar. 9th, 1990 Southern Miss 63 - 75 L
Mar. 16th, 1990 Bowling Green 75 - 60 W
Mar. 20th, 1990 at DePaul 59 - 61 L
That was a cakewalk. L'ville was in decline mode under Crum. Memphis was nothing back then. Not sure if Finch was there at this time, but he was such a terrible coach. Huggs benefited from two overrated coaches in his league in Larry Finch and Denny Crum, whose teams were lackluster about this time.

Season 2:
Nov. 23rd, 1990 Sam Houston State 94 - 65 W
Nov. 24th, 1990 Kent 89 - 62 W
Nov. 28th, 1990 Kentucky 71 - 75 L
Dec. 1st, 1990 at Miami (OH) 64 - 72 L
Dec. 8th, 1990 UNC Asheville 95 - 51 W
Dec. 13th, 1990 Michigan State 63 - 65 L
Dec. 15th, 1990 at Evansville 58 - 48 W
Dec. 17th, 1990 St. Francis (PA) 79 - 68 W
Dec. 20th, 1990 at Minnesota 72 - 64 W
Dec. 22nd, 1990 East Tennessee State 79 - 90 L
Dec. 29th, 1990 at Dayton 75 - 71 W
Jan. 3rd, 1991 Louisville 72 - 64 W
Jan. 10th, 1991 at Florida State 67 - 72 L
Jan. 12th, 1991 at South Carolina 69 - 85 L
Jan. 19th, 1991 Virginia Tech 77 - 61 W
Jan. 24th, 1991 at Tulane 60 - 56 W
Jan. 26th, 1991 at Southern Miss 76 - 69 W
Jan. 30th, 1991 Xavier (OH) 69 - 56 W
Feb. 2nd, 1991 Memphis 73 - 59 W
Feb. 7th, 1991 Florida State 76 - 67 W
Feb. 9th, 1991 South Carolina 68 - 59 W
Feb. 14th, 1991 at Memphis 63 - 70 L
Feb. 16th, 1991 at Virginia Tech 81 - 85 L
Feb. 20th, 1991 Southern Miss 86 - 72 W
Feb. 23rd, 1991 Tulane 59 - 70 L
Feb. 25th, 1991 Valparaiso 90 - 47 W
Feb. 28th, 1991 at Louisville 61 - 68 L
Mar. 7th, 1991 Virginia Tech 69 - 75 L
Mar. 13th, 1991 Ball State 82 - 55 W
Mar. 18th, 1991 at Oklahoma 81 - 89 L
LOL. Gotta laugh at you. He only played Oklahoma because they were in his bracket in the NIT. I watched that game. Tubbs got all the calls, but Huggs still lost. Another cakewalk schedule.

You must have Alzheimer's, seriously. :rolleyes:

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Fact. Each team I listed was on those schedules.

And Minnesota was Big 10 powerhouse back then, too.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Nice try.

First season:
Nov. 25th, 1989 Minnesota 66 - 64 W
Nov. 29th, 1989 at UNC Wilmington 66 - 55 W
Dec. 2nd, 1989 Miami (OH) 59 - 63 L
Dec. 16th, 1989 Dayton 90 - 88 W
Dec. 18th, 1989 Southern 83 - 72 W
Dec. 22nd, 1989 Southwestern Louisiana 88 - 89 L
Dec. 23rd, 1989 Portland 75 - 53 W
Dec. 28th, 1989 Creighton 60 - 58 W
Dec. 29th, 1989 Duke 83 - 95 L
Dec. 30th, 1989 Rutgers 79 - 71 W
Jan. 4th, 1990 at Louisville 71 - 66 W
Jan. 6th, 1990 Coastal Carolina 72 - 73 L
Jan. 8th, 1990 at Toledo 72 - 84 L
Jan. 11th, 1990 Florida State 82 - 62 W
Jan. 13th, 1990 at South Carolina 53 - 59 L
Jan. 18th, 1990 Morehead State (KY) 68 - 61 W
Jan. 20th, 1990 at Virginia Tech 62 - 59 W
Jan. 22nd, 1990 at Arkansas State 65 - 66 L
Jan. 25th, 1990 Tulane 73 - 64 W
Jan. 27th, 1990 Southern Miss 76 - 83 L
Jan. 31st, 1990 at Xavier (OH) 88 - 90 L
Feb. 3rd, 1990 at Memphis 64 - 82 L
Feb. 5th, 1990 Alcorn State 89 - 52 W
Feb. 8th, 1990 at Florida State 72 - 69 W
Feb. 10th, 1990 South Carolina 76 - 51 W
Feb. 15th, 1990 Memphis 82 - 76 W
Feb. 17th, 1990 Virginia Tech 94 - 80 W
Feb. 22nd, 1990 at Southern Miss 63 - 70 L
Feb. 24th, 1990 at Tulane 66 - 58 W
Mar. 1st, 1990 Louisville 71 - 86 L
Mar. 8th, 1990 Florida State 65 - 64 W
Mar. 9th, 1990 Southern Miss 63 - 75 L
Mar. 16th, 1990 Bowling Green 75 - 60 W
Mar. 20th, 1990 at DePaul 59 - 61 L
That was a cakewalk. L'ville was in decline mode under Crum. Memphis was nothing back then. Not sure if Finch was there at this time, but he was such a terrible coach. Huggs benefited from two overrated coaches in his league in Larry Finch and Denny Crum, whose teams were lackluster about this time.

Season 2:
Nov. 23rd, 1990 Sam Houston State 94 - 65 W
Nov. 24th, 1990 Kent 89 - 62 W
Nov. 28th, 1990 Kentucky 71 - 75 L
Dec. 1st, 1990 at Miami (OH) 64 - 72 L
Dec. 8th, 1990 UNC Asheville 95 - 51 W
Dec. 13th, 1990 Michigan State 63 - 65 L
Dec. 15th, 1990 at Evansville 58 - 48 W
Dec. 17th, 1990 St. Francis (PA) 79 - 68 W
Dec. 20th, 1990 at Minnesota 72 - 64 W
Dec. 22nd, 1990 East Tennessee State 79 - 90 L
Dec. 29th, 1990 at Dayton 75 - 71 W
Jan. 3rd, 1991 Louisville 72 - 64 W
Jan. 10th, 1991 at Florida State 67 - 72 L
Jan. 12th, 1991 at South Carolina 69 - 85 L
Jan. 19th, 1991 Virginia Tech 77 - 61 W
Jan. 24th, 1991 at Tulane 60 - 56 W
Jan. 26th, 1991 at Southern Miss 76 - 69 W
Jan. 30th, 1991 Xavier (OH) 69 - 56 W
Feb. 2nd, 1991 Memphis 73 - 59 W
Feb. 7th, 1991 Florida State 76 - 67 W
Feb. 9th, 1991 South Carolina 68 - 59 W
Feb. 14th, 1991 at Memphis 63 - 70 L
Feb. 16th, 1991 at Virginia Tech 81 - 85 L
Feb. 20th, 1991 Southern Miss 86 - 72 W
Feb. 23rd, 1991 Tulane 59 - 70 L
Feb. 25th, 1991 Valparaiso 90 - 47 W
Feb. 28th, 1991 at Louisville 61 - 68 L
Mar. 7th, 1991 Virginia Tech 69 - 75 L
Mar. 13th, 1991 Ball State 82 - 55 W
Mar. 18th, 1991 at Oklahoma 81 - 89 L
LOL. Gotta laugh at you. He only played Oklahoma because they were in his bracket in the NIT. I watched that game. Tubbs got all the calls, but Huggs still lost. Another cakewalk schedule.

You must have Alzheimer's, seriously. :rolleyes:

Louisville and Memphis were both strong basketball programs back then.

I miss the Bearcat News posters who no longer post here because of people like you.

[Cats4Ever]

micksdaman - please go look at the ratings of those schools listed and you will see it was a tough schedule. Names only mean nothing. you are missing the most important part.

[Mick's Da Man]

Louisville and Memphis were both strong basketball programs back then.

I miss the Bearcat News posters who no longer post here because of people like you.


Seriously, you are delusional. Easy schedule. The teams you mentioned weren't that great back then. But I know you're old and losing it, so I'll let it slide.

Huggs had a cakewalk versus what Mick is up against. Mick is doing a great job.

[Mick's Da Man]

Fact. Each team I listed was on those schedules.

And Minnesota was Big 10 powerhouse back then, too.


5 or 6 tough teams, if we go by you're thinking. At worse he could do then was lose 5 or 6 games because the rest of the schedule was made up of cupcakes.

Again CAKEWALK. I'm right. You're wrong. Face it.

Schedules aren't made up of 5 or 6 good teams. Heck, the Big East is tough from top to bottom. Nothing easy like Huggs had it back then.

[JasonS]

Louisville was 14-16 in 1990-1991 but they were 27-8 in 1989-1990.

Not sure what Memphis' record was but Penny Hardaway did not play until 1991-1992 season.

I wouldn't call Minnesota a Big Ten power back then either. Here is their record by year from 1982-1992:

1982-1983: 18-11 (9-9 Conference record; NIT First Round)
1983-1984: 15-13 (6-12; No postseason Tourney)
1984-1985: 13-15 (6-12; None)
1985-1986: 15-16 (5-13; None)
1986-1987: 9-19 (2-16; None)
1987-1988: 10-18 (4-14; None)
1988-1989: 19-12 (9-9; NCAA 2nd Round)
1989-1990: 23-9 (11-7; NCAA Elite 8)
1990-1991: 12-16 (5-13; none)
1991-1992: 16-16 (8-10; NIT First Round)

Hardly a power if you ask me. 2 NCAA bids in 10 years and only one year with a conference record over .500 does not make a school a "Big Ten power." I agree with Micksdaman that the first two years Huggs had a much easier schedule to contend with than what Mick has had to deal with. Also, since the 1937-1938 season, Minnesota has won exactly 3 Conference Championships (1971-72, 81-82, and 96-97 which was erased due to academic fraud ranging from 1993-1999).

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/rankAPbyschool.html

Louisville http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/Louisville.html ranked both years.

Memphis http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/Memphis.html ranked in 1990.

Southern Miss http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/SouthernMississippi.html ranked in 1991.

Duke http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/Duke.html ranked in 1990.

Kentucky http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/Kentucky.html ranked in 1991.

Mich St http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/MichiganState.html ranked both years.

DePaul http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/DePaul.html ranked at end of 1991.

Oklahoma http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/Oklahoma.html ranked both years.

South Carolina http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/SouthCarolina.html ranked in 1991.

XU http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/Xavier.html ranked in 1990.

Minnesota http://www.sportsstats.com/AP/Minnesota.html ranked in 1990.

And UC was in the middle of a 3 year NCAA probation for recruiting violations under Tony Yates.

The 1990 and 91 teams won 20 and 18 games against good schedules and made postseason play for the first time in over a decade.

Period.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Seriously, you are delusional. Easy schedule. The teams you mentioned weren't that great back then. But I know you're old and losing it, so I'll let it slide.

Huggs had a cakewalk versus what Mick is up against. Mick is doing a great job.

Mick Cronin is nowhere near that other coach in terms of accomplishments. Not even close at this point.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Louisville was 14-16 in 1990-1991 but they were 27-8 in 1989-1990.

Not sure what Memphis' record was but Penny Hardaway did not play until 1991-1992 season.

I wouldn't call Minnesota a Big Ten power back then either. Here is their record by year from 1982-1992:

1982-1983: 18-11 (9-9 Conference record; NIT First Round)
1983-1984: 15-13 (6-12; No postseason Tourney)
1984-1985: 13-15 (6-12; None)
1985-1986: 15-16 (5-13; None)
1986-1987: 9-19 (2-16; None)
1987-1988: 10-18 (4-14; None)
1988-1989: 19-12 (9-9; NCAA 2nd Round)
1989-1990: 23-9 (11-7; NCAA Elite 8)
1990-1991: 12-16 (5-13; none)
1991-1992: 16-16 (8-10; NIT First Round)

Hardly a power if you ask me. 2 NCAA bids in 10 years and only one year with a conference record over .500 does not make a school a "Big Ten power." I agree with Micksdaman that the first two years Huggs had a much easier schedule to contend with than what Mick has had to deal with. Also, since the 1937-1938 season, Minnesota has won exactly 3 Conference Championships (1971-72, 81-82, and 96-97 which was erased due to academic fraud ranging from 1993-1999).

UC beat Minnesota in the 1990 season opener with 4 scholarship players and a football walk-on in the lineup. The football guy (Sanders) hit the game winning shot at the buzzer.

I proved my point above. Learn UC history before you talk about it foolishly.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

http://www.bearcatnews.com/bearcats/basketball/archives/ UC won 15 in 1989 and 11 in 1988 (for average of 13 W). Similar schedules, maybe weaker. Similar talent but perhaps more of it. No postseason play either year.

But UC (with similar talent levels and similar schedules) won 20 in 1990 and 18 in 1991 (for average of 19 W) and most postseason play both years.

Those 2 seasons gave UC fans some hope for the first time in a dozen years.

I don't know if you can make a similar claim about the last 2 seasons (12-19 average record) but that's up to you.

It's time to win again. No BS from the coaches or AD. Just win. 20 if U can.

[JasonS]

UC beat Minnesota in the 1990 season opener with 4 scholarship players and a football walk-on in the lineup. The football guy (Sanders) hit the game winning shot at the buzzer.

I proved my point above. Learn UC history before you talk about it foolishly.


Your opinion means nothing to me if you consider Minnesota a basketball power in the Big Ten at any time. Everything I stated with the records of the teams are facts. Maybe you should go start a Bearcat basketball board for fans who are still living in the 20th century.

[Mick's Da Man]

WAIT Livinglegend is not an *****?? Your hurting your credibility Micks Da Man and you still are a good poster dont ruin in by defending LL.

58' is a Huggins blowhard and thats fine. He will jump behind Mick soon.

OUR program is bigger than one person.


I just have a hard time listening to '58's constant rah-rahing of Huggins.

One can both appreciate what Huggs did for the program and still see his shortcomings.

One can both appreciate what Huggs did for the program but admit that The Metro Conference, Great Midwest Conference, and Conference USA were not power house conferences.........were not in the Big 6 conferences........and if you would have asked a follower of the Big Ten, SEC, Pac-10, ACC, etc..........they probably barely knew who UC was. Kinda like Egg-zaviour today.

One can both appreciate what Huggs did for the program and still see that his scheduling early on (and it possibly could have been scheduled by the previous coach, who knows?) did to pad his record early on in those first two seasons.

It's comical to me that some of Mick's critics are lambasting this year's schedule, but find Huggs early schedules difficult.

[Thegreatone]

Oh yeah, that post is absolutly right but I still think that 58' brings a good sense of history to the board. Now he certainly is letting go of Huggins and he will not admit Huggins flaws but its cool.

[Billy Don]

For someone who needs to know this, you don't become a top 25 team every year because you have an easy schedule or are in a crap conference. If that was the case there are over a hundred teams out there who would qualify. Fact is if you are a top 25 team late in the season and at the end of the season it's because you have proved it on the court to the experts who make their living making the polls. Experienced fans like 58 know this of course. Takes the young awhile to get the complete picture on how things work. Of course there is nothing wrong with this. We were all there at one point in time.

[jkwuc89]

I am closing this thread. No new ground being covered here and I don't like the tone going back and forth between the posters. FYI...historical posts should go on the "where are they now" forum.