OT: UK is crying

[shaunsimpson]

Jai Lucas is committing to Florida today at 3:30. he is rumored to be a package deal with the highest rated 2007 recruit left Patrick Patterson.

[CroninCrazy]

Good! :) (I live in Rupp Country)

[Thegreatone]

Our program is on the way up, theres is one the way down. I dont root against UK but I dont like to hear about them, so if this pushes them more into oblivion then good.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Our program is on the way up, theres is one the way down. I dont root against UK but I dont like to hear about them, so if this pushes them more into oblivion then good.

UK is hardly on the way down (77% W-L record the past 5 years) but UC is on the way back up.

[Thegreatone]

they went from being a dominate program to being a pretty darn good team. If were being honest they are still ahead right now, but they were falling, that is why the got rid of tubby and we are on the way up.

[bcatwilly]

they went from being a dominate program to being a pretty darn good team. If were being honest they are still ahead right now, but they were falling, that is why the got rid of tubby and we are on the way up.

I don't see Kentucky going away anytime soon, but their fans are still the most arrogant morons on the face of the planet bar none :)

[Jamos]

I don't see Kentucky going away anytime soon, but their fans are still the most arrogant morons on the face of the planet bar none :)

While I wholeheartedly agree with you on UK fans, may I also offer up O$U fans as well. I dont see a difference between the 2 at all.:cool:

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

they went from being a dominate program to being a pretty darn good team. If were being honest they are still ahead right now, but they were falling, that is why the got rid of tubby and we are on the way up.

No one got rid of Tubby. He left by own choice. UK is a Top 5 program since 1960.

Top (men's) Div I college basketball programs during the last 10 years (1998 thru 2007) are:

1. Duke 302-53 and 28-9 in NCAA
2. Kansas 276-72 and 20-10 NCAA
3. Connecticut 264-78 and 25-6 NCAA
4. Kentucky 263-83 and 23-9 NCAA
5. Gonzaga 263-69 and 12-9 NCAA
6. Illinois 249-90 and 16-9 NCAA
7. Florida 248-86 and 22-7 NCAA
8. Syracuse 248-92 and 13-7 NCAA
9. Arizona 246-80 and 18-10 NCAA
10. Michigan St. 245-92 and 24-9 NCAA
11. Stanford 240-80 and 12-9 NCAA
12. North Carolina 239-101 and 20-7 NCAA
13. Cincinnati 238-88 and 8-8 NCAA
14. Oklahoma 236-91 and 11-8 NCAA
15. Maryland 234-99 and 19-7 NCAA

[Thegreatone]

bearcatfan i agree with you they were awesome and they are not being able to hold on to that top 5 program title. Not saying we are taking it over but you can tell me how great they were but if your telling me the past 6 or 7 years they have been where they want to be then I believe your wrong. Tubby was ran out of town and we all know that. He can say he left but they were calling for his head for awhile. They were great, now they are pretty good and if gillipse cant stop this they are on their way to being above average. I dont root against kentucky but again i would like them to become less relivant and tubby was doing a great job at doing that, hopefully gillipse can finish what tubby started.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

bearcatfan i agree with you they were awesome and they are not being able to hold on to that top 5 program title. Not saying we are taking it over but you can tell me how great they were but if your telling me the past 6 or 7 years they have been where they want to be then I believe your wrong. Tubby was ran out of town and we all know that. He can say he left but they were calling for his head for awhile. They were great, now they are pretty good and if gillipse cant stop this they are on their way to being above average. I dont root against kentucky but again i would like them to become less relivant and tubby was doing a great job at doing that, hopefully gillipse can finish what tubby started.

I know Tubby personally. He left by his own choice. No one ran him anywhere.

UK was GREAT in the 40's and 50's but Top 5 since then.

[tophat]

I don't care what Tubby may have said about the matter, the undisputed facts are:

1. There was widespread dissatisfaction at the team's progress, and he was feeling the pressure.

2. He left for a far lesser program.

The situation speaks for itself.

[shaunsimpson]

Patterson is announcing tomorrow if I am correct and I think that he is going to be a Gator with Lucas.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I don't care what Tubby may have said about the matter, the undisputed facts are:

1. There was widespread dissatisfaction at the team's progress, and he was feeling the pressure.

2. He left for a far lesser program.

The situation speaks for itself.

So you know more than Tubby about why he left. Hmmm.

He felt no pressure. He won 76% of his UK games and 72% of his NCAA games there, both at or above historical UK norms.

He left for a greater challenge in a city that dwarfs Lexington.

[ucjay99]

So you know more than Tubby about why he left. Hmmm.

He felt no pressure. He won 76% of his UK games and 72% of his NCAA games there, both at or above historical UK norms.

He left for a greater challenge in a city that dwarfs Lexington.

No pressure? Are you serious? I'm brand new to this board, but not brand new to the college game..... That statement alone nullifies your comment about knowing him personally..... besides that, who cares? Last time I checked this was a UC board where it should be cool to bash our neighbor programs while uplifting our own....

[FleXcursion]

Last time I checked this was a UC board where it should be cool to bash our neighbor programs while uplifting our own....

Not in smokey's world.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Not in smokey's world.

Just stating facts. Like I do when people on UK websites knock UC.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

No pressure? Are you serious? I'm brand new to this board, but not brand new to the college game..... That statement alone nullifies your comment about knowing him personally..... besides that, who cares? Last time I checked this was a UC board where it should be cool to bash our neighbor programs while uplifting our own....

Yes. No pressure. He ignored the tooth-deficient, Double Digit IQ fans and just coached the team.

[lt7784]

I think it's obvious that there was a lot of pressure on Tubby, whether he felt it--I don't know... He'd have to be pretty resilient not to. Not many coaches go from a powerhouse program to a bottom feeder simply "for a new challenge".

[qsilvr2531]

I think one of the complaints UK fans had about Smith was that he never acted like he felt the kind of pressure they wanted him to. I don't find it that hard to believe that he actually did ignore the UK fans and just coached the team. Either way, if he doesn't take the Minnesota job there is still a good chance he isn't the UK coach anymore anyway, so him leaving on his own terms was probably a good decision.

[tophat]

Smith may be thick skinned, but he wasn't blind to the fact that support for him had badly eroded. The talent level at UK had slipped in recent years, and so had their position in the SEC. Obviously alot of cities have more to offer than Lexington, lol, which has nothing to do with what makes the UK job one of the top three in the country, with expectations to match. (ps - I'm not a UK fan - just a realist)

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

Smith may be thick skinned, but he wasn't blind to the fact that support for him had badly eroded. The talent level at UK had slipped in recent years, and so had their position in the SEC. Obviously alot of cities have more to offer than Lexington, lol, which has nothing to do with what makes the UK job one of the top three in the country, with expectations to match. (ps - I'm not a UK fan - just a realist)


Yes, I'm sure places like Chapel Hill (just one example of many) have SO much more to offer.

[shaunsimpson]

Well....I was way off on this one.

Patterson is going to be going to Kentucky. He announced it at a press conference at 3:45.

[Thegreatone]

Now that clown Tubby is out it looks like Kentucky might have a fighting chance in the SEC, they landed Patrick Patterson. They ran Tubby out of town, if Tubby or you, bearcat fan, want to admit it thats fine, if not it is still true.

BOTTOM LINE: Tubby left Kentucky in worse conditions then he recieved it, that is not debatable. Looks like Billy is going to have to turn it around, he will, he is a quailty coach. In a couple years it will be like 1996 again, UC and UK on top in the Nation. Hopefully.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Now that clown Tubby is out it looks like Kentucky might have a fighting chance in the SEC, they landed Patrick Patterson. They ran Tubby out of town, if Tubby or you, bearcat fan, want to admit it thats fine, if not it is still true.

BOTTOM LINE: Tubby left Kentucky in worse conditions then he recieved it, that is not debatable. Looks like Billy is going to have to turn it around, he will, he is a quailty coach. In a couple years it will be like 1996 again, UC and UK on top in the Nation. Hopefully.

UK had the 4th best record in the nation the past 10 years. UC had the 8th best record in the nation the past 10 years.

Tubby Smith is hardly a clown. Perhaps you are looking in a mirror?

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Well....I was way off on this one.

Patterson is going to be going to Kentucky. He announced it at a press conference at 3:45.

Patterson was a UK lean since last fall. A friend of mine in Charleston WV knows his parents. Been UK all the way since Midnight Madness in Oct 2006.

[L.Baker]

Patterson is announcing tomorrow if I am correct and I think that he is going to be a Gator with Lucas.

Perhaps Patterson chose to go to Kentucky after he realized the huge NCAA violation that would have happened with Donovan at Florida. On 700WLW this morning, there was a soundbyte of an interview with Patterson and he mentioned that he was grateful to Donovan because he (Donovan) was going to move Patterson's family to Jacksonville to help them out. Of course, those comments came out of a kid's mouth, but it sure is interesting that this kid chose to make comments like those in an interview. Makes you wonder what other benefits he would have taken, or Donovan would have given.

[bww]

Those comments should be taken with a light grain of salt. 18 year olds sometimes talk about things they don't know about. Then again, he could be right, but right now, I'll take it with the salt.

[Bearcats_Rule]

WOW if he did say those things....NCAA would not like that one bit!!!

[L.Baker]

Indeed, take it with a grain of salt, but the specific details caught my ear. He mentioned that Donovan was going to help his family out by getting them a house, and then he said in Jacksonville. Knowing that UF is in Gainesville, I found it peculiar that this recruit named a specific place for this gesture to "help his family". That, and he specifically mentioned Donovan's name.