Nice Article by Koch

[Big B]

Here's a good article by Koch on AK and Martin. It's amazing how everything worked out so well for all the coaches. Wouldn't be something if these 4 guys meet in the Final Four someday.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070517/SPT0101/705170376/1064/SPT04

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Here's a good article by Koch on AK and Martin. It's amazing how everything worked out so well for all the coaches. Wouldn't be something if these 4 guys meet in the Final Four someday.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070517/SPT0101/705170376/1064/SPT04

It took Huggs a while but he now has 3 proteges coaching in BCS conferences.

[SLMadiCat]

It took Huggs a while but he now has 3 proteges coaching in BCS conferences.

Only problem is they couldn't get a job while working directly under Huggins.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Only problem is they couldn't get a job while working directly under Huggins.

So what? Huggins has 3 proteges in bigtime jobs. AK and FM give him Major Props for his role. MC isn't allowed to do that by UC Admin or AD staff.

[SLMadiCat]

So what?

Just making the point. It does show what other AD's think of him to not hire any of his assistants. MC even pointed this out. Also, Huggs doesn't care but it might effect who wants to be his assistant.

MC isn't allowed to do that by UC Admin or AD staff.

Do you have some kind of proof for this? Because I strongly disagree. I've seen several quotes where Mick gives credit directly to Huggins. If you have some evidence to support this, please come forward with it.

[jon b]

In coaching and AD circles, myths can perpetuate themselves. Huggins assistants 'cannot coach because no one hires them'. Makes you a bit gun sh as an AD looking for a coach.

But if these 3 continue or start to have greater success, I look for WVU to be raided occassionally as now 'Huggins' assitants can coach at the major college level' will be the perception.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Just making the point. It does show what other AD's think of him to not hire any of his assistants. MC even pointed this out. Also, Huggs doesn't care but it might effect who wants to be his assistant.



Do you have some kind of proof for this? Because I strongly disagree. I've seen several quotes where Mick gives credit directly to Huggins. If you have some evidence to support this, please come forward with it.

The first point is false. The second point is obvious.

[SLMadiCat]

In coaching and AD circles, myths can perpetuate themselves. Huggins assistants 'cannot coach because no one hires them'. Makes you a bit gun sh as an AD looking for a coach.

But if these 3 continue or start to have greater success, I look for WVU to be raided occassionally as now 'Huggins' assitants can coach at the major college level' will be the perception.

I agree. And I think AK is a very good coach, but I believe it hurt him that he was an assistant for Huggs. As for Martin, I'm not really sure how good of a coach he is, time will tell I guess.

[SLMadiCat]

The first point is false.
Then you tell me: why didn't AK get any jobs while working for Huggins. And why did MC say himself that no AD would hire him when he was with Huggins?

The second point is obvious.
Again, do you have some proof. If it is obvious, why are there quotes of Mick talking about Huggins? Do you need me to find them for you? You make inaccurate statements with absolutely no evidence to back them up.

[Josh Rexhausen]

Originally Posted by SLMadiCat
Only problem is they couldn't get a job while working directly under Huggins.
Okay, so Hugs got two of his assistants jobs at the two jobs he just had, so what if he had already left before they got the job. It would have been hard for them to get the job while he was still in charge now wouldn't it? I believe what Jon said is probably true, "everyone raggs on Huggs, therefore whoever he has working for him must be like him too." He has three coaches who worked for him coaching in Major conferences, two of which got jobs starting in the Major Conferences (read: did not have to do their time for mid-major) Cronin didn't get a job in a Major coference after working under Rick Pitino, and I'm sure if he had stayed with Huggs, he would have still been able to get the Murray State job, but his resume looks nicer now.

I think AK is a very good coach, but I believe it hurt him that he was an assistant for Huggs.
What do you mean by this? If he decides to get another head coaching job, the AD is going to say "He did alright caching Mississippi, but if he hadn't worked for Bob Huggins we would hire him on the spot."


OT:
Can this be moved to the "where are they now" forum, otherwise the way people are talking the top two threards are "Bill Koch is a hack" and "Nice article by Bill Koch" Kind of contradictory, and this thread does at least fit the description of the "where are they now" forum.

[SLMadiCat]

Okay, so Hugs got two of his assistants jobs at the two jobs he just had, so what if he had already left before they got the job. It would have been hard for them to get the job while he was still in charge now wouldn't it? I believe what Jon said is probably true, "everyone raggs on Huggs, therefore whoever he has working for him must be like him too."
So what? I'm just making the point, that is all.

Cronin didn't get a job in a Major coference after working under Rick Pitino, and I'm sure if he had stayed with Huggs, he would have still been able to get the Murray State job, but his resume looks nicer now.
What makes you believe this? AK couldn't get a job at Louisiana Monroe while he was with Huggins. Mick specifically said he had to go work for someone else in order to get a head coaching position. So Mick is lying?
What do you mean by this? If he decides to get another head coaching job, the AD is going to say "He did alright caching Mississippi, but if he hadn't worked for Bob Huggins we would hire him on the spot."
No, you are reading it wrong. "Hurt" is in past tense. As in it hurt AK's chances of landing a job while he was working for Huggins. See above. There was another school beside Louisiana Monroe, I just can't remember it.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Then you tell me: why didn't AK get any jobs while working for Huggins. And why did MC say himself that no AD would hire him when he was with Huggins?


Again, do you have some proof. If it is obvious, why are there quotes of Mick talking about Huggins? Do you need me to find them for you? You make inaccurate statements with absolutely no evidence to back them up.

It's too bad the new format allows this kind of baloney. It was much easier to delete E-Mails.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

So what? I'm just making the point, that is all.


What makes you believe this? AK couldn't get a job at Louisiana Monroe while he was with Huggins. Mick specifically said he had to go work for someone else in order to get a head coaching position. So Mick is lying?

No, you are reading it wrong. "Hurt" is in past tense. As in it hurt AK's chances of landing a job while he was working for Huggins. See above. There was another school beside Louisiana Monroe, I just can't remember it.

Yes, Mick was lying about that. 100% false.

Kennedy himself doesn't agree with you.

[SLMadiCat]

It's too bad the new format allows this kind of baloney. It was much easier to delete E-Mails.

Baloney? I can back up my information. Can you?

[SLMadiCat]

Yes, Mick was lying about that. 100% false.

Kennedy himself doesn't agree with you.

Ha. Okay, sure, Mick was lying. When you talked to Kennedy, did he say why he didn't get the Louisiana job?

[SLMadiCat]

Sorry. Just wanted to say I'm done with this thread and sorry to start a pissing match. Wasn't my intention and we just have different opinions.