Riek May Not Play This Year

[Kindog202]

Per Koch - the coaching staff is proceeding under the assumption the Riek will not play. They are still working on getting him eligible and through the clearinghouse, a process that could take up to 6 months and said even if he is cleared, they don't know if his knee will allow him to play.

[MikeInClifton]

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[YouGuessedItFrankStallone]

Oh good... I'm sure as always our friends at the NCAA will do everything in their power to bring this situation to a speedy and equitable resolut... pfft!! Who am I kidding?!? This sounds like Hernol Hall/Adam H/Ben Mauk Part 1000.

[MDW79]

This seems to have come out of nowhere. Obviously I must be mistaken but I thought he was already cleared. I seem to remember Cronin saying something to the effect that it was a done deal. My prediction, if he doesn't play this year, is that we'll never see him a Bearcats uniform.

[jeffto]

Although this news will break The Ralph's heart, it's not earth-shattering. You've got to take the long view on this. After seeing Biggie with good wheels vs. him with a bad foot, I think another 1/2 year in rehab will be great for Riek. If our current team progresses and develops I don't know that messing with the chemistry in Dec. or Jan would have been good anyway. If he were a point guard, I'd certainly be singing a different tune!

[ralph1950]

BUMMER! BUMMER! BUMMER! This takes the Bearcats out of National Title contention for this season. I feel like Kenyon Martin just broke his ankle. It is now wait until next year time. With Reik playing next season the Bearcats should be the odds on favorite to win the National Title.

The Ralph

[jplog]

I would guess the NCAA will drag this out well into next season. I was thinking how the sanctions leveled against IU this week would have been much different had UC been the school in question. Guaranteed we would have lost scholarships and post season eligibility. Screw the NCAA.

[Cats4Ever]

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[bearcatbret]

I remember reading earlier in the summer that Riek's High School transcripts never came over from his hometown. That might be the case. It is a war torn country and they may not even be available.

[MDW79]

I'm confused as to why this was written by Koch today. Why wasn't this been brought up awhile ago? Am I missing something or does the timing of this seem odd?

[Mick's Da Man]

I hear UC submitted this case with an Ohio State logo on the paperwork, hoping it would accelerate and ease the NCAA's decision process in a good way.

[Billy Don]

This seems to have come out of nowhere. Obviously I must be mistaken but I thought he was already cleared. I seem to remember Cronin saying something to the effect that it was a done deal. My prediction, if he doesn't play this year, is that we'll never see him a Bearcats uniform.
You have to understand Mick puts a positive spin on every recruit he gets a committal from. Henry was a done deal as soon as he took a summer class for example.

[jeffto]

You have to understand Mick puts a positive spin on every recruit he gets a committal from. Henry was a done deal as soon as he took a summer class for example.What would you want him to do. Predict doom and gloom like you?

[Billy Don]

What would you want him to do. Predict doom and gloom like you?

I don't know Chuck! I just don't know!

[jlr1523]

Very, very typical. The NCAA will certainly find a reason to stick it to UC yet once again. A-holes.

[Doss]

Adam H - late discovery he was on pro team in Poland

Hernol Hall - used up eligibility in Panama or Costa Rico

Biggie - got a bad foot

Reik - it will take 6 months or some other BS

Why am I not surprised?

[YouGuessedItFrankStallone]

Adam H - late discovery he was on pro team in Poland

Hernol Hall - used up eligibility in Panama or Costa Rico

Biggie - got a bad foot

Reik - it will take 6 months or some other BS

Why am I not surprised?


Vincent Banks, Tyree Evans, Roy Bright, Robert Whaley, and DeAndre Coleman say hi

[SLMadiCat]

Vincent Banks, Tyree Evans, Roy Bright, Robert Whaley, and DeAndre Coleman say hi

That's just in the last couple years. Hmmm, not getting transcripts in and playing ball with other pro players, or hung jury on rape charge, another rape charge, shooting a gun on campus?

My guess is Doss doesn't respond to this.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

It may be better for Riek to sit out anyway. That way he is fully recovered by next season and will share the pivot with McClain when Gates moves over to PF for Williams.

[SLMadiCat]

It may be better for Riek to sit out anyway. That way he is fully recovered by next season and will share the pivot with McClain when Gates moves over to PF for Williams.

Weird, how come we shouldn't ignore the anti-Cronin garbage above? Doesn't seem like you have a problem with that.

[YouGuessedItFrankStallone]

It may be better for Riek to sit out anyway. That way he is fully recovered by next season and will share the pivot with McClain when Gates moves over to PF for Williams.

I don't believe anyone mentioned this "Huggins" you speak of. My point was simply that unexpected bad suprises in recuriting aren't exclusive to Mick as Doss was implying.

[London 'Cat]

Adam H - late discovery he was on pro team in Poland

Hernol Hall - used up eligibility in Panama or Costa Rico

Biggie - got a bad foot

Reik - it will take 6 months or some other BS

Why am I not surprised?

Let's face the facts here. Cronin had to take some chances on those players due to the state of the program when he was hired. Those "risky" recruits have not materialized as Cronin (and us) would have liked. Had all these players not had these problems, none of us would be complaining, except for maybe Adam H., and I submit we'd be hailing Mick as the greatest recruiter ever. I view Riek as another risky recruit, not from the standpoint of his character, but from the eligibility/clearinghouse aspect. Whether this ultimately pans out for Cronin remains to be seen. But if this guy is as good as advertised, it was worth a shot to take him.

[Thegreatone]

It may be better for Riek to sit out anyway. That way he is fully recovered by next season and will share the pivot with McClain when Gates moves over to PF for Williams.

I agree I will not be that upset if he doesnt play. He can rest his knee and get stronger. He wouldnt provide much help this year even though my boy The Ralph has told me otherwise.

[Joe C.]

If Thegreatone and Ralph are a tag team, then 1958 must be the pivot man.

[Thewhiteboy]

When it comes too Riek, I wouldn't cross my fingers. Belton could help this team this year more than Riek would. With Beltons hurt spine, I wouldn't count on either one helping us this year.

[Doss]

the ones you mention were behavior problems. Which is easier to determine in advance, plus guys need a 2nd chance sometimes. Nick Van Excel came with a somewhat bad rep. Last I checked Nick gave UC $250,000


That's just in the last couple years. Hmmm, not getting transcripts in and playing ball with other pro players, or hung jury on rape charge, another rape charge, shooting a gun on campus?

My guess is Doss doesn't respond to this.

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Well guys, this is nowhere near a big deal. Why?

Because we are bringing a 7-footer AND Steve Toyloy OFF THE BENCH. That's solid right there.

So now, next year's incoming class will basically be a smooth, quick point guard, a buttery 6'5" shooting guard, and a 7 foot 3 monster.

And... we are ten deep THIS season.

We're in sooooo much better shape now than last year... nobody should be getting AT ALL upset at the fact that Riek won't play this season.

[Thegreatone]

If Thegreatone and Ralph are a tag team, then 1958 must be the pivot man.

Who the **** is ralph??? If you mean the Ralph, then your wrong we have no more room for 58' or anyone else. Phua Joe C. who is Joe. C??

But seriously this isnt a big deal IMO i just think he wouldnt play much regardless.

[SLMadiCat]

the ones you mention were behavior problems. Which is easier to determine in advance, plus guys need a 2nd chance sometimes. Nick Van Excel came with a somewhat bad rep. Last I checked Nick gave UC $250,000

Apparently it isn't that easy to determine in advance as proven by all the off court issues while at UC. Either way, I can't believe you would rather have a person charged with rape than a person who played ball with someone who got paid. Truly remarkable.

[Joe_Pong]

Like I said recently in another thread, I would be shocked if Riek plays for UC at all this year, and if he does, he would have almost no impact. But I was thinking more from a physical standpoint. It's been a long time since he has played, plus he is not healthy...and from the video I have seen of him, he is very raw and he moves around very awkwardly when he is healthy. I just am not thiat impressed. He needs a lot of coaching and training befor he is ready to be more than a mop up player.

[jeffto]

If Thegreatone and Ralph are a tag team, then 1958 must be the pivot man.I don't think TGO and the Ralph have much in common with '58 except a love of UC BBall and football.

'58 has become the poster child for Mick skepticism while TGO and tR appear to be supporters.

[slimm]

but most importantly, if Reik does play, he makes UC a national title contender....happy turkey day!
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[Joe C.]

Who the **** is ralph??? If you mean the Ralph, then your wrong we have no more room for 58' or anyone else. Phua Joe C. who is Joe. C??

But seriously this isnt a big deal IMO i just think he wouldnt play much regardless.

I would agree that he would not play much, at least initially. We (and any other team) could always use a 7-footer on the roster, but with his injury and lack of cohesion w/ the team, I doubt he would have a huge impact if he does become eligible.
Having said that, with him in the lineup we are assured a national title.

[Doss]

said about rape. That coach was Robert Montgomery Knight.

Women's groups nationwide were outraged by Knight's comments during an April, 1988 interview with Connie Chung in which he said, "I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it. Knight's comment was in reference to an Indiana basketball game in which he felt the referees were making poor calls against the Hoosiers.





Apparently it isn't that easy to determine in advance as proven by all the off court issues while at UC. Either way, I can't believe you would rather have a person charged with rape than a person who played ball with someone who got paid. Truly remarkable.

[Thegreatone]

I don't think TGO and the Ralph have much in common with '58 except a love of UC BBall and football.

'58 has become the poster child for Mick skepticism while TGO and tR appear to be supporters.

Right, in all seriousness tR (the Ralph, I love the little t haha) is really optimistic and 58' hates Mick and is stuck in Huggins era. I am more the Ralph but not as extreme.

Riek doesnt make UC a national title contender but he most certainly would have helped. I really thought he would have been playing 5 minutes tops if he did/does become eligable.

I still think we can make the NCAA tourny without Riek or Cashmere.

[Billy Don]

Right, in all seriousness tR (the Ralph, I love the little t haha) is really optimistic and 58' hates Mick and is stuck in Huggins era. I am more the Ralph but not as extreme.

Riek doesnt make UC a national title contender but he most certainly would have helped. I really thought he would have been playing 5 minutes tops if he did/does become eligable.

I still think we can make the NCAA tourny without Riek or Cashmere.

Crazy! As of like a week ago the word from UC and Mick was Riek's rehab was going great and he would enroll in December and play in Janurary. Then the report about the NCAA and Mick saying Riek wouldn't play anyway if he was cleared, because of the knee operation last summer. So is saying Riek won't play because of his knee just a cover up for the NCAA thing or did something go wrong with his knee and rehab?

[Bearcat Jeff]

Crazy! As of like a week ago the word from UC and Mick was Riek's rehab was going great and he would enroll in December and play in Janurary. Then the report about the NCAA and Mick saying Riek wouldn't play anyway if he was cleared, because of the knee operation last summer. So is saying Riek won't play because of his knee just a cover up for the NCAA thing or did something go wrong with his knee and rehab?I think regardless of how rehab is going, or NCAA eligibility is going, Mick has to proceed as if he won't play a minute. He has said all along they would not know the condition of Rieks knee till he arrived on campus. From what I'm hearing he was on campus last week and maybe now they have evaluated for themselves and now they have a better grasp of where the big man is physically. Let's remember he played on this knee for a year and it could have been shredded pretty good. As far as the NCAA goes it is totally out of their control so you have to proceed with the assumption that even if declared eligible it could be May of '09 before the ruling comes down.

[Billy Don]

I think regardless of how rehab is going, or NCAA eligibility is going, Mick has to proceed as if he won't play a minute. He has said all along they would not know the condition of Rieks knee till he arrived on campus. From what I'm hearing he was on campus last week and maybe now they have evaluated for themselves and now they have a better grasp of where the big man is physically. Let's remember he played on this knee for a year and it could have been shredded pretty good. As far as the NCAA goes it is totally out of their control so you have to proceed with the assumption that even if declared eligible it could be May of '09 before the ruling comes down.

I wanted to suggest to someone that the Ralph should be put on suicide watch but didn't know who to tell.

[ralph1950]

I wanted to suggest to someone that the Ralph should be put on suicide watch but didn't know who to tell.


No problem at all BD, UC will win the National Title in 2010 when Reik is able to play.

Also I will be drowing my sorrows in Miami at the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day!

[SLMadiCat]

Riek's contributions were going to come in the next two years anyway. I would have liked to have him this year to get some experience, but as long as he can get in a UC uniform by next year I'll be happy. If he doesn't, we know Mick has a backup plan.