real 2008 needs

[Inchickinkick]

micks got two forwards, all he
needs is a point guard then he
should hold back on the others
too balance out the 2009 class
then add a couple shooting guards
too go with mcelroy kid,
talk
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whatsthatsmell smell whatsthatsmell

[JR71]

A point guard is a must get in 2008. Since Gates wants to play PF in college him and Mike Williams should hold that position down pretty well. We still need a C to go along with McClain. I think we will be pretty good on the wing with Henry, Mitchell, Bishop, and Wilks. That is if they all make the grades to be eligible.

[swilsonsp4]

Mick said, in one of his last radio shows, that he needed to recruit to make the squad two-deep at all five positions. I don't believe he's worried about balancing the classes, if it means passing on a quality center, wing and point.

At this point, there's no one to back up Anthony McClain during his sophomore year. Adam Hrycaniuk will get to play only next season. Mike Williams is more of a forward, as is Yancy Gates (although Gates can play offense with his back to the basket, if Mick ropes him into the low post, rather than allowing him to drift outside with the going gets tough inside).

[Inchickinkick]

i guess another center should be added,
and add a shooting guard too come with
mcelroy, uhat wood make some sence,
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[Thegreatone]

Please try to talk in a manner where we don't have to work to read it. Your comments arent worth it. A little "internet"talk is fine, but what your doing is rediculous

[DimitriusChristedes]

too go with mcelroy kid, talk

Talk....nice one.
I agree with greatone....something's not right with this child. Makes me wish I had a bannin' stick.

[red_n_black_attack]

Unfortunately, proper English in written form is more rare than proper English in spoken form. I am not perfect nor am I always proper. This is seen in emails without punctuation, text messaging, and forums like this one.

That said, I believe that the receivers (fairly or unfairly) will judge your intelligence by use of language and grammar. This is just advice to everyone. It is difficult to extract your point and you posted because you have something to convey.

I think a PG will be in the fold very soon and that a Center (or two because I'm greedy) should be the continuing recruiting focus for '08 and '09.

(Don't know about you, but I cannot wait to be out of the aughts) :cool:

[uccat04]

Is this a basketball forum or English class.

Thegreatone - ridiculous is spelled with an "i" not an "e." Don't criticize people if you can't get it right yourself.

[uccat04]

Is this a basketball forum or English class?

Thegreatone - ridiculous is spelled with an "i" not an "e." Don't criticize others if you can't get it correct yourself.

[waterhead]

If we get Mitchell and Bost and then go after and get a top 50 center (Woods/Morgan/Gibson) I think we will be stacked at every position for the 08'-09' season. The only one that concerns me a "little" is PG since we really don't know what Vaughn is truly capable of at that position and Bost will be a frosh with possible grade issues. Let's take a look:

McClain/Morgan or Woods or Gibson? (If we can...no problems at C)
Williams/Gates/Belton (Not worried here with McElroy coming a year later)
Henry/Wilks/Bishop (at least one of these three will be a stud)
Mitchell/Mitchell/Davis (there WILL be a lights out shooter or two in this trio)
Vaughn/Bost (has potential but a small ?)

Honestly I think we will be fine at PG but the rest is solid. That is of course if we get our center/big PF. I wouldn't be opposed to the top juco center if we can't get one of the remaining top notch high school biggies.

[Inchickinkick]

what kind of point guard is mick searching for?
are there any jc centers out there for 2008

[waterhead]

what kind of point guard is mick searching for?
are there any jc centers out there for 2008

It looks as though Bost is going to be our newest PG from the latest talk and from his visit this weekend. You can read about him in the recruiting section of this site. Walker would be a PG that Mick is looking at too...that is if he didn't commit to Bost this weekend. I haven't seen a list of top juco centers yet. I don't want to see one until we have exhausted our top high school options.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

Is this a basketball forum or English class.

Thegreatone - ridiculous is spelled with an "i" not an "e." Don't criticize people if you can't get it right yourself.

It may not be an English class, but, when it becomes painful to read some of the posts, I have no problem with bringing it to their attention. A third grader should know the difference between "too, to, and two", and "their, there, and they're". I'm not asking for perfection, but, it doesn't take a lot of effort. Aren't most of these posters supposed to be college graduates? This forum can be read by anyone with internet access. It doesn't speak well for UC when some of these posts are read.

[red_n_black_attack]

It may not be an English class, but, when it becomes painful to read some of the posts, I have no problem with bringing it to their attention. A third grader should know the difference between "too, to, and two", and "their, there, and they're". I'm not asking for perfection, but, it doesn't take a lot of effort. Aren't most of these posters supposed to be college graduates? This forum can be read by anyone with internet access. It doesn't speak well for UC when some of these posts are read.


It doesn't reflect well on a UC education.

Bost really cool, I hope we can welcome you to the family soon!

[The real Bearcat Fan]

what kind of point guard is mick searching for?
are there any jc centers out there for 2008

I am not opposed to UC recruiting Junior College players. There has been some good Junior College players go through the program in recent history. I would prefer to have a player for four years, but with the best high school players often leaving early for the NBA often you do not get a high school player for four years any way. I say recruit the best player at there position no matter whether they are a JC, high school or prep school player just as long as they are eligible and can play.

[Mick's Da Man]

Everything I read about Bost reminds me of Chris Lofton, except that he's not the great three point shooter Lofton was. But the basketball and football pedigree of winning everything in sight is very familiar, along with some of the naysayers comments regarding each of them in high school.

Some kids are just winners. Others have all the talent in the world but don't know how to win. Which do you want?

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

Everything I read about Bost reminds me of Chris Lofton, except that he's not the great three point shooter Lofton was. But the basketball and football pedigree of winning everything in sight is very familiar, along with some of the naysayers comments regarding each of them in high school.

Some kids are just winners. Others have all the talent in the world but don't know how to win. Which do you want?

A guy who has both.

[waterhead]

I agree that it might be better to get a player that will stick around a while but I wouldn't call any of our kids NBA ready. There are only a couple that we are even recruiting that have the talent to leave after freshman year or even Sophomore year and they probably aren't coming here. Only a select few are really ready for the NBA which is why they have to play college for one year. The rest of the kids need at least two years and most of the time three. We barely have kids ranked inside the top 50 of their class. Those are three year to four year kids. Of course there is the possibiltity that a kid out performs expectations and leaves.

When we get a top 10 recruit I will worry about them leaving early but if they are around top 50 and above I expect to get 3-4 years out of them. There is way too much talk about NBA ready kids. I don't think the number of kids that leave after freshman and sophomore years is a big number at all...but I could be wrong.

If you look at our highly ranked recruits that left early. Johnson, Fortson, Satterfield, Wingfield etc. How many of them were ready? Satterfield clearly was not ready even after sophomore year. Fortson may have been ready after his freshman year but he left after junior year, Johnson was ready but could have benefited by one more year. Wingfield should have stuck around one more year. I don't know where each of these guys ranked in their class but would be interested to find out.

Bottom line is you have to be a big time stud to leave for the NBA after one year. Just being McDonalds AA won't get you there.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

I agree that it might be better to get a player that will stick around a while but I wouldn't call any of our kids NBA ready. There are only a couple that we are even recruiting that have the talent to leave after freshman year or even Sophomore year and they probably aren't coming here. Only a select few are really ready for the NBA which is why they have to play college for one year. The rest of the kids need at least two years and most of the time three. We barely have kids ranked inside the top 50 of their class. Those are three year to four year kids. Of course there is the possibiltity that a kid out performs expectations and leaves.

When we get a top 10 recruit I will worry about them leaving early but if they are around top 50 and above I expect to get 3-4 years out of them. There is way too much talk about NBA ready kids. I don't think the number of kids that leave after freshman and sophomore years is a big number at all...but I could be wrong.


If you look at our highly ranked recruits that left early. Johnson, Fortson, Satterfield, Wingfield etc. How many of them were ready? Satterfield clearly was not ready even after sophomore year. Fortson may have been ready after his freshman year but he left after junior year, Johnson was ready but could have benefited by one more year. Wingfield should have stuck around one more year. I don't know where each of these guys ranked in their class but would be interested to find out.

Bottom line is you have to be a big time stud to leave for the NBA after one year. Just being McDonalds AA won't get you there.

If I remember right, Wingfield and Johnson were both ranked in the top 5. Fortson was top 15. Satterfield a little lower.

[shaunsimpson]

The PG and C are obvious needs. The way the Big East is the C position will likely be in foul trouble or will need a breather. I like Vaughn, but I would love to have a player with a skill set closer to Mike Conley at OSU. A quick guard who can get through picks on the defense end, run the offense and drive to the hoop if needed.

I don't care if the third is a SG or a SF, but we need a shooter. I would love one of those guys who just stands outside the three point line and hits shots like Lee Humphrey at Florida.

[waterhead]

If I remember right, Wingfield and Johnson were both ranked in the top 5. Fortson was top 15. Satterfield a little lower.

Well that sounds about right compared to when they left, should have left or could have left.

So you might expect a top 5-10 guy to leave after one year. Top 15-25 after 2 years or so. Top 25-50 some will leave after three others will stay all 4 years. If you were ranked above 50 you will stick around all 4 years on average. Of course there are always exceptions but this may be a good barometer.

[waterhead]

The PG and C are obvious needs. The way the Big East is the C position will likely be in foul trouble or will need a breather. I like Vaughn, but I would love to have a player with a skill set closer to Mike Conley at OSU. A quick guard who can get through picks on the defense end, run the offense and drive to the hoop if needed.

I don't care if the third is a SG or a SF, but we need a shooter. I would love one of those guys who just stands outside the three point line and hits shots like Lee Humphrey at Florida.

That's a good breakdown Shaun. A true point guard is needed no doubt. A post player 6'9 or better whether you call him a C or PF who can defend and rebound. Good talent at these positions are hard to come by...every coach wants them. You want to be two deep at these positions.

As far as a lights out shooter I think we already have him in Davis or Mitchell but insurance can't hurt. A swing man like Mitchell who can shoot the rock will do nicely.

I think Mick is looking for exactly what you are describing and I hope he gets his men.