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MikeInClifton
05-24-2007, 11:34 AM
News Record article (http://media.www.newsrecord.org/media/storage/paper693/news/2007/05/24/Opinion/Staff.Editorial.Time.Taken.To.Graduate.Lagging-2907113.shtml).
qsilvr2531
05-24-2007, 12:00 PM
Coop is the big reason. Not only do alot of UC students coop, but the students that coop also tend to be the students that are most likely to graduate. The two big colleges with required coop (DAAP and Engineering) are two of the three best undergraduate colleges on campus.
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
05-25-2007, 01:28 AM
News Record article (http://media.www.newsrecord.org/media/storage/paper693/news/2007/05/24/Opinion/Staff.Editorial.Time.Taken.To.Graduate.Lagging-2907113.shtml).

It took me 11 semesters (and 1 summer session) from 1969 to 1974 at Purdue.

I guess I was ahead of myself.
jon b
05-25-2007, 10:23 AM
Coop is the big reason. Not only do alot of UC students coop, but the students that coop also tend to be the students that are most likely to graduate. The two big colleges with required coop (DAAP and Engineering) are two of the three best undergraduate colleges on campus.

Nick, I bet that the folks on financial aid and those required to work to pay for their school stretch the numbers out equally to coop. UC will never reach MU or XU in terms of graduation, and they should not. UC has a different mission. XU does not recruit students from the inner city because they cannot afford the tuition and they do not have much to offer. These same kids do not have much interest in Miami and probably could not afford it since you need to live on campus for 2 years.

Combine coop, with these folks, plus all the part timers and just showing incremental improvements would be good IMHO.
Bruce Monnin
05-26-2007, 11:20 PM
Considering all engineering programs are considered 5 year programs from the start, and programs in DAAP tend to be of a 5 year or 6 year duration, I would think none of those students would graduate in four years.

Not a bad idea for an article, but that writing was not good enough for a high school paper, much less a college one. Is our journalism program any good?
jon b
05-27-2007, 10:55 AM
Considering all engineering programs are considered 5 year programs from the start, and programs in DAAP tend to be of a 5 year or 6 year duration, I would think none of those students would graduate in four years.

Not a bad idea for an article, but that writing was not good enough for a high school paper, much less a college one. Is our journalism program any good?

What programs in DAAP are 6 year?
Bruce Monnin
05-27-2007, 01:47 PM
An architecture degree (with co-oping) was 6 years when I went through school.
jon b
05-27-2007, 03:06 PM
An architecture degree (with co-oping) was 6 years when I went through school.

They have restructured it into a 4 year program with co-op: http://www.daap.uc.edu/said/bsarch_careers

(also, just to be clear, I am trying to educate myself with regards to this and I am not arguing or trying to pick a fight)
Bruce Monnin
05-28-2007, 02:32 PM
I see. It looks like they made the bachelor's program four years with four co-op quarters required (in other words, no summers off). Then you are expected to complete another two years to get your Masters. I think it used to take only one extra year to get your Masters.

But hey, it as been a while since my brother went through the program. I'll ask him about it when I see him this weekend.