Eastern Kentucky Game Thread

[Thewhiteboy]

the roster

NO - NAME -POS - HT -WT -CLASS
3 -Robin Mestdagh -G -6-4 -190 -Junior
5 -Joshua Jones -G-F -6-4 -190 -Freshman
10 -Mike Lewis -G -5-7 -140 -Freshman
11 -Papa Oppong -G -6-4 -175 -Junior
12 -Antonio Gilkey -G -6-0 -168 -Junior
15 -Jorge Camacho -F -6-7 -215 -Freshman
20 -Mike Rose -F -6-4 -195 -Senior
21 -Cordaro Ellis -F -6-8 -246 - Freshman
22 -Josh Daniel -G -6-5 -205 -Junior
23 -Dayvon Ellis -G -6-0 -??? -Junior
24 -Josh Taylor -F -6-7 -220 -Junior
31 -Justin Stommes -G-F -6-7 -195 -Sophomore
33 -Deveyon Hunter -F -6-4 -210 -Freshman
44 -Ryan Wiersma -F -6-6 -215 -Senior

[psax889906]

If we tossed it inside for the first ten minutes against a team that led the nation in blocks per game we better feed it into Gates, McClain, Williams and Toyloy ALL NIGHT LONG against these guys!!!... this one might get ugly...

[NorrisHopper30]

Hopefully Gates can have his third solid game in a row.

[Mick's Da Man]

I hope we don't take this team lightly. This is a team UC would beat 9 out of 10 times..........19 out of 20 times.

But EKU has pretty much hung with everyone, is 7-3, has some scorers and good three point shooters. This is the type of team that sneaks up on a top 25 team and steals a game here or there by getting their adrenaline flowing..........kinda like Cleveland State beating Syracuse. Cleveland State (7-4) had 4 losses against some unranked name teams while hanging with those teams...........and beat everyone else handily. EKU is like that.

Still, our low post should dominate if we let them.

[jeffto]

I hope we don't take this team lightly. This is a team UC would beat 9 out of 10 times..........19 out of 20 times.

But EKU has pretty much hung with everyone, is 7-3, has some scorers and good three point shooters. This is the type of team that sneaks up on a top 25 team and steals a game here or there by getting their adrenaline flowing..........kinda like Cleveland State beating Syracuse. Cleveland State (7-4) had 4 losses against some unranked name teams while hanging with those teams...........and beat everyone else handily. EKU is like that.

Still, our low post should dominate if we let them.Agreed. If we're trading low post shots for threes, the math favors them. Mike Rose can make a ton of threes. Stommes can fling 'em too and he's 6' 7". It should be a good game. UC by 10

[Mick's Da Man]

Agreed. If we're trading low post shots for threes, the math favors them. Mike Rose can make a ton of threes. Stommes can fling 'em too and he's 6' 7". It should be a good game. UC by 10

UC by 10 and the naysayers zoom in with their glass half empty comments after the game. :rolleyes:

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

UC by 20. EKU is nowhere near B-East caliber. Big BIG W for UC tonight.

[psax889906]

UC by 35... this team finally starts to put it all together... :)

I love being the optomist of the group, it's so much more fun than being a scrooge... :D

[Mick's Da Man]

UC 105
EKU 2

UC lets up on defense.

[BigDaddyCornHusker]

I'd like to see a couple of the Cats get double digits in rebounds & a season low in turnovers.

UC by 22
+18 in rebounds

[LongTimer]

UC by 10 and the naysayers zoom in with their glass half empty comments after the game. :rolleyes:

UC beats EKU 9 of 10 times??? UC by 10???? How sad is this commentary? This coming out of all the huge Mick lovers?? EKU lost to Fla. International, Texas Tech and Murray St. They barely beat Tenn.-Martin at home. If we don't win this game by at least 20, then things are indeed sad in Bearcal Land.

All you negative Bearcat posters on here better be at the Shoe and have your butts in the seats tonight. Many of you are addicted to this forum and are not attending games. That is obvious! Get off that computer and come to the game!!! If we can get a crowd of 10,000, my estimate goes up to a 30 point win. After handily beating an SEC team and a great WINNING record to boot, an early start time of 6:30, there are no excuses for anything less that 10,000. I am finally listening to all you experts that say win and the fans will come. We'll see tonight! I'm optimistic!

[ralph1950]

UC beats EKU 9 of 10 times??? UC by 10???? How sad is this commentary? This coming out of all the huge Mick lovers?? EKU lost to Fla. International, Texas Tech and Murray St. They barely beat Tenn.-Martin at home. If we don't win this game by at least 20, then things are indeed sad in Bearcal Land.

All you negative Bearcat posters on here better be at the Shoe and have your butts in the seats tonight. Many of you are addicted to this forum and are not attending games. That is obvious! Get off that computer and come to the game!!! If we can get a crowd of 10,000, my estimate goes up to a 30 point win. After handily beating an SEC team and a great WINNING record to boot, an early start time of 6:30, there are no excuses for anything less that 10,000. I am finally listening to all you experts that say win and the fans will come. We'll see tonight! I'm optimistic!


People are allowed to do what they want to do. The Saturday before Christmas is the busiest day of the year for Christmas shopping and many Bearcat fans will be doing that, probably buying UC clothing for the Orange Bowl. How many fans there are in the stands has nothing to do with margin of victory. I will be at the game but my enjoyment of the game is not influenced by how many other people are there.

[LongTimer]

People are allowed to do what they want to do. The Saturday before Christmas is the busiest day of the year for Christmas shopping and many Bearcat fans will be doing that, probably buying UC clothing for the Orange Bowl. How many fans there are in the stands has nothing to do with margin of victory. I will be at the game but my enjoyment of the game is not influenced by how many other people are there.

Com'on MDM, you're making excuses. Give me a break...Christmas Shopping? Has our program sunk so low that people are putting Christmas shopping ahead of us now? Weren't we Christmas shopping back in the years when we averaged 13,176 at every game? It's only a two hour game. Please fans...take two hours out of your shopping today and come root the cats to victory. Stores are staying open to midnight now. You have time to shop afterwards.

One last comment MDM. If you think that fans in the stands has nothing to do with margin of victory then you don't know as much about basketball as I thought. That comment was just stupid!

[LongTimer]

Com'on MDM, you're making excuses. Give me a break...Christmas Shopping? Has our program sunk so low that people are putting Christmas shopping ahead of us now? Weren't we Christmas shopping back in the years when we averaged 13,176 at every game? It's only a two hour game. Please fans...take two hours out of your shopping today and come root the cats to victory. Stores are staying open to midnight now. You have time to shop afterwards.

One last comment MDM. If you think that fans in the stands has nothing to do with margin of victory then you don't know as much about basketball as I thought. That comment was just stupid!

My sincere apology to Micks Da Man. That last post of mine was credited to him and should have went to RALPH.

[Mick's Da Man]

My sincere apology to Micks Da Man. That last post of mine was credited to him and should have went to RALPH.

There is an edit button. :D

[Billy Don]

My sincere apology to Micks Da Man. That last post of mine was credited to him and should have went to RALPH.

We understand or at least I do. It's an old age thing!

[LongTimer]

We understand or at least I do. It's an old age thing!

BD, I'll assume you are referring to Ralph's post and not my TYPO!

[bubbachunk]

Gotta love the horrid scheduling of FSN

[slimm]

I swear I have never ,i mean never, saw a team step out of bounds as many times as this team does just running their offense or starting a move!
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[Billy Don]

I've got the game on full court and if they get the ball to Yancy he could go for 30. Eastern K has no answer for him.

[bubbachunk]

I've got the game on full court and if they get the ball to Yancy he could go for 30. Eastern K has no answer for him.

They switched over now. Also they gotta get the ball to him first.

[Billy Don]

18 to 10 EKU! Give me a break! Work the ball inside! Miller in the game? Stress! I'm having stress!

[Mick's Da Man]

Definitely ugly. Mitchell showed up.

[bubbachunk]

They are playing awful, you can tell they were looking past this team.

[bubbachunk]

Also whoever said Alvin is only good to shoot he just grabbed a board drove and laid the ball in.

[Cat's Meow]

Hmmmm...up in northern Ohio, FSN Ohio is not showing the UC game even though that's what the channel directory says its scheduled..GRRR

[DimitriusChristedes]

8:55 in the first half and we are trying to hit 9 pointers to get back in the lead. From 30 feet.

[DimitriusChristedes]

down ten, mick t'ed up. get it going guys

[Billy Don]

They are playing awful, you can tell they were looking past this team.

UC has a 10 foot height advantage and they shoot and miss 6 3's in a row. Come on Mick tell them to work the ball inside! Down 10 25-15. Great now a T

[bubbachunk]

UC has a 10 foot height advantage and they shoot and miss 6 3's in a row. Come on Mick tell them to work the ball inside! Down 10 25-15. Great now a T

They have 0 patience working the zone that is why.Not to mention our big guys are getting fronted by tiny NKU players

[Mick's Da Man]

It's b-ball 101 guys..........if you can't shoot it from outside, EKU is crowding the low post and daring us to shoot outside and we can't. They won't let us throw it down low.

[bearcat428]

this freaking sucks! i'm about to change the channel

[Billy Don]

There is no way these guys can beat UC.

[Mick's Da Man]

EKU looks better than Duke! That means we're better than Xavier since we're not down by 30.

[bearcat428]

way to get back! feaking lazy asses

[bearcat428]

bearcats have "spurtability" :p

[bubbachunk]

Well it toook us 17 minutes to show up but at least we finally did.

[Brian H.]

I love how the announcers talk about EKU living and dying by the the 3 and UC is the one dying by it right now.

I love how apparently the only pass we can throw is the weak, slow lob. Nothing like giving the D time to rotate over.

OK we just hit a few to cut it to two. Hopefully we can keep it up.

[bearcat428]

nice pass bishop :mad:

what the **** was that?

[Mick's Da Man]

Nice run, terrible final 20 seconds though.

[Mick's Da Man]

nice pass bishop :mad:

what the **** was that?

Yeah, I've about had it with Rashad. He is playing terribly this year. I'd start Vaughn, Dixon, and Davis and 2 big guys.

[fiveONEthree]

end of the 1st half stats...

EKU 36
UC 32

FG
EKU - 48.3%
UC - 36.1%

3PT FG
EKU - 54.5%
UC - 29.4%

FT
EKU - 100%
UC - 100%

REBOUNDS
EKU - 15
UC - 23

TURNOVERS
EKU - 4
UC - 5

POINTS OFF TURNOVERS
EKU - 6
UC - 6

2nd Chance Points
EKU - 11
UC - 14

PTS IN PAINT
EKU - 16
UC - 14

FASTBREAK POINTS
EKU-6
UC -2

BENCH POINTS
EKU - 4
UC - 9

[BearcatCJR23]

I am a huge Mick Cronin fan, but I am beginning to wonder about his playing of Rashad Bishop. IMO this team will be much better not only now, but in the long run if Rashad begins to ride the pine. He brings NOTHING to the team. Seriously look at him and see what he is good for.....his defense is not that good if you look at it and watch him an entire game...good defense was Imac, james white, etc....Bishop is no lock down defender...offensively, he is absolutely woeful....can't dribble, can't pass, can't shoot, can't anything.....I will take Larry Davis and Alvin Mitchell and their non existent defense over him all day long....atleast they have the potential to put the ball in the bucket.....i hate to say it, but Bishop is going to be that player that never gets better in his career.....

Sorry to be negative, but I love this coach and love this team this year minus Bishop.....all the youngsters have great promise, but Bishop drives me nuts.

[bcatwilly]

My biggest issue right now with this team is the apparent lack of ANY coherent offensive strategy. There is no excuse not to be capable of getting the ball inside consistently against Eastern Kentucky. Yes losing Cash Wright was a big blow, BUT I do not believe that we just happen to be cursed with every other guard being incapable of taking several hard dribbles INSIDE the freakin' 3 point line toward the basket so that the defense MUST adjust rather than sit where they want to. IF this does not improve ASAP then they may not only lose this game tonight, but the rest of the way could be pretty ugly at that. Coach Cronin, you better earn your pay and get that problem corrected quickly.

[Brian H.]

OK, my question is, are these recruits really not as good as everyone thought they were or is there a coaching problem. I tend to think the first since I believe Mick is a good coach. Those that are soph's do not apear better than they were and the freshman other than Gates don't really impress me. I see Frosh and Sophs all day today playing quality ball for teams on TV, what is wrong with ours?

And whoever was saying how much better Vaugn had gotten in the offseason I still don't see it. His is a one trick player, shooting threes, he still can not create his own shot without a screen and rarely takes the ball toward the rim unless it is in transition.

[bearcat428]

I am a huge Mick Cronin fan, but I am beginning to wonder about his playing of Rashad Bishop. IMO this team will be much better not only now, but in the long run if Rashad begins to ride the pine. He brings NOTHING to the team. Seriously look at him and see what he is good for.....his defense is not that good if you look at it and watch him an entire game...good defense was Imac, james white, etc....Bishop is no lock down defender...offensively, he is absolutely woeful....can't dribble, can't pass, can't shoot, can't anything.....I will take Larry Davis and Alvin Mitchell and their non existent defense over him all day long....atleast they have the potential to put the ball in the bucket.....i hate to say it, but Bishop is going to be that player that never gets better in his career.....

Sorry to be negative, but I love this coach and love this team this year minus Bishop.....all the youngsters have great promise, but Bishop drives me nuts.
i like coach too, and have faith in him. he must see something in bishop that we don't. he is a freshman, we have a damn young team.

[Mick's Da Man]

Don't feel too bad about the score of our game. Check out some of these:

Georgetown 69
Mt. St. Mary's 58

Georgia 74
Wofford 73 OT

UAB 78
Troy 73

Louisville 64
Minnesota 70

Duke 82
Xavier 64

USC 61
N. Dakota St. 57

Tennessee 79
Belmont 77

Iowa 43
Drake 60

[bearcat428]

OK, my question is, are these recruits really not as good as everyone thought they were or is there a coaching problem. I tend to think the first since I believe Mick is a good coach. Those that are soph's do not apear better than they were and the freshman other than Gates don't really impress me. I see Frosh and Sophs all day today playing quality ball for teams on TV, what is wrong with ours?
they don't have senior leadership. don't underestimate that, from practice to game time.

[BearcatCJR23]

i like coach too, and have faith in him. he must see something in bishop that we don't. he is a freshman, we have a damn young team.

Bishop is a sophomore........and he is awful.....he is a D2 all star talent.

[Thegreatone]

We are going to set the record for illegal screens

[Lobot]

This is pretty sad. We cannot defend this team and can't score against them. I can't wait for the 'Cuse zone after watching this.

Are these guys on a hangover from MSU or what?

[Brian H.]

they don't have senior leadership. don't underestimate that, from practice to game time.

Mike Williams is a Senior, Vaugn is a 3 year starting Junior, Toloy is transfer Junior.

Again not questioning Mick but many teams lack senior leadership and still know how to beat a team that doesn't have a player over 6'7"

[Brian H.]

Don't feel too bad about the score of our game. Check out some of these:

Georgetown 69
Mt. St. Mary's 58

Georgia 74
Wofford 73 OT

UAB 78
Troy 73

Louisville 64
Minnesota 70

Duke 82
Xavier 64

USC 61
N. Dakota St. 57

Tennessee 79
Belmont 77

Iowa 43
Drake 60

This doesn't make me feel better, arguably Minnesota was in worse shape than UC do to NCAA penalties and such and they are undefeated and beat a ranked team today. Xavier got exposed today. Belmont and Drake have been NCAA tourney teams I think the last couple of years so they can stay close and it not be a surprise.

[bearcat428]

Mike Williams is a Senior, Vaugn is a 3 year starting Junior, Toloy is transfer Junior.

Again not questioning Mick but many teams lack senior leadership and still know how to beat a team that doesn't have a player over 6'7"

there's three years of uc game time experience in those three players.

[Lobot]

This isn't so much disappointing as it is irritating. Feed the post

[bearcat428]

This isn't so much disappointing as it is irritating. Feed the post

as long as they win. if uc were to lose this thing, then it's way more than disappointing.

[Mick's Da Man]

EKU throws up a prayer as the shot clock winds down and it goes in. Camacho gets two easy running buckets.

Some dumb foul calls by the officials on us. And some missed calls like over and back and traveling on EKU.

Irritating. I keep wondering if we're going to wake up and finish this game.

[bearcat428]

biggie sure is tearing it up out there..........oh

[catscratchfever]

PLEASE QUIT SHOOTING 3's!!!!

[bearcat428]

yates just yelled f'n ******** after that foul call. that could've been a t

[Brian H.]

I would like to see a stat on how many non-post player shots in the lane this team has this season. Our guards and wings can not drive to the rim to save their life.

[bearcat428]

we beat eku 106-53 last time we played them :rolleyes:

[bearcat428]

air ball bishop :rolleyes:

[Cat's Meow]

I hear ya on the threes. Larry Davis 1-7 from deep...take a hint.

[catscratchfever]

This is embarrassing....do we not have any plays to call? All we do is pass it 3 or 4 times then someone shoots a 3.....

[Lobot]

we beat eku 106-53 last time we played them :rolleyes:

Been 10 years. this is obviously no the same team or coach

[Mick's Da Man]

It is f'in bs. Rose falls down on his own and of course it's UC's fault.

We need to attack the basket over and over and over, slow down the clock by going to the FT line, quit shooting 3's.

We also need to employ a full court press and keep bringing in fresh players and wear them out the last 7 mins.

We will probably lose this game and there will go our tournament hopes. Bad loss.

[Cat's Meow]

Four offensive rebounds in one possession and they don't get a basket....ridiculous.

[Lobot]

Two things: drive the zone and shoot from the foul line. We're not doing either

[Mick's Da Man]

Been 10 years. this is obviously no the same team or coach

Well atleast the current coach isn't puking out his car window.

I might be later after watching this debacle. Reminds me of the Canisius loss year's ago under the puking coach's tenure.

[bearcat428]

Been 10 years. this is obviously no the same team or coach

hence the :rolleyes: .....................

[catscratchfever]

chance to cut it to 2...whatya know...Davis shoots another 3

[bearcat428]

Reminds me of the Canisius loss year's ago under the puking coach's tenure.
i don't remember that?........

[Lobot]

Illegal pick. *^%%^#$%&@#$%#$%^$%^

[bearcat428]

Well atleast the current coach isn't puking out his car window.

doesn't look like he's been doing enough of that lately.....he's gotten HUGE!

[bearcat428]

can't believe vaugn missed that! thought we were finally going to take the lead

[Mick's Da Man]

The effort is there, they just can't hit the broad side of a barn. The shooting isn't there tonight. I've seen effort the last 5 mins or so.

[bearcat428]

The effort is there, they just can't hit the broad side of a barn. The shooting isn't there tonight. I've seen effort the last 5 mins or so.

i don't think it's consistent. one minute their playing defense well, the next they give up an easy bucket

[Lobot]

Why on earth are we not throwing to the foul line against this zone?

[catscratchfever]

we have to hit our foul shots down the stretch if we have any chance

[bearcat428]

Tied!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooooooooo Hoooooooooooo!!!!!!!

[bearcat428]

.............for a second

[Brian H.]

i don't think it's consistent. one minute their playing defense well, the next they give up an easy bucket

If there was consistent effort we would be winning by 20. We should have 10 blocks, doubling them up on the boards, and so many fast break points that the other team would be ready to call it a night. We are a a BEast team with at least 4 players on the roster taller than their tallest.

[catscratchfever]

feed Gates underneath! Do that every time please!!!

[Brian H.]

getting schooled by a 5'7" guy.

[Mick's Da Man]

No offense but that's just lucky. Nobody shoots 3's with a 20 foot arc on them. He's lucky as you know what.

[bearcat428]

If there was consistent effort we would be winning by 20. We should have 10 blocks, doubling them up on the boards, and so many fast break points that the other team would be ready to call it a night. We are a a BEast team with at least 4 players on the roster taller than their tallest.

yep.
and the 5' 90lb dude is really irritating

[bearcat428]

No offense but that's just lucky. Nobody shoots 3's with a 20 foot arc on them. He's lucky as you know what.

lucky once, but................

[bearcat428]

3-point conversion was HUGE by davis

[bearcat428]

and the 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cat's Meow]

Holy ****!!!! Hang on Cats!!!

[bearcat428]

i think mick is going to be puking out a window tonight

[bearcat428]

WTF time warner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[Mick's Da Man]

Fox Sports Ohio sucks!!!!!!!!

[Brian H.]

WTF, FSN just went to Blue Jackets pregame??????

[BearcatDrew]

What the heck FSN???

what happened?

[bearcat428]

that's unbelievable! i'm calling them tomorrow the bastards

[bearcat428]

someone send them this page of the thread!

[BearcatDrew]

anybody with the score?????

[Mick's Da Man]

What's happening in the game?????

[Brian H.]

We just got the reverse Bearcat Bounce.

[bearcat428]

holy! need 2 pts in 4 sec!

[Cat's Meow]

71-71...Larry Davis missed another three, EKU rebounded and Larry commits foul with 4 secs left to send EKU to the line.

[Irishbearcat]

Need an update please. Who's listening to the radio?

[bearcat428]

GATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! overtime!

[jeffto]

73-71 eku 4.3 secs ///////////////////

[Nerf]

Tied with 1/10 second to go! OT!

[Mick's Da Man]

Vaughn length of the floor, alley-oop dunk by Gates!!!!!!

[bubbachunk]

OMG I cant believe we are missing this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cat's Meow]

Seriously?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Mick's Da Man]

I'm listening to WLW online. Going to overtime.

[bearcat428]

it was an "alleyupe" from vaugn but don't know how to spell that

[Mick's Da Man]

Seriously?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Yes. Tied in regulation. Going to OT. Whew.

[BearcatDrew]

they better put the game back on.. or i'm going to be really really pissed

[Lobot]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooh Drive loft flush OT

[catscratchfever]

Keep feeding Gates inside! They cannot stop him!!

[bubbachunk]

they better put the game back on.. or i'm going to be really really pissed

Why blue jackets hockey is such a big draw.

[Mick's Da Man]

Gates fouled and at the line. He makes both. 75-73.

[bearcat428]

Keep feeding Gates inside! They cannot stop him!!

he's definately been the man!!!!!!!!!!

[bearcat428]

cats are going to stomp them in o.t.

[MDW79]

Wtf?!!!!! They not only cut to hockey, but it's not even a game it's a damn pre game show!!! This is fu$#in unbelievable. :mad::mad::mad:

[Mick's Da Man]

Mike Williams fouled. At the line. Makes both. 77-73.

[Cincycats93]

EKU was up 2 with 4.6 left...vaughn went the length of the floor and alleyopped it to Gates with .1 left.....OT cats are up 2

[bearcat428]

i hate the blue jackets now

[Mick's Da Man]

77-75.

Mike Williams fouled again and at the line.

[Mick's Da Man]

Williams makes both. 79-75.

[catscratchfever]

Cats up 4 with the ball..................

[Cat's Meow]

Clutch!

Here we go!

[Mick's Da Man]

EKU turns it over on a bad pass.

[bearcat428]

3 to go 82-75 cats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[catscratchfever]

Dixon 3!!!!
up 7!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MDW79]

Cats up 7!!! Bout damn time.

[bubbachunk]

cats up 7 with 3 minutes left on a 3 by dixon :D

[Mick's Da Man]

Dixon drills a 3. 82-75. Woo-hoo

[Cat's Meow]

I knew I liked this kid for a reason! I'll forgive his abysmal shooting in regulation.

[bearcat428]

crap!!!!!!!!! i'm outa beer!

[Mick's Da Man]

EKU shooting air balls. 2:17 to go. EKU missing shots but getting their own rebounds. Williams finally gets the rebound.

[catscratchfever]

1:26 to go in the game...Cats up 7

[Cincycats93]

UC up 7 just over a minute left

[Mick's Da Man]

1:34, UC misses shot, EKU with the ball. Time out EKU with 1:26 left in OT. 82-75.

[bearcat428]

must be hard to rebound over guys 2' shorter?

[bubbachunk]

1:26 left and uc still up 7. nku has the ball

[Brian H.]

crap!!!!!!!!! i'm outa beer!

Time to break in to the Buffalo Trace!!

[Mick's Da Man]

EKU 11-22 on 3's. Unreal. By comparison, UC is 11-36. Ridiculous.

[hammerbearcat1]

The Columbus Blue Jacekts are now on Fox Sports Ohio. WTF!

[catscratchfever]

this EKU team reminds me of the Northern Arizona team that we faced in the first round of the NCAA tourney several years ago...
It is hard to beat a team that shoots 3's this well

[bearcat428]

Time to break in to the Buffalo Trace!!

:p only if there's another o.t.

[Mick's Da Man]

Mike Williams with his 16th rebound on an EKU airball. He is fouled. Going to the line. 1:11 left.

[bubbachunk]

For all of the Mike Wiliams haters he now has 16 rebound and bunch of clutch free throws.

[catscratchfever]

I hope Dan and Chuck, or someone at the radio show at Montgomery Inn asks Mick why his team shot 36 three pointers against a team that they had such an advantage against inside...

[Mick's Da Man]

Misses first one. Makes second one. 83-75.

[bubbachunk]

It is official this game is now over. We got lucky tonight but a win is a win.

[Mick's Da Man]

Under 1 minute. Another EKU missed three. They ran out of gas. UC with the ball. UC taking time off the clock and EKU not fouling.

[bearcat428]

vaugn to the line with 13 seconds to go

[bearcat428]

CATS WIN!!!! woooooooooooo hoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hammerbearcat1]

We dodged a huge bullet. Like they said on TV, Mick feels that UC needs 10 wins going into the Big East and this would have it made it only nine.

[Mick's Da Man]

13.9 second to go. Bishop misses 3, Vaughn rebounds and gets fouled. He goes to line.

Makes both. 85-75. This game is over.

[Lobot]

We got it in OT. Game over. Whew!

[Cat's Meow]

Survive is the perfect word for this game.

[catscratchfever]

Mick does deserve a lot of credit for the play call at the end of regulation though...that was well executed!

[Mick's Da Man]

Mike Lewis of EKU is only a frosh. Someone call him and tell him to transfer to UC. I like his rainbow 3's. LOL.

[Lobot]

Kudos to Mikey for the 16 Rebs

[bearcat428]

williams 16 rebounds
gates 18 points

alley-oop to gates to take it to o.t. will be a highlight of the year. too bad we all missed it. thanks twc, you bastards.

[ZCat]

Busy now, but someone post the direct link to give these guys feedback. WTH!!! I got Fox Sports CINCINNATI so this exact thing would NOT happen.

As far as us shooting 3's, they were playing zone, but WAY too many 3's. and way too many open looks for EKU.

[bearcat428]

Mike Lewis of EKU is only a frosh. Someone call him and tell him to transfer to UC. I like his rainbow 3's. LOL.

that's the best idea i've heard all night!
but i think he'd get hurt playing in the big east night in and night out.

[bearcat428]

Busy now, but someone post the direct link to give these guys feedback. WTH!!! I got Fox Sports CINCINNATI so this exact thing would NOT happen.


screwed by columbus again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ZCat]

Mick does deserve a lot of credit for the play call at the end of regulation though...that was well executed!

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[Mick's Da Man]

We could have shot 3's like Memphis. They lost to Syracuse. Memphis was 7-33 for 21% on 3's.

[Ding Chavez]

I'm just glad I have Insight Cable and was able to watch on ESPN 360. I got it turned on just in time to see the alley-oop.

[ccmcat79]

The Columbus Blue Jacekts are now on Fox Sports Ohio. WTF!

I am with you, WTF are they thinking????? Switching away to BlueJacket pre-game with 30 seconds left in a tied game. More BlueJacket Fans in Cincinnati than Bearcat Basketball fans? Do they have untrained primates making these decisions for FSN or is it Time Warner?

:mad::mad::mad:

Direct TV may be a good decision after all!

[jkwuc89]

I did not see the game because I was at a family Christmas event tonight. Regardless, there is no way, NO WAY that the Bearcats should need OT to beat EKU.

If I'm Coach Cronin, I immediately make this team run until they puke. And I am talking tonight!. Then, I run them again tomorrow until they puke. This team needs to develop some serious toughness. And they need to develop a killer instinct.

[bearcat428]

We could have shot 3's like Memphis. They lost to Syracuse. Memphis was 7-33 for 21% on 3's.

crap! i forgot that game was on! i was going to flip back and forth. good win by syracuse. too bad memphis will be looking to rebound against us! i hate being the rebound (actually i don't ;) )

[ccmcat79]

Busy now, but someone post the direct link to give these guys feedback. WTH!!! I got Fox Sports CINCINNATI so this exact thing would NOT happen.


http://www.timewarnercable.com/cincinnati/customer/feedback.html

[Mick's Da Man]

I did not see the game because I was at a family Christmas event tonight. Regardless, there is no way, NO WAY that the Bearcats should need OT to beat EKU.

If I'm Coach Cronin, I immediately make this team run until they puke. And I am talking tonight!. Then, I run them again tomorrow until they puke. This team needs to develop some serious toughness. And they need to develop a killer instinct.

I gotta give EKU some credit. I thought they were pretty good. They were unconscious from three point range, and ran that stupid Princeton offense with backdoor cuts, along with playing that goofy 1-3-1 zone that gives opponents problems. We couldn't figure it out and we ended up shooting 35 threes.

I thought EKU played very well. They would have given alot of "name" teams trouble tonight. You can't coach making 3's. It just happens.

[bearcat428]

If I'm Coach Cronin, I immediately make this team run until they puke. And I am talking tonight!. Then, I run them again tomorrow until they puke. This team needs to develop some serious toughness. And they need to develop a killer instinct.
i agree. but as i stated earlier in this thread...there's no leadership on the floor. it's all on mick

[Cincycats93]

Anyone with ESPN360.com needs to go online and watch the final 4.6 of regulation. It was a great play drawn up by Mick. So much better than the long pass and heave up a 3 that so many teams do. Great coaching in the final 4.6!

[bearcat428]

I gotta give EKU some credit. I thought they were pretty good. They were unconscious from three point range, and ran that stupid Princeton offense with backdoor cuts, along with playing that goofy 1-3-1 zone that gives opponents problems. We couldn't figure it out and we ended up shooting 35 threes.

I thought EKU played very well. They would have given alot of "name" teams trouble tonight. You can't coach making 3's. It just happens.

yeah, but seeing a 5' guy that's 90 lbs rebound and make shots is freaking wrong!

[bearcat428]

Anyone with ESPN360.com needs to go online and watch the final 4.6 of regulation. It was a great play drawn up by Mick. So much better than the long pass and heave up a 3 that so many teams do. Great coaching in the final 4.6!

maybe twc should email that to us......

[ccmcat79]

I gotta give EKU some credit. I thought they were pretty good. They were unconscious from three point range, and ran that stupid Princeton offense with backdoor cuts, along with playing that goofy 1-3-1 zone that gives opponents problems. We couldn't figure it out and we ended up shooting 35 threes.

I thought EKU played very well. They would have given alot of "name" teams trouble tonight. You can't coach making 3's. It just happens.

Agreed, EKU did play very well tonight. You CAN, however coach ball passing, motion off the ball and defense. The Bearcats could learn some lessons from that. The players are relying too much on talent and not enough on a disciplined game plan. Mick needs to get their attention somehow!

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

But it's a W and I'll take that any day.

It's nice to W when you don't play your best game.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I did not see the game because I was at a family Christmas event tonight. Regardless, there is no way, NO WAY that the Bearcats should need OT to beat EKU.

If I'm Coach Cronin, I immediately make this team run until they puke. And I am talking tonight!. Then, I run them again tomorrow until they puke. This team needs to develop some serious toughness. And they need to develop a killer instinct.

Off night. But still W. They're 9-2.

[bearcat428]

But it's a W and I'll take that any day.

It's nice to W when you don't play your best game.

and a young team didn't lose composure and when it went to o.t., they played as if they've been there before. and they haven't.

[bearcat428]

mick makes a good point in the post game. yancy is starting to play with passion, like a hicks or a martin. the difference is those guys never touched passion as freshman.

[bearcat428]

how many minutes did biggie have? :eek:

[catscratchfever]

I was kind of curious...since fall quarter grades were just received, any word on if any of the players (football or basketball) didn't make the cut?
Biggie??

[bearcat428]

I was kind of curious...since fall quarter grades were just received, any word on if any of the players (football or basketball) didn't make the cut?
Biggie??

you may have hit the nail on the head!

[Pocket Hercules]

how many minutes did biggie have? :eek:

ZERO - but I think you knew that already.

We should have been throwing over the top to him all night long, but he didn't sniff the floor. I know, I know, "he's weak and wouldn't have been able to secure the ball". Maybe, but he certainly would have been more efficient than 11/36 from deep.

Why did we wait until overtime to start getting a little motion on offense? As soon as we did Yancy was able to take the entry every time. Until then there was zero space inside.

Oh well - we as fans certainly got our "money's worth" (unless you were watching the game on TV in Ohio). Mick is absolutely right in saying that sometimes you are supposed to lose, and this was one of them. The team, for all of its flaws, could have easily packed it in and folded like a wet cardboard box when EKU hit those triples near the end of the shot clock as the last minutes ticked away. They kept fighting and showed a lot of poise in OT when it mattered. A win versus a loss in these kinds of games can be all the difference at the end of the year when trying to get into a tournament. This would have been a very bad loss (a la CSU vs. SYR) but we were able to avoid it. I'll take it any way I can get it, personally.

[jkwuc89]

Let's try not to start any rumors about grades without anything to back it up. I suspect McClain's lack of PT was more due to what he's not doing in practice versus anything academic related.

[Not Guilty]

I think EKU was a terrible matchup for Biggie, especially on the defensive end of the floor. It was smart of Mick to keep him on the bench...

[Irishbearcat]

Thanx for the updates guys. I did send a comment to TWC, btw.
Our offense was pretty bad. I still can't figure out why we didn't try to drive inside more or go to the big guys. Then again, I'm not paid millions to worry about it.
Great game by Gates and Williams, and Davis saved our hides with his threes and the three point play he had before the lights went out.
I think you can chalk this game up to we weren't mentally prepared to match the intensity of a 'weak' team.
Oh yeah, Mick was pissed off the whole game. LOL

[bearcat428]

Let's try not to start any rumors about grades without anything to back it up. I suspect McClain's lack of PT was more due to what he's not doing in practice versus anything academic related.

good point, but we're looking at two games in a row w/o biggie right?

[bcatwilly]

good point, but we're looking at two games in a row w/o biggie right?

Don't think so, pretty sure Biggie played for a couple minutes against Miss. State the other other night. I get paranoid when people throw out any random rumor, but if it was known that Biggie was unable to play due to grades then why even be suited up tonight as he was.

[bearcat428]

Don't think so, pretty sure Biggie played for a couple minutes against Miss. State the other other night. I get paranoid when people throw out any random rumor, but if it was known that Biggie was unable to play due to grades then why even be suited up tonight as he was.

i wasn't sure about miss. state, that's why i questioned it. i agree with your last point.

[GoBearcats31]

I was at the game and noticed Alvin Mitchell had his face buried in his hands for much of the second half, then he was gone. Was he sick? At first I thought he was upset he wasn't playing, but since he disappeared maybe he was just sick (especially b/c 5 points in 6 minutes wasn't bad). Say anything on TV or radio about him?

[bcatwilly]

I was at the game and noticed Alvin Mitchell had his face buried in his hands for much of the second half, then he was gone. Was he sick? At first I thought he was upset he wasn't playing, but since he disappeared maybe he was just sick (especially b/c 5 points in 6 minutes wasn't bad). Say anything on TV or radio about him?

Mick said in the post game press conference that Alvin had gotten the stomach flu and was not feeling well at all tonight.

[Irishbearcat]

I got sick watching us play in the first half. Didn't they outscore us like 16-2 early on? Yikes.

[ralph1950]

I got sick watching us play in the first half. Didn't they outscore us like 16-2 early on? Yikes.

Yes, but thanks to the genius of Mick Cronin UC out scored EKU by 2 during the last 4.6 seconds.

[OnCampus]

Mitchell was definitely sick. He threw up in the trash can right in front of the students during pre-game warm-ups. As for Biggie, I heard he has a sprained ankle, but that's unsubstantiated. Bishop looked bad again. The play at the end of the game was pretty nice, but the fact that it was to tie the game against EKU detracted from it a bit.

Here's a stat:
3Pt: 11-36
FG: 27-70
Over half of the shots taken were 3's. Why?

[Irishbearcat]

Yes, but thanks to the genius of Mick Cronin UC out scored EKU by 2 during the last 4.6 seconds.

:D Good thing we have FSO so I don't miss a minute of the action.

[Irishbearcat]

Mitchell was definitely sick. He threw up in the trash can right in front of the students during pre-game warm-ups. As for Biggie, I heard he has a sprained ankle, but that's unsubstantiated. Bishop looked bad again. The play at the end of the game was pretty nice, but the fact that it was to tie the game against EKU detracted from it a bit.

Here's a stat:
3Pt: 11-36
FG: 27-70
Over half of the shots taken were 3's. Why?

I know Bishop made a three (I believe), but if Mick hasn't told him to NOT take that shot, and to attack the paint...then I'm seriously disappointed in Mick.

[LongTimer]

mick makes a good point in the post game. yancy is starting to play with passion, like a hicks or a martin. the difference is those guys never touched passion as freshman.

Disagree on this. Martin was lost offensively, but touched passion big time as a defender and shot blocker. Hicks looked like a deer in the head lights as a freshman. I was thinking "OVERRATED" big time about him.

[LongTimer]

This was a good news/bad news game. The team hung tough and gutted one out. This should help them down the road when they get in tight ballgames. Now the bad news. It was Eastern Kentucky! We should never struggle with Eastern Kentucky! We should have never been in a situation to have to pull one out of our butt at the end. But, it's a W and we move on to another juggernaut on Monday!

Was anyone else impressed with their coach? He seemed to be coaching his butt off. He was in guys faces at times, but very positive at other times. His game management and use of timeouts at strategic moments was impressive. Yes he lost, but he impressed me as a fine young coach and he nearly pulled off a big upset. I look forward to following his career. I think he could be a good one!

[Scheids21]

Disagree on this. Martin was lost offensively, but touched passion big time as a defender and shot blocker. Hicks looked like a deer in the head lights as a freshman. I was thinking "OVERRATED" big time about him.

Hicks was never highly rated though was he?

[Pie Hole]

I was at the game tonight and made a conscious effort to watch Mike Williams on and off the ball. It is very apparent that the game is still moving too fast for him. The box score will suggest differently (15 rebounds and 13 points) but his defense was absolutly horrible tonight. Whoever he garded went around him like he was a pylon. I'm sure this has a lot to do with his injury last year or the simple fact that he is still not in basketball shape. I don't know if you could pick it up on camera, but I'm telling you he was moving a step or 2 behind on most plays. Did anyone else notice this?

[Pie Hole]

Hicks was never highly rated though was he?

I believe Hicks was Mr. Basketball in North Carolina his Senior year. He was a high flying dunking machine. It was apparent during his Freshman year that he had never been shown "tough love" before. Huggins was all over him as soon as he hit campus. I remember watching him get in games during mop up time and he looked absolutly petrified. It looked like he was scared to death to make a mistake (thus the deer in headlights look).

[Scheids21]

I believe Hicks was Mr. Basketball in North Carolina his Senior year. He was a high flying dunking machine. It was apparent during his Freshman year that he had never been shown "tough love" before. Huggins was all over him as soon as he hit campus. I remember watching him get in games during mop up time and he looked absolutly petrified. It looked like he was scared to death to make a mistake (thus the deer in headlights look).

Alright...thats why I asked.

[LongTimer]

Hicks was never highly rated though was he?

Yes, he was highly rated. He was the North Carolina High School player of the year. We all know the quality of basketball in NC. I don't remember his ranking, but I believe he was just outside the Top 50.

[LongTimer]

I was at the game tonight and made a conscious effort to watch Mike Williams on and off the ball. It is very apparent that the game is still moving too fast for him. The box score will suggest differently (15 rebounds and 13 points) but his defense was absolutly horrible tonight. Whoever he garded went around him like he was a pylon. I'm sure this has a lot to do with his injury last year or the simple fact that he is still not in basketball shape. I don't know if you could pick it up on camera, but I'm telling you he was moving a step or 2 behind on most plays. Did anyone else notice this?

Yes, I saw the same thing. He was slow and lethargic....but he was not the only one!

[BeastUC]

LOL,i called this as a close game and went,but i was surprised nobody else wanted to storm the court but me.
I'd rather beat EKU in ot then lose to WKU by 14 or at home to Cleveland State.I'll leave that to the ranked BEAST teams.

[London 'Cat]

Yes, I saw the same thing. He was slow and lethargic....but he was not the only one!

In fairness to Williams, he was defending EKU's point guard during those times. It's not fair to ask a PF to guard a PG out on the perimeter. And EKU played four guards pretty much all night. It happened when EKU set a screen on Williams and he switched off the screeneer to the guard. Then, recognizing the mismatch, the guard would penetrate past Williams. Good recognition by EKU's players. But, from what I saw, it appeared that none of the 'Cats were able to stay in front of their guards.

[Billy Don]

I missed all the excitement of the Fox cut off! I had 2 TV's going and 2 DVR's and had the game on from Fox and full court both. I was watching full court at the time and didn't know Fox had cut the game off on the other TV. Had to go back this morning and play the DVR with the fox game to see what happened. Brings back memories of the Hedi game.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Hicks was never highly rated though was he?

Top 40 to 50 range. Highly regarded as a recruit.

[Thewhiteboy]

A well coached Cincinnati basketball team, I was pleased with the effort the players gave Mick tonite.......

[LongTimer]

A well coached Cincinnati basketball team, I was pleased with the effort the players gave Mick tonite.......

If winning is the only determining factor of a team being well-coached, then you are correct.

[Mick's Da Man]

Hicks was never highly rated though was he?

Hicks was rated around 40, going off my fading memory. :D His ranking was similar to Maxiell's.

[Mick's Da Man]

LOL,i called this as a close game and went,but i was surprised nobody else wanted to storm the court but me.
I'd rather beat EKU in ot then lose to WKU by 14 or at home to Cleveland State.I'll leave that to the ranked BEAST teams.


I called it too. I said it would be tougher than people think and here's why:

EKU was running a combination of the old Princeton offense / Beilien's WVU offense. Back door cuts and 3's at will. EKU was unconscious from three point range at times. ANY TEAM would have had trouble with them tonight. Some of those rainbow 3's were just ridiculous.

What makes them so tough is you don't see their style of offense and defense that much, and it catches a team off guard trying to adjust to it.

Had EKU shot like 37% on 3's (which is about normal), the score would have been about 9-10 points different.

Ask Xavier about an opponent getting some hot three point shooting? It happens.

Alot of good teams have close calls against teams like this. Ask #21 Baylor who slid by Texas Arlington (4-5) last night 79-76. Ask Tennesse who escaped Belmont (4-4) 79-77 last night.

We're not the only ones who go through this.

I thought it was a gutsy win with a very nice drawn up play by the coach to get us to OT. That develops confidence between the players and coaching staff when stuff like that happens. I also see Gates starting to get some fire in his belly.

[slimm]

I saw the same problem that has been here for a while now. a huge lack of 40 min. effort,hustle and interest. I dont know if its coaching or the players. great coaching for the last 4.5 sec. and overtime, but what about the first 39 min 55.5 sec? there is no cohesive offense and no urgency on defense (most of the time). when bob knight was commentating last game, I found myself saying "yeah, thats right" to when he was pointing out obvious flaws in simple, standard coaching/player techniques about UC. as in pump fakes,ball rotation,etc. Im just disappointed that this team performs at the level it does with as much "perceived talent" that it has. just my OPINION.
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[Irishbearcat]

It's obvious some of the players were not well coached in HS. Mick needs to go back to the basics and teach some of the more simple concepts of basketball...not limited to defense, blocking out, passing, good shot vs bad shot, etc.

[BearcatAlum1]

Top 40 to 50 range. Highly regarded as a recruit.

Hicks was a 4* recruit and ranked as the 11th best small forward according to Scout. He had offers from many schools, including Uconn, Florida State, and Tennessee.


Alum1

[BearcatAlum1]

It's obvious some of the players were not well coached in HS. Mick needs to go back to the basics and teach some of the more simple concepts of basketball...not limited to defense, blocking out, passing, good shot vs bad shot, etc.

WOW! You hit the nail on the head. So many of these "talented, athletic, recruits," have not experienced REAL COACHING. Most of these kids come from City League type programs (Gates, Davis, Dixon, etc.) and they just don't get "great" coaching. They aren't taught fundamentals, and they don't "understand" how the game is played. It takes time and repetition. You can't just tell a player to start using ball fakes and think he will do it every time. Repetition. Players must mature. Athleticism can only get you so far.


Alum1

[BearcatAlum1]

After looking at the box score, I think this is more typical of how the minutes will be distributed throughout the season, especially when we play the Uconns, Pitts, and Louisvilles. We were down early, and Mick had no choice but to play the "best" matchups for the entire game.

Mike Williams: 40 mins
Rashad Bishop: 26 mins
Yancy Gates: 30mins
Dion Dixon: 36 mins
Deonta Vaughn: 44 mins
Larry Davis: 30 mins
Darnell Wilks: 2 mins
Branden Miller: 2 mins
Alvin Mitchell: 6 mins
Steve Toyloy: 9 mins

McClain didn't see 1 minute. I know the style of play did not fit his attributes, but it would've been interesting to put him in the paint and force the dribble drive witout any from those guarding the shooters. Also, take away Wilks and Miller, and only 6 people longed significant minutes. As Mick said after the Charleston Southern game, "if you don't do what is asked and expected, you'll be on the bench."

Alum1

[BeastUC]

Alot of good teams have close calls against teams like this. Ask #21 Baylor who slid by Texas Arlington (4-5) last night 79-76. Ask Tennesse who escaped Belmont (4-4) 79-77 last night.

We're not the only ones who go through this.

I thought it was a gutsy win with a very nice drawn up play by the coach to get us to OT. That develops confidence between the players and coaching staff when stuff like that happens. I also see Gates starting to get some fire in his belly.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad u also check out other teams.In fact,we are not the only team in the conference to get challenged by mid-majors.
Might UCONN needed a fluke call to beat Buffalo by 4.ND trailed Boston U almost the entire game before winning by 7.Cuse lost to Cleve St,UL lost to WKU,SHU lost to IUPUI,Rutgers lost to Binghampton,PC lost to Northeastern,etc.But that's the scary Big East for ya.
This game lets UC know that they should never enter a game being arrogant as if it will be a cakewalk.

[misterfresh]

Hicks was a 4* recruit and ranked as the 11th best small forward according to Scout. He had offers from many schools, including Uconn, Florida State, and Tennessee.


Alum1

He was fairly highly regarded. But he was completely snubbed by all the North Carolina schools.

[Irishbearcat]

I'm still shocked we won the game. We weren't ready to play, settled for outside shots, and clearly didn't follow Mick's gameplan early on.
Last years' team would have lost this game. I think going through BE play this year will help the team mature, and hopefully this won't happen next year.

[CincyBearcat95]

Alot of good teams have close calls against teams like this. Ask #21 Baylor who slid by Texas Arlington (4-5) last night 79-76. Ask Tennesse who escaped Belmont (4-4) 79-77 last night.

We're not the only ones who go through this.

I thought it was a gutsy win with a very nice drawn up play by the coach to get us to OT. That develops confidence between the players and coaching staff when stuff like that happens. I also see Gates starting to get some fire in his belly.

BeastUC also said (not sure why it didn't quote right) "I'm glad u also check out other teams.In fact,we are not the only team in the conference to get challenged by mid-majors. Might UCONN needed a fluke call to beat Buffalo by 4.ND trailed Boston U almost the entire game before winning by 7.Cuse lost to Cleve St,UL lost to WKU,SHU lost to IUPUI,Rutgers lost to Binghampton,PC lost to Northeastern,etc.But that's the scary Big East for ya.
This game lets UC know that they should never enter a game being arrogant as if it will be a cakewalk."

Great post and I agree with you whole heartedly. A lot of the top teams drop a non-con game early in the season. Its not always a bad thing as loosing early in the season does not affect basketball like it does football. Sometimes, its good to get that bad taste so you learn that you never want it again. Same goes for your last sentence - we cannot afford to think that any game will be a cakewalk. Other teams did that to us last year and we won a few because they did.

[shaunsimpson]

Louisville lost by 14 to a team from the other side of Kentucky (WKU) so things like this happen. Our great teams in the 90s went through these games and lost a few as well. The problem is that we need each and every win so these seem more magnified. We escaped with a W and a W is a W regardless of how it was done. We have played a lot of games in a few days and hopefully we can get to Memphis and still have our legs.

[BeastUC]

Louisville lost by 14 to a team from the other side of Kentucky (WKU) so things like this happen. Our great teams in the 90s went through these games and lost a few as well. The problem is that we need each and every win so these seem more magnified. We escaped with a W and a W is a W regardless of how it was done. We have played a lot of games in a few days and hopefully we can get to Memphis and still have our legs.

Having a week off prior to that game should help.I hope.

[jeffto]

Folks, we won the game. Wasn't pretty, but winning ugly still counts!

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Folks, we won the game. Wasn't pretty, but winning ugly still counts!

Just like the W in the opener to the 2005-06 season. The other team SHOULD have won but UC prevailed in OT.