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Irishbearcat
07-22-2007, 10:08 PM
I haven't heard a whole lot on him. I'm wondering where he fits in this year. I think he could be a good player. Any thoughts on what position he ultimately fills, and what contributions he will add next year.

Thegreatone
07-22-2007, 10:29 PM
I think the word is he will be a 3. He is bigger then I thought. He is a left hander which I think adds an elimate. I believe he can provide 5 solid minutes, maybe 5 minutes as a freshman, maybe 10.

Irishbearcat
07-22-2007, 10:32 PM
That would be nice. From the little that I have heard, I think he is one who has good upside, as opposed to Mitchell who I think will contribute from day 1.

Irishbearcat
07-22-2007, 10:35 PM
BTW- I'm a HUGE ND football fan (if you can't tell), but I also love Cincy basketball, football, and the school in general. It was hard to watch our team lose their butt to ND last year.
Nice to see UC be able to rebound from what has been a tough stretch.

Inchickinkick
07-23-2007, 07:51 AM
Rashard Bishop could develop in too a power forward, serious muscle addage,
john williamson can we compare him too. What kind of reach does this kid have? Is he long arms or short arms?

tophat
07-23-2007, 12:07 PM
He's strictly a 3, should never be viewed as a 2 or 4. He might play alot more than 5 minutes this year at 3, which is up in the air more than any other position. He shows promise, but it's too early to tell.

Mick's Da Man
07-23-2007, 12:59 PM
I've heard he does all the little things and has a well rounded game. As with all freshmen, defense will determine how much he plays. He has alot to learn, but having so many intangibles will help his UC career tremendously. Look for him to be a serious contributor in the coming seasons.

gocats45
07-23-2007, 04:29 PM
I see him as being Micks replacment for Conner Barwin. I agree with the 5 minutes a game. From what I have seen he is strictly muscle at this point. I would compare him body wise, but defenitly not skill wise to Eric Hicks.

Corporateballa
07-23-2007, 04:49 PM
This kids is a 3. No factor as a freshman. He reminds me of Roy Bright.

Irishbearcat
07-23-2007, 08:04 PM
Don't even get me started on Roy Bright. Yikes.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
07-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Don't even get me started on Roy Bright. Yikes.

Very solid 3 man on the court. Played very well in (Vaccaro's) Roundball Classic here in 2004.

93cat
07-23-2007, 11:57 PM
if he is comparable to bright (physically) that's a good thing ( or pete mickeal, another not super athletic but solid small forward, with an awesome rarely seen celebratory dance ). It means he will likely contribute solidly after a few years. There are enough "stars" on this team already for the next 2 years with Mitchell, Wilks, Gates, Vaughn, Williams, McClain and whomever else signs in the next year. The problem will more likely be minutes this year for some of these guys so they can develop.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
07-24-2007, 06:53 AM
if he is comparable to bright (physically) that's a good thing ( or pete mickeal, another not super athletic but solid small forward, with an awesome rarely seen celebratory dance ). It means he will likely contribute solidly after a few years. There are enough "stars" on this team already for the next 2 years with Mitchell, Wilks, Gates, Vaughn, Williams, McClain and whomever else signs in the next year. The problem will more likely be minutes this year for some of these guys so they can develop.

Bright and Mickeal both contributed solidly in their first year at UC. I think Bishop is versatile enough to do the same.

http://www.bearcatnews.com/recruiting/bio/353 BTW he's the second Bearcat ever to hail from Paterson NJ - Jack Ajzner played for UC in the early 1970's and came from Eastside HS in Paterson.

General Woundwort
07-24-2007, 08:47 AM
Bright and Mickeal both contributed solidly in their first year at UC. I think Bishop is versatile enough to do the same.


Well, Mickeal spent two years in Junior College before he came to UC, so it is a pretty poor comparison.

Bright was on a team that was thin up front, and so he wound up getting minutes at PF. I doubt Bishop will need to do so.

On the other hand, Bishop spent last season playing PG, an experience that can only help him. I doubt he will ever see much time at the position in college, but it can't hurt that he spent a year thinking about how to get teammates involved in the offense.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
07-24-2007, 09:15 AM
Well, Mickeal spent two years in Junior College before he came to UC, so it is a pretty poor comparison.

Bright was on a team that was thin up front, and so he wound up getting minutes at PF. I doubt Bishop will need to do so.

On the other hand, Bishop spent last season playing PG, an experience that can only help him. I doubt he will ever see much time at the position in college, but it can't hurt that he spent a year thinking about how to get teammates involved in the offense.

Bishop was HS class of 2006 and played as 5th year Prep in 2007. So he's 1 year out of HS.

Mickeal and Bright contributed their first year at UC. And so will Bishop.

Inchickinkick
07-24-2007, 09:29 AM
Roy Bright never played in Cincinnati,can anybody confirm this statement-Mike

jeffto
07-24-2007, 09:49 AM
Roy Bright never played in Cincinnati,can anybody confirm this statement-Mike

Bright played in 33 games as a freshman at UC. Dismissed from team for having a gun on campus.

Jtarchcincy
07-24-2007, 10:45 AM
Bishop was HS class of 2006 and played as 5th year Prep in 2007. So he's 1 year out of HS.

Mickeal and Bright contributed their first year at UC. And so will Bishop.

I fully expect Bishop to give 10-15 solid minutes a game as the backup SF this year... 6'-6" athletic guy. More of a role guy/athletic defender early on that needs to work on offense. I expect him to be an Immanuel Mcelroy kind of guy in his time here. He fits that mold.

Inchickinkick
07-24-2007, 12:07 PM
your right your right, It's like mr. bright did'nt even exist in my brain.

tophat
07-24-2007, 01:03 PM
Bishop has far better ball skills than Bright and thus has more postential at the 3 position than Bright had.

General Woundwort
07-24-2007, 01:24 PM
Mickeal and Bright contributed their first year at UC. And so will Bishop.

The Sun and a 60-watt light bulb both contribute heat and light to the environment. The difference between the two is non-trivial, however.

Suggesting that the Pete Mickeal's junior season and Roy Bright's freshman season are equally valid standards of comparison for what Bishop is likely to do as a freshman is just obtuse. Of course, you know that already.

I'm willing to wager that Bishop's stat line will be much closer to Bright's first season (14 mpg, 4 ppg) than Mickeal's first season, in which he led the team in scoring, rebounding, and steals, and was 10th in the nation in FG%.

Inchickinkick
07-24-2007, 01:24 PM
Bright just wanted too bang bang bang, but not on the basketball coart, If you understand what i am writing.
Does any body know what roy's doing?

General Woundwort
07-24-2007, 01:50 PM
Bright just wanted too bang bang bang, but not on the basketball coart, If you understand what i am writing.
Does any body know what roy's doing?

Bright is at Delaware State now. Hopefully, he is able to get his degree and move on with his life. The firearm situation was massively stupid (he is lucky no one got hurt), but he didn't seem to be a bad kid at all. Most of us do stupid things when we are 19. If we are lucky, we get to learn from them and move on.

Oldtimer_UC_fan
07-24-2007, 01:57 PM
Bright is at Delaware State now. Hopefully, he is able to get his degree and move on with his life. The firearm situation was massively stupid (he is lucky no one got hurt), but he didn't seem to be a bad kid at all. Most of us do stupid things when we are 19. If we are lucky, we get to learn from them and move on.

I don't remember carrying a gun around with me when I was 19, nor did any of my friends. Do these guys really think anything good can come of doing that? Are their lives so dangerous that they think that's the answer?

jeffto
07-24-2007, 02:11 PM
Does any body know what roy's doing?

Roy is mentioned as a possible NBA player coming out of a small college.
http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba/nba-draft/nba-draft-news/part-two-small-school-players-report-ar44916.html


I think stupidity is one of the symptoms of that disease called "youth."

93cat
07-24-2007, 08:56 PM
my original point was intended to be that it will be great if bishop is as good as bright in his first year and it's even better if he develops into mickeal type player after a year or 2. i actually think he will get less minutes than bright did and score less. this team is very deep especially between 6'3 and 6'8 , and assuming warren, mitchell , vaughn and gentry all get serious minutes (with mitchell getting some at 3) there is still williamson, sikes, and wilks (who i bet will not be ready to contribute major this year at a buck ninety five) competing for small forward minutes. my point is a player getting 10ish minutes on a decent team IS contributing or they wont make it on the floor at all except during blow outs.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
07-24-2007, 09:18 PM
The Sun and a 60-watt light bulb both contribute heat and light to the environment. The difference between the two is non-trivial, however.

Suggesting that the Pete Mickeal's junior season and Roy Bright's freshman season are equally valid standards of comparison for what Bishop is likely to do as a freshman is just obtuse. Of course, you know that already.

I'm willing to wager that Bishop's stat line will be much closer to Bright's first season (14 mpg, 4 ppg) than Mickeal's first season, in which he led the team in scoring, rebounding, and steals, and was 10th in the nation in FG%.

Both contributed their first year. So will Bishop. Said it and meant it.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
07-24-2007, 09:19 PM
Are their lives so dangerous that they think that's the answer?

Often times, YES is the answer to your question.

schottjy
07-24-2007, 09:58 PM
I personally find it refreshing that we actually don't HAVE to play some incoming kids. Especially after the last two years of throwing any "able" body on the court.

Irishbearcat
07-25-2007, 10:52 AM
Bright and Mickeal both contributed solidly in their first year at UC. I think Bishop is versatile enough to do the same.

http://www.bearcatnews.com/recruiting/bio/353 BTW he's the second Bearcat ever to hail from Paterson NJ - Jack Ajzner played for UC in the early 1970's and came from Eastside HS in Paterson.


They were both tough.

IKnowMoreThanYou
07-25-2007, 11:20 AM
Bishop did play some PG a bit on his prep team this past season and at 6-6 and 225lbs. he has the frame to get minutes right away at SF. He does have a similar frame to Pete Mickeal though he isn't the rebounder/defender Pete was, he has the ability to develop those skills. He is a better shooter/ball handler now and is the kind of guy who will contribute but whose efforts might not always be visible in the box score. He and Alvin Mitchell are close friends and are always around one another.

waterhead
07-25-2007, 02:03 PM
If Bishop can even give 5-10 productive minutes per game at the 3 as a freshman I think we are in a good situation. We have Mitchell, Wilkes, Sikes, and Williamson who could also potentially put in 5-10 minutes or more at the 3. Somebody is bound to step up and take over as "the man" eventually. It will be better for the future of UC basketball if it's Wilks or Bishop.

Same goes for Mitchell over Gentry and Biggie over Adam H.

I am not saying to give the freshman the starting position if it's close between two players...I'm just saying I hope they are good enough to win their positions outright.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
07-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Bishop did play some PG a bit on his prep team this past season and at 6-6 and 225lbs. he has the frame to get minutes right away at SF. He does have a similar frame to Pete Mickeal though he isn't the rebounder/defender Pete was, he has the ability to develop those skills. He is a better shooter/ball handler now and is the kind of guy who will contribute but whose efforts might not always be visible in the box score. He and Alvin Mitchell are close friends and are always around one another.

And he was the 2006 HS POY in northern NJ area plus #1 ranked (by one source) player in NYC area that year.

thekid226
07-29-2007, 06:16 PM
i dont know if any of u guyz have really seen bishop play but ive been watchin him since his senior year at JFK High School and he was straight ridiculous...he averaged 22 pts 12 reb 4 ast and 2 blks a ball game...he straight was disrespectful to some guyz, just dunkin on him, posting, and knockin down the smooth jumper...

game against st. benedict's prep his senior year was the game that opened college scouts eyes...scouts came out to watch st. benedict's players cuz they had about 7 of them goin Division I and he straight destroyed them by himself...34 points against Duke's Lance Thomas, Marquette's David Cubillan, Villanova's Corey Stokes, Seton Hall's Eugene Harvey, come on now he destroyed them...on the AAU circuit he took home many MVP awards...

he is the future of Cincinnati basketball if he doesnt get 13-16 minutes a night i would be very disappointed...he has a college ready body