Recruiting surprises to come on April 15

[DMoney_70]

Mick is in studio with Mark Amazon. He just landed from a recruiting trip that had him & Tony S. in Florida last night. Any thoughts on who they were visiting?

[psax889906]

Beatty? That's the only name we really "know" from Florida that is out there in connection with UC...

[BearcatAlum1]

^^^^ Seems logical.

Any prospects in the 2010 or 2011 classes from Florida?

[DMoney_70]

Mick said there would be some surprises for the spring recruiting period and said "a couple" of guys.

[ralph1950]

Mick said on 1530 Homer this afternoon he will have some recruiting surprises on April 15, signing day.

[BearcatAlum1]

"A couple" means two, right? I hope he means "a few!"

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Hopefully the "surprises" are guys who can dribble the ball and AREN'T afraid to go hard to the rim and get fouled

[CincyBeerCo]

Beatty? That's the only name we really "know" from Florida that is out there in connection with UC...

Isnt Riek down in Florida?

[BearcatAlum1]

Isnt Riek down in Florida?

At IMG? I believe you're correct.

[Bearcat Jeff]

Seems like a long time away. Wish something would slip out.

[Bearcats_Rule]

Seems like a long time away. Wish something would slip out.


ME TOO!!!! I dont like surprises... I always peeked at my xmas presents when I was a kid! and this is even more of a temptation to know! :D

[Cats4Ever]

:D

can't wait!

it's all he has to give now....................

[Tom Alverson]

"A couple" means two, right? I hope he means "a few!"

I think he said one or two.

[red_n_black_attack]

Isnt Riek down in Florida?

That was my first thought too! Probably means Biggie is gone thoug and I hate giving up that height.

[bearcat josh]

how about Kenny Boynton for 2009 and brandon knight for 2010.....now that would be a suprise!

[coach]

alvin mitchell's brother.

[Doss]

Brandon Knight for sure! For sure!

[behrlezt]

Isnt Riek down in Florida?

Wow...If Mick lands Reik for real this time i am going to be estatic!!!! I can't wait to see what Mick can do with real talent eventually...my advice to Mick: Keep scheduling weak non conference to add to the win total....

[Lobot]

Here's a surprise. Mike and Alvin are both gone. See current thread on this.

article at http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog04&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ada6629a0-7bd0-4605-8869-25a20cb5adabPost%3a2bd9ab68-c170-4a0e-b019-2017eb24fe43&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

[BtotheU]

alvin mitchell's brother.

Mitchell & Williams...gonzo. Check it on B Kock's enquirer blog.

[Carthage World]

Maybe Seth Curry will be among the surprises

[Thegreatone]

Riek, CUrry, Kilpatrick!?

No, I hate to think this but I dont see losing Mike as a positive at all. Only Riek or Curry would make me happy.

[jlr1523]

In a way, I hate to see Alvin go because I think he was going to be an offensive contributor the next two years. I guess you can't blame Mick with the way Mitchell's attitude was. It's a shame it didn't work out.

[JasonS]

I am sure Mick wants guys in the program he can count on. Alvin has shown, more that once, that he is unreliable. The Bearcats also had a few too many guys in the SG/SF mold. Bishop was the only true SF (if you don't count Wilks) so this should help with roles on the team next year and minutes guys can expect to play. Look for more of Wilks at the 3 with Gates and Thomas at the 4 and 5 if we want to go big and Davis or Dixon playing the 3 if we want to go smaller. I think the Bearcats are better off without Mitchell and I am interested to see who Mick brings in.

Also, this is going to help balance the classes out more.

[Thegreatone]

Mitchell was unathletic. He just doesnt get it. I would rather have his scholorship. I am sad to see Mike go, his entire career never scratched the potential.

[jlr1523]

Maybe Seth Curry will be among the surprises

I'd be happy with that. The cats could always use a pure 3pt shooter.

[CincyBeerCo]

Riek, CUrry, Kilpatrick!?

No, I hate to think this but I dont see losing Mike as a positive at all. Only Riek or Curry would make me happy.

Riek, Vinson and Momo would make me giddy

[Thegreatone]

Didnt somebody say they heard MIck say Riek would be back in play a couple days ago....

[cornelius]

Is it possible Mick was in Florida checking on Kyryl Natyazhko from Florida?

[Thegreatone]

Is it possible Mick was in Florida checking on Kyryl Natyazhko from Florida?

That would anger some X fans I know they have high hopes on landing this guy,

[Bu7ch]

I hope we get at least one penetrator (not counting what Cash might be). I'm tired of watching the offense settle for jumpers.

[slimm]

i cant get too excited...april 15 has always meant 1st quarter estimated taxes. this day sucks & is just slightly depressing. hopefully the good news will perk up my day.

[NorrisHopper30]

Mitchell was unathletic. He just doesnt get it. I would rather have his scholorship. I am sad to see Mike go, his entire career never scratched the potential.

Mitchell was athletic. He just didn't get it.

[CincyBearcat95]

Didnt somebody say they heard MIck say Riek would be back in play a couple days ago....

I don't think they were quoting anything of fact. I think it was more that IMG and Riek are in Florida so maybe Mick was visiting him.

Personally, that would be a big swing from where Mick was during the season when he said the person he thought was coming wasn't.

We can hope though.

[mboston67]

Heres a link to a recent story on Darius Smith.

http://ilprepbullseye.com/page39.html

[Lobot]

Is it possible Mick was in Florida checking on Kyryl Natyazhko from Florida?

I'd like to buy a vowel please Pat.....

[Thegreatone]

Mitchell was athletic. He just didn't get it.

Absolutely wrong, Your usually right on most things but Mitchell was slow and couldnt jump.

[CincyBeerCo]

Absolutely wrong, Your usually right on most things but Mitchell was slow and couldnt jump.

Don't completely disagree, but Mitchell had two of the more vertical put back dunks of the season.

[London 'Cat]

I hope we get at least one penetrator (not counting what Cash might be). I'm tired of watching the offense settle for jumpers.

Yes, the 'Cats need a player that will penetrate defenses and attack from within instead of shooting over the top of the defense.

[red_n_black_attack]

That would anger some X fans I know they have high hopes on landing this guy,

All the more reason to go after this alphabet soup. Miller seems to be able to spot talent, I don't mind piggybacking their leg work and stealing a good kid.

[ralph1950]

John Wall and Lance Stephenson would be 2 nice surprises.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

John Wall and Lance Stephenson would be 2 nice surprises.

Absolutely impossible that either would sign with UC.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Heres a link to a recent story on Darius Smith.

http://ilprepbullseye.com/page39.html

D Smith seems impressed with UC's links to Marshall HS (George Wilson and Joe Stiffend).

I think UC has a real good chance to land him.

1st team All-State and best player in Chicago this season.

[ralph1950]

Tyreke Evans to transfer to UC after Calipari takes the UK job will be a surprise.

[ralph1950]

D Smith seems impressed with UC's links to Marshall HS (George Wilson and Joe Stiffend).

I think UC has a real good chance to land him.

1st team All-State and best player in Chicago this season.

I understand the George Wilson part but Joe Stiffend? He beat XU on a last second shot but that was pretty much his UC career. Was Joe some Chicago high school legend?

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I understand the George Wilson part but Joe Stiffend? He beat XU on a last second shot but that was pretty much his UC career. Was Joe some Chicago high school legend?

Yes - he was a star at MHS who led them to state tourney in early 1980's.

Quite famous at Marshall HS.

[GoCats1994]

I would settle for a lock-down defender.


(Had to throw that in...since so far there are 3 pages of nothing but "we need more offensive production" posts)

[columbus_bearcat]

Tyreke Evans to transfer to UC after Calipari takes the UK job will be a surprise.

I can't see Calipari taking the UK job. Next season, Memphis will probably be pre-season #1 or at least top 5. But I'm sure he'll be able to play the game well enough to get a raise.

[jeffto]

I can't see Calipari taking the UK job. Next season, Memphis will probably be pre-season #1 or at least top 5. But I'm sure he'll be able to play the game well enough to get a raise.He's making $3.5 million now isn't he? I don't think he gets a raise. He hasn't won any championship of value.

[slimm]

I can't see Calipari taking the UK job. Next season, Memphis will probably be pre-season #1 or at least top 5. But I'm sure he'll be able to play the game well enough to get a raise.

I can see it. he can stay & retire there as a king having accomplished everything short of a NCAA championship but it comes with the perception of having done it in an inferior conference or jump the the SEC & Kentucky with all that goes along with it. perfect fit for a guy with a huge ego & love form money & attention

[longtimefan]

I understand the George Wilson part but Joe Stiffend? He beat XU on a last second shot but that was pretty much his UC career. Was Joe some Chicago high school legend?

They went to the same high school. Darius mentioned both George Wilson and Joe Stiffend in an interview. Joe Stiffend is very highly thought of there. I would hope that George is involved in the recruiting, I'm sure he would love to see UC back where it was when he played.

[swilsonsp4]

how about Kenny Boynton for 2009 and brandon knight for 2010.....now that would be a suprise!

Boynton signed with Florida, per ESPN-U.com.

[Irishbearcat]

I don't see a big name coach coming to UK. They'll be in the same spot as Billy G in two years. Calipari isn't coming, neither is the UF coach. KY might want to start thinking outside the box, like perhaps Bob Knight. (smiling)

[Forsure21]

They will end up brining in Travis Ford who has 1 NCaa tournament win.

[the_one_32]

hmm seems like my source wasnt so wrong afterall.... he said mitchell and mike would most likely be gone as well as maybe mcclain, davis and bishop and that we will sign a PG and riek will be a bearcat hmm i dont sound so stupid now huh

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

hmm seems like my source wasnt so wrong afterall.... he said mitchell and mike would most likely be gone as well as maybe mcclain, davis and bishop and that we will sign a PG and riek will be a bearcat hmm i dont sound so stupid now huh

Will such extensive turnover on the roster, UC is setting itself up for loss of another scholarship due to APR rule (must be 925 or higher).

[CatsClaw]

Will such extensive turnover on the roster, UC is setting itself up for loss of another scholarship due to APR rule (must be 925 or higher).

Clearly he knows what he is doing or else he wouldn't have dismissed Mitchell. Williams might be on pace to graduate.

[Not Guilty]

Clearly he knows what he is doing or else he wouldn't have dismissed Mitchell. Williams might be on pace to graduate.

I believe Williams has already graduated. Also, if players leave in good academic standing, I don't think it hurts your APR, or at least not much.

[BearcatAlum1]

Can anyone post or provide a link to the NCAA APR Rule? There has been much speculation but very little fact regarding the Rule. I'd imagine that MC is well aware of the Rule.

Here is another question: does anyone think it might be "worth" losing a scholarship for the 2010 class if we can add solid recruits to the 2009 class? I mean, if we only lose 1 scholarship for 2010 class, that might not hurt us that much.

I'd rather have Darius Smith in the 2009 class and miss a scholarship for the 2010 class (our Seniors would be Bishop, Wilks, Davis, McClain, and Ibr.Thomas). That means we can use 4 scholarships and keep another for the 2011 class. In fact, we probably wouldn't even use the scholarship because we need spread our classes more.

Just a thought.

Alum1

[Kindog202]

Can anyone post or provide a link to the NCAA APR Rule? There has been much speculation but very little fact regarding the Rule. I'd imagine that MC is well aware of the Rule.

Here is another question: does anyone think it might be "worth" losing a scholarship for the 2010 class if we can add solid recruits to the 2009 class? I mean, if we only lose 1 scholarship for 2010 class, that might not hurt us that much.

I'd rather have Darius Smith in the 2009 class and miss a scholarship for the 2010 class (our Seniors would be Bishop, Wilks, Davis, McClain, and Ibr.Thomas). That means we can use 4 scholarships and keep another for the 2011 class. In fact, we probably wouldn't even use the scholarship because we need spread our classes more.

Just a thought.

Alum1

Yes, I was thinking the same thing too. I always thought that the APR hit would only come if a player did not graduate or transfered without being in good academic standing. If I remember correctly, didn't Crowell leaving not effect it because he was in good academic standing?

[shaunsimpson]

Can anyone post or provide a link to the NCAA APR Rule? There has been much speculation but very little fact regarding the Rule. I'd imagine that MC is well aware of the Rule.

Here is another question: does anyone think it might be "worth" losing a scholarship for the 2010 class if we can add solid recruits to the 2009 class? I mean, if we only lose 1 scholarship for 2010 class, that might not hurt us that much.

I'd rather have Darius Smith in the 2009 class and miss a scholarship for the 2010 class (our Seniors would be Bishop, Wilks, Davis, McClain, and Ibr.Thomas). That means we can use 4 scholarships and keep another for the 2011 class. In fact, we probably wouldn't even use the scholarship because we need spread our classes more.

Just a thought.

Alum1

Probably the best link I found:
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/resources/file/eb783f0bf33dcd3/APR%20FINAL%205-2-08.pdf?MOD=AJPERES


How is APR calculated?
Each Division I sports team receives an APR. An APR of 925 roughly projects to
a 60 percent graduation success rate. To calculate the APR, every student-athlete
is tracked by eligibility and retention, the two most reliable factors in predicting
graduation. Those who do well in the classroom and stay in school earn two
points. Those who pass but do not return to school earn one point. If a studentathlete
fails academically and leaves school, their team loses two points. If a
student-athlete returns to school later and graduates, the school earns one bonus
point. The team’s APR is calculated by dividing the total points earned in a year by
the total points possible.


Here you go:
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=330

Academic reform home page:
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=276

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=331

[slimm]

I can't see Calipari taking the UK job. Next season, Memphis will probably be pre-season #1 or at least top 5. But I'm sure he'll be able to play the game well enough to get a raise.

hmmmmm........what will calipari do?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4026848

[Mick's Da Man]

I can't see Calipari taking the UK job. Next season, Memphis will probably be pre-season #1 or at least top 5. But I'm sure he'll be able to play the game well enough to get a raise.

He loses Antonio Anderson (10 ppg, 5 rpg, 4.5 apg) and Robert Dozier (13 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 37% on 3's) to graduation and possibly Tyreke Evans to the draft. His top recruit has only an oral commitment and can follow Cal wherever he goes.

[Mick's Da Man]

what will calipari do?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4026848

WWCD? :D

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