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Rock
04-19-2009, 01:28 PM
I keep looking on Bearcatnews.com under Recruiting (basketball) to keep informed. There are 3 reports since the beginning of the year! One on January 3, one on February 4 and one on March 18th. WOW!! You would think that with the signing date of April 15, that there should be "something" to report. I might as well go elsewhere to keep up!!:(:eek::confused::mad:

bearcat josh
04-19-2009, 01:54 PM
I keep looking on Bearcatnews.com under Recruiting (basketball) to keep informed. There are 3 reports since the beginning of the year! One on January 3, one on February 4 and one on March 18th. WOW!! You would think that with the signing date of April 15, that there should be "something" to report. I might as well go elsewhere to keep up!!:(:eek::confused::mad:

everybodys news here gets blasted by other people.

Forsure21
04-19-2009, 01:58 PM
Personally I don't care about the lack of updates but if somebody wanted to take it over I think that would be pretty cool. I remember like 7 years ago when I would check every 5 minutes for updates. I haven't clicked the recruiting section 10 times in the last 3 years. I forget about it until somebody mentions something like this.

Thewhiteboy
04-19-2009, 02:25 PM
I keep looking on Bearcatnews.com under Recruiting (basketball) to keep informed. There are 3 reports since the beginning of the year! One on January 3, one on February 4 and one on March 18th. WOW!! You would think that with the signing date of April 15, that there should be "something" to report. I might as well go elsewhere to keep up!!:(:eek::confused::mad:

Its just that.... I think Mike is starting too slack :-)

jon b
04-19-2009, 02:39 PM
I think everyone should stop paying for the service. That will show them.

Bcatfan08
04-19-2009, 02:46 PM
The signing period starts on April 15th. They don't have to sign on that date. We may not hear anything until the signing period is over.

Joe C.
04-19-2009, 03:10 PM
The signing period starts on April 15th. They don't have to sign on that date. We may not hear anything until the signing period is over.

When is the end of the signing period?

Bearcat Cafe
04-19-2009, 03:12 PM
May 26th...........................

TmacGoCats
04-19-2009, 03:37 PM
I think everyone should stop paying for the service. That will show them.

Exactly, these people have real jobs too...they can't spend their whole life devoted to bearcatnews.

NorrisHopper30
04-19-2009, 03:39 PM
May 26th...........................

May 20th..........................................

Cats4Ever
04-19-2009, 03:57 PM
Heard that Biggie is gone - text messages going around.

Another player gone - as the world turns.

2 recruits highly ranked that are gone early.

That's not a good thing.

DimitriusChristedes
04-19-2009, 04:00 PM
I don't lament the loss of biggie. His best and only offensive move was throwing the ball at the rim.

Not Guilty
04-19-2009, 04:03 PM
Heard that Biggie is gone - text messages going around.

Another player gone - as the world turns.

2 recruits highly ranked that are gone early.

That's not a good thing.

I don't really see how its a bad thing, especially if its going to result in a talent upgrade...

catscratchfever
04-19-2009, 04:05 PM
I don't really see how its a bad thing, especially if its going to result in a talent upgrade...

I would say John Riek is a big upgrade over Biggie...

CroninCrazy
04-19-2009, 04:13 PM
Heard that Biggie is gone - text messages going around.

Another player gone - as the world turns.

2 recruits highly ranked that are gone early.

That's not a good thing.

I know that he is looking to go to St. Joe's.

mike pinzki
04-19-2009, 04:15 PM
I don't lament the loss of biggie. His best and only offensive move was throwing the ball at the rim.

I enjoyed the description of his best offensive move. It made me laugh.

Kindog202
04-19-2009, 04:30 PM
[QUOTE=Cats4Ever;77322]

Another player gone - as the world turns.

As far as I know, Mitchell, Williams, Belton and now rumored to be Biggie (trying to be PC until an official announcement from the school). Are you saying there is another one in addition to these that are leaving or did you mean Biggie?

Cats4Ever
04-19-2009, 04:32 PM
no - biggie is the one now leaving.

that's 3 of the 6 recruits from 2007.

slimm
04-19-2009, 04:38 PM
that's 3 of the 6 recruits from 2007.

this could be the 4/15 surprise

Doss
04-19-2009, 04:43 PM
I wish Biggie good luck at St. Joseph's College of ME. As a DIII school he can play without sitting out. He will be The Big Monk on campus.

Not Guilty
04-19-2009, 05:26 PM
no - biggie is the one now leaving.

that's 3 of the 6 recruits from 2007.

One was hurt, so that is misleading. Players leave schools all the time. I'm glad the roster's talent will be upgraded...

Joe_Pong
04-19-2009, 05:58 PM
One was hurt, so that is misleading. Players leave schools all the time. I'm glad the roster's talent will be upgraded...

There's no guarantee that it will be.

People were saying the same glowing things about guys like Biggie and everyone else who is leaving that they are now saying about the guys we are supposedly replacing them with.

Bcat007
04-19-2009, 06:30 PM
If the recruiting deadline is May 20th, the earliest we can expect to hear something "here" would be the 21st. Then we will be talking yet again about the talent we missed out on. We already are now with some of our targets signing with other schools. Hope not, but see it coming. For a staff to be recruiting all season as Mick says, the silence is deafening. The "surprise" will be who we end up with that is left over. Would be nice to break that trend for once.

shaunsimpson
04-19-2009, 06:37 PM
The deadline for a LOI is then, but they can still join up with scholarship players. There is a ton of stuff still going on and it will be interesting to see what pans out.

Bcatfan08
04-19-2009, 07:22 PM
[QUOTE=Cats4Ever;77322]

Another player gone - as the world turns.

As far as I know, Mitchell, Williams, Belton and now rumored to be Biggie (trying to be PC until an official announcement from the school). Are you saying there is another one in addition to these that are leaving or did you mean Biggie?

Belton didn't leave because he wanted to. His playing days are over. He received a medical hardship. That had nothing to do with problems or transferring. No one could have prevented that. Williams could have applied for a sixth year, but that was a long shot and the NCAA hasn't been exactly kind to UC in the past few years. UC isn't losing Williams, he doesn't have any years left to play. Biggie and Mitchell are the only preventable losses.

Tom Alverson
04-19-2009, 08:13 PM
I think everyone should stop paying for the service. That will show them.

Double your money back if not satisfied.

Cats4Ever
04-19-2009, 08:21 PM
[QUOTE=Kindog202;77333]

Belton didn't leave because he wanted to. His playing days are over. He received a medical hardship. That had nothing to do with problems or transferring. No one could have prevented that. Williams could have applied for a sixth year, but that was a long shot and the NCAA hasn't been exactly kind to UC in the past few years. UC isn't losing Williams, he doesn't have any years left to play. Biggie and Mitchell are the only preventable losses.

ummmmmmmmm, what are you talking about? It is still 3 out of the 6 gone. I don't understand your post.

CincyBearcat95
04-19-2009, 10:21 PM
[QUOTE=Bcatfan08;77360]

ummmmmmmmm, what are you talking about? It is still 3 out of the 6 gone. I don't understand your post.

I think his point is that only 2 are transferring. Belton will never play basketball for anyone and Williams is out of eligibiity.

Really, I believe he's getting to the point that only 1 person is being "forced" to transfer and that would be Biggie and we don't know for sure he is being "forced." He may have just been told that he is not going to see any playing time and has decided he will transfer.

Mitchell was kicked off the team for disciplinary reasons. So although he technically has to transfer, I think of it differently. He's put himself in that situation and I presume that we would not ask him to transfer if he was being a good member of the team.

Does that make sense? I am not sure if I'm doing a decent job at explaining someone else's post.

DelhiBearcat
04-19-2009, 10:33 PM
I wish Biggie good luck at St. Joseph's College of ME. As a DIII school he can play without sitting out. He will be The Big Monk on campus.

I thought they were talking about the Mount.

TmacGoCats
04-19-2009, 11:07 PM
I thought they were talking about the Mount.

Haha, i wouldn't mind having him join our team...we need a big dude.

Thegreatone
04-19-2009, 11:23 PM
I thought they were talking about the Mount.

That is my stomping grounds. I would love to dunk on his tiny head.

ucjoerat140
04-20-2009, 07:53 AM
Is Biggie leaving for sure or is that just everyone's guess?

Bearcat Jeff
04-20-2009, 08:01 AM
Belton hopes to play again but it is unlikely. As Shaun said there are many behind the scenes scenarios playing out that have the recruiting situation muddled for so many schools. U.C. included. The staff is putting a ton of effort into this late signing period. There are a hand full of recruits that have essentially taken the process hostage. Once a couple of these decisions are made there will be an almost instant domino effect. On the pg front, programs are scrambling to get any available pg that can provide valuable minutes. It seems that there is a priority and premium being placed on this.

Bearcat Cafe
04-20-2009, 08:04 AM
To add to the PG discussion, I don't think I've ever seen an offseason where so many big programs either have absolutely nobody to run the point or have no backup plan on the roster.

Mick's Da Man
04-20-2009, 08:44 AM
To add to the PG discussion, I don't think I've ever seen an offseason where so many big programs either have absolutely nobody to run the point or have no backup plan on the roster.

Gee, you'd think UC was the only one considering the tone of this board at times. :rolleyes:

bearcatbret
04-20-2009, 09:41 AM
no - biggie is the one now leaving.

that's 3 of the 6 recruits from 2007.

That class was essential just to get bodies into the program. It is probably a good thing to thin them out to more evenly spread the players across classes. However, I would like to see Biggie stay and redshirt this year. That would allow him to become healthy and become more coordinated in his game.

shaunsimpson
04-20-2009, 10:06 AM
That class was essential just to get bodies into the program. It is probably a good thing to thin them out to more evenly spread the players across classes. However, I would like to see Biggie stay and redshirt this year. That would allow him to become healthy and become more coordinated in his game.

I feel dirty thinking that players leaving may be a good thing, but I agree with it.

DMoney_70
04-20-2009, 10:12 AM
That class was essential just to get bodies into the program. It is probably a good thing to thin them out to more evenly spread the players across classes. However, I would like to see Biggie stay and redshirt this year. That would allow him to become healthy and become more coordinated in his game.

At this point, I'm not sure why you waste any more resources and effort on McClain. He's shown no improvement at all. For the 1 or 2 guys you can name that didn't break out until their 3rd year, there's many that never did make it and it was evident after 2 years.

He's just NOT progressing at all. There should be some improvement to hang our hats on. It's a shame because we were all pretty excited when he chose UC.

CincyBeerCo
04-20-2009, 11:20 AM
Not that I have any info that there is any UC connection, other than he had committed to play in Cincinnati, and a lot of other BEast teams were recruiting him, but Kevin Parrom was granted a full release from his LOI by Xavier.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=onthetrail&recruitId=43432

shaunsimpson
04-20-2009, 11:54 AM
I didn't hear that he was fully released, but I knew that he applied (if that is the right word) for it. I have heard nothing about him and UC.

bearcatbret
04-20-2009, 12:25 PM
I suspect that if Parrom was granted a full release, he will follow Miller to AZ.

Mick's Da Man
04-20-2009, 12:51 PM
I suspect that if Parrom was granted a full release, he will follow Miller to AZ.

In Rivals revised end of year rankings, Parrom fell from the top 100 to the 130's I believe.

Not Guilty
04-20-2009, 01:23 PM
Parrom apparently choked his coach at one point in his high school career. Interesting that X, with their high moral standards (BS), would recruit a player like that...

shaunsimpson
04-20-2009, 02:02 PM
At least he didn't steal a dog......like Cocain dealer and Xavier PG Finn:

http://www.tristate-media.com/articles/2007/09/28/warricknews/news/01castle.txt

This was not Finn’s first brush with the law. While at Xavier University in 2005, Finn was charged with stealing his former girlfriend’s dog, a misdemeanor theft. However, that charge was dropped after the woman decided not to pursue the case.

Not Guilty
04-20-2009, 02:05 PM
At least he didn't steal a dog......like Cocain dealer and Xavier PG Finn:

http://www.tristate-media.com/articles/2007/09/28/warricknews/news/01castle.txt

This was not Finn’s first brush with the law. While at Xavier University in 2005, Finn was charged with stealing his former girlfriend’s dog, a misdemeanor theft. However, that charge was dropped after the woman decided not to pursue the case.

Or at least he isn't a racist, drunk pothead like Drew Lavender. Or accused of rape like CJ Anderson.

There are a lot of examples at Xavier, and they happen everywhere. I just get sick of the holier-than-thou attitude of their fans and the media insistence that they do it the "right way."

bearcatbret
04-20-2009, 02:06 PM
Parrom apparently choked his coach at one point in his high school career. Interesting that X, with their high moral standards (BS), would recruit a player like that...

If UC were even pursuing a high school kid who even had a faint rumor around him about any controversy, that would be all the news media here would be talking about for months.

Lobot
04-20-2009, 03:36 PM
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Talk about off topic. C'mon guys.

shaunsimpson
04-20-2009, 03:45 PM
That is my fault - I can't pass up the opportunity to bring up the Xavier guy who got arrested for stealing a dog. Funny stuff.

DelhiBearcat
04-20-2009, 05:24 PM
If UC were even pursuing a high school kid who even had a faint rumor around him about any controversy, that would be all the news media here would be talking about for months.

Those days are gone. If Huggins was coach and we were Top 20, then yes, you are absolutely correct. Nowadays...I kinda doubt it would raise any stink at all. For example, no one would say anything about the coach choking if Mick brought in Parrom. There'd be a lot of X/UC talk (a guy leaving one for the other), but I doubt UC would get drug through the mud for months over it.

TheLivingLegend
04-20-2009, 11:40 PM
Haha, i wouldn't mind having him join our team...we need a big dude.

The mount needs a Legend on the court. unfortunately for them that opportunity, on there part, was turned down.

slimm
04-21-2009, 05:55 AM
The mount needs a Legend on the court. unfortunately for them that opportunity, on there part, was turned down.

I think john jacobs have a year of eligibility left

ralph1950
04-21-2009, 09:25 AM
Vinson committed to UMass last night, fell in love with Derek Kellogg.

subflea
04-21-2009, 09:35 AM
But how could that happen? Someone here swore he was down to Maryland and UC.

bearcatbret
04-21-2009, 09:42 AM
Vinson committed to UMass last night, fell in love with Derek Kellogg.

First Smith and now Vinson? I guess UConn does have unlimited minutes on their phone plan.

CincyBeerCo
04-21-2009, 09:48 AM
First Smith and now Vinson? I guess UConn does have unlimited minutes on their phone plan.

UMass....not UConn....

bearcatbret
04-21-2009, 10:18 AM
oops, my bad. Just jumping at an opportunity to bash calhoun.

CincyBeerCo
04-21-2009, 10:24 AM
oops, my bad. Just jumping at an opportunity to bash calhoun.

Feel free to continue :)

catsfan32
04-21-2009, 10:28 AM
Interesting he would committ to Umass over UC and Maryland

catsfan32
04-21-2009, 10:37 AM
Also the only cite that has him committed is Scout. Rivals and Espn haven't announced his committment. Just interesting info.

slimm
04-21-2009, 11:15 AM
Also the only cite that has him committed is Scout. Rivals and Espn haven't announced his committment. Just interesting info.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/recruiting/2009/04/terrell_vinson_commits_to_umass.html

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 11:54 AM
Interesting he would committ to Umass over UC and Maryland Quality of the competition for playing time.

Bearcat Jeff
04-21-2009, 11:58 AM
I am not disappointed in this. Vinson's foot speed is lacking to play in the BEast in my opinion. He may prove me wrong but I don't think he would have upgraded the U.C. team.

CincyBeerCo
04-21-2009, 12:00 PM
I am not disappointed in this. Vinson's foot speed is lacking to play in the BEast in my opinion. He may prove me wrong but I don't think he would have upgraded the U.C. team.

His passing abilities would have been a HUGE upgrade. Not crushed since I didnt expect him, but he definitely would have helped.

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 12:05 PM
if mick doesnt go after lance stephenson harder than ever and we end up with kavon lytch i might just give up... I would honestly rather just sign no one than take lytch... he has no offensive game, cant run the floor, really does nothing well but rebound and he's 3 inches too short.... i know he's the same height as eric hicks but common do u really think he can play with as much intensity?

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 12:14 PM
:D You just brightened up an otherwise cold and dreary day.

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 12:16 PM
lol i guess so but i mean at this point we cant take players just for the sake of filling a roster... mick has to get guys who are able to play at the BE level

behrlezt
04-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Agreed i have a feeling Mick is going to pull something big though...

DMoney_70
04-21-2009, 12:43 PM
if mick doesnt go after lance stephenson harder than ever and we end up with kavon lytch i might just give up... I would honestly rather just sign no one than take lytch... he has no offensive game, cant run the floor, really does nothing well but rebound and he's 3 inches too short.... i know he's the same height as eric hicks but common do u really think he can play with as much intensity?

What's up The_One? I agree with you. It's like the NFL draft. You can't take a guy just because he's available at a position of need. Get the best player available. In recruiting, a coach can just pocket the scholarship.

At this point, I'm still not seeing UC anywhere in discussions concerning Lance Stephenson's options. I'm not sure why we should continue discussing him unless there's real evidence that he's interested. Do you have links to a story about Stephenson that actually mentions UC? (Not a challenge, I just want to read it if it exists).

Then on Bledsoe, UC was the one option he had that was ready to take him now. Florida and UK are using him for a fallback plan. With that in mind, he hasn't committed to UC which tells me he's willing to be the 2nd option for UK or Florida. If he liked UC, he should have committed already because they actually WANT him. He clearly wants to stay South.

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 12:47 PM
We need a point guard. Why not go after John Wall?

(I keed, I keed....)

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 12:53 PM
according to an article a week or so ago (prolly longer) stephenson and mick had in fact been in contact with each other and communication was definitely there

GoBearcats31
04-21-2009, 12:59 PM
according to an article a week or so ago (prolly longer) stephenson and mick had in fact been in contact with each other and communication was definitely there

Link? Not sure why people reference articles but don't ever provide the link to them. We'll believe this stuff when we can see it!

Go UC

waterhead
04-21-2009, 01:01 PM
Then on Bledsoe, UC was the one option he had that was ready to take him now. Florida and UK are using him for a fallback plan. With that in mind, he hasn't committed to UC which tells me he's willing to be the 2nd option for UK or Florida. If he liked UC, he should have committed already because they actually WANT him. He clearly wants to stay South.


This is a good point...

I am trying to figure out how Bledsoe could play out for UC. Wall can only go to one place which leaves Bledsoe his choice of the remaining. If he likes Florida and KY over UC he will have a shot at one or the other. If UC is 2nd choice there is only one team to wait for which I guess is Florida. If those are your options as a recruit why not just let everyone know you are down to 2? Why say that if someone wants me they need to recruit me harder? The answer is probably that UC isn't that strong of a 2nd if indeed he is 2nd.

How about Vilarino? Did he not change his mind on KY at one point. If KY didn't want him that says something about the talent they think they are going to get. If Vilarino didn't want them it's a different story. If Vilarino wanted UC then we would be crazy not to take that unless...unless Mick knows something that we don't know about Bledsoe or another PG. The answer is probably that UC is not Vilarino's 1st choice.

I hope I am wrong. If...and that's a big IF...UC is not Bledsoe's 2nd choice and/or Vilarino's 1st choice...how do we get either of them? Can anyone shed some light here?

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 01:01 PM
Article? Love to see a link as well.

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:02 PM
i cant provide the link because im not a member plus its inside info anyway ... i received a copied and pasted version of the article from another member here on BCN

and i dont think bledsoe likes UK over UC cuz if he did he wouldnt have cancelled a visit there to come visit here

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 01:05 PM
Forget the whole no-no of getting the pay info you said you don't get....How about just posting the cut and pasted PM then? We can then help you connect the dots. Not attacking....just curious to locate and read the article.

CincyBeerCo
04-21-2009, 01:06 PM
i cant provide the link because im not a member plus its inside info anyway ... i received a copied and pasted version of the article from another member here on BCN

and i dont think bledsoe likes UK over UC cuz if he did he wouldnt have cancelled a visit there to come visit here

Wasn't Calipari out of town at that time? Bledsoe was at the Derby Classic (or whatever it was called) but I'm pretty sure Cal was out recruiting, so Bledsoe came up here instead of visiting UK minus Cal on campus.

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:06 PM
to be honest i deleted that message a while ago because my inbox filled up but thegreatone was the one who sent me the info. so if u want ask him to copy and paste it again i can tell u what headline it was under

and dont u think bledsoe felt like he was slapped in the face, he came to visit the campus and yet the head coach is out recruiting someone at his same position?

Mick's Da Man
04-21-2009, 01:06 PM
1. Bledsoe is down to UK, UF, and Memphis
2. Stephenson is waiting to see what Xavier Henry does. If Henry goes to UK or Memphis, and not Kansas, Stephenson goes to Kansas.
3. Vilarino is momentarily out of the picture pursuing other options.

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:09 PM
ok if you go to BCL the stephenson thing was rather under the headline- "Hoops Recruiting Tidbits - Bledsoe and Riek Update" or "War Room: How many will UC sign?" cant remember which one though

DMoney_70
04-21-2009, 01:09 PM
If UC were his first choice, he'd be here. If he's their 2nd choice, then UC should probably find someone else before he leads them on just long enough to miss on their other options. I think it's more likely that UC is choice #3 which means they're out of luck. He may even think UC is #2 right now but if Wall chooses Florida, Calipari will quickly swoop in and he'll change his mind.

It's time for Mick to send a collective kiss my rear all the way up the line of dominos to John Wall. To have a guy not even connected to you to road block your recruitment is a load of crap.

If Bledsoe liked UC, he'd have signed an LOI. If your hopes ride on being a kid's second choice, move on.

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:10 PM
and honestly i agree with Mick's Da Man i think memphis is in on bledsoe too and i would look out for memphis more than UF or UK

bearcatbret
04-21-2009, 01:13 PM
I am sorry but I missed it. Who is the coach at Memphis?

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:13 PM
but even if wall chooses UK bledsoe still prolly shouldnt be sold on florida... so many guys leave the program there has to be something going on and they have a legit starting PG who will eat up 30 mins a game but if he comes here PT would be split prolly in half with cashmere

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 01:14 PM
to be honest i deleted that message a while ago because my inbox filled up but thegreatone was the one who sent me the info. so if u want ask him to copy and paste it again i can tell u what headline it was under

Now I am really perplexed. Help me make sense of this....

Thegreatone stated in your defense that :the_one_32 doesnt have access to pay sites. I am 100 percent on this. http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=4497&highlight=the_one_32&page=3

Now you are saying he is in fact sending you information from a pay site that you don't have a membership to? I'm confused...:confused:

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:15 PM
and this whole john wall/eric bledsoe saga is really ridiculous... signing day should have been april 15th and been over not drag on for another month... these guys have been recruited since prolly they were sophomores and most have taken there visits... i mean honestly how long does it take to pick a damn school... and yes thegreatone sent me one article of inside info because I really dont have a membership to BCL, i dont have a credit card/debit card let alone ANY money after i was laid off

Bcat
04-21-2009, 01:16 PM
ok if you go to BCL the stephenson thing was rather under the headline- "Hoops Recruiting Tidbits - Bledsoe and Riek Update" or "War Room: How many will UC sign?" cant remember which one though

There very well could have been something on BCL (those guys would know) but I have also been told that Stephenson, his coaches and Mick had been in contact more than once. I did not get this from an article but I did get it from someone directly involved in Cilfton. I have no idea where it stands now and I was only told that there had been some phone conversations. This has been a week, week and a half ago.. I have heard nothing else about it since Mick left town to recruit. He has been gone for a while, a week or so.

DMoney_70
04-21-2009, 01:16 PM
but even if wall chooses UK bledsoe still prolly shouldnt be sold on florida... so many guys leave the program there has to be something going on and they have a legit starting PG who will eat up 30 mins a game but if he comes here PT would be split prolly in half with cashmere

BUT, if that's the case, he'd already be here, right? That's the point.

catsfan32
04-21-2009, 01:17 PM
but even if wall chooses UK bledsoe still prolly shouldnt be sold on florida... so many guys leave the program there has to be something going on and they have a legit starting PG who will eat up 30 mins a game but if he comes here PT would be split prolly in half with cashmere

What i dont get is i'm sure Mick has told Bledsoe this, and for some reason players seem to go into situations that wouldnt benefit them the most but go anyway because of unknown reasons. It amazes me how these coach's can convince quality players (top 100) to sit on the bench for a year+ with little to no playing time! And in UF's case it seems like something shady is going on down there. (I won't touch coach Cal because i think he's as shady as they come)

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:18 PM
this is how i see the dominoes falling:

Xavier Henry: Kansas
John Wall: Kentucky
Eric Bledsoe: UF/UC (toss-up)
Lance Stephenson: i dont even have a guess cuz all the schools he supposedly likes rather have better options at his position or have no schollys

i could see bledsoe going to UF for a year and transferring because I think right now Donovan is lying to recruits because why else would talent leave florida in droves like this

bearcatbret
04-21-2009, 01:19 PM
Bledsoe seems to like attention.. "they should probably recruit me harder". How can Memphis be in the running since Cal left? It seems to me that Eric may have a very high opinion of himself and may actually be detrimental to the team. I agree with the one32, these guys should have already selected a college. I guess that they just like the attention. Maybe, they are holding out for the best salary offer.

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:20 PM
DMoney have you followed Bledsoe's recruitment? This guy is all over the place, he started out as a Alabama lock, then found out they have no schollys so then it was UK. Well he didnt like that he was 2nd choice to John Wall, then it was UC. Finally it was UF but now they are recruiting Wall so will bledsoe go back to liking UC the most? Who knows

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:21 PM
I think april 15th should be SIGNING DAY every year not the beginning of signing period that way we can avoid having to hear about pre-madonnas like John Wall play games and take forever to just choose a school

DMoney_70
04-21-2009, 01:24 PM
DMoney have you followed Bledsoe's recruitment? This guy is all over the place, he started out as a Alabama lock, then found out they have no schollys so then it was UK. Well he didnt like that he was 2nd choice to John Wall, then it was UC. Finally it was UF but now they are recruiting Wall so will bledsoe go back to liking UC the most? Who knows

I understand everything you're saying. My point is simple. If UC is his favorite, he would commit because, unlike his other options, they are not waiting on someone they like better to choose. If he wanted to go to UC and called Mick, it would be done. If he wants to go to Florida or UK, he has to wait for John Wall to choose. I'm just theorizing that the fact he hasn't committed to UC MUST mean they are not his choice at this time.

catsfan32
04-21-2009, 01:25 PM
I think april 15th should be SIGNING DAY every year not the beginning of signing period that way we can avoid having to hear about pre-madonnas like John Wall play games and take forever to just choose a school

I agree, im tired of these kids playing pickem and leaving all these programs on the fence! All these kids want is more attention to help get their names out.

the_one_32
04-21-2009, 01:26 PM
im not saying UC is his favorite i jus said UF is... HOWEVER I think the same thing will happen that happened with UK... bledsoe will feel disrespected because Donovan is going after Wall and made bledsoe his 2nd choice... and when he finally realizes hey Cincinnati wants me more than anyone right now, i truely believe he will be a bearcat

Lobot
04-21-2009, 01:52 PM
I am sorry but I missed it. Who is the coach at Memphis?


Travis Pastner. Cal's top asst.

Globe Trotting Cat Fan
04-21-2009, 01:57 PM
I do hope that the_one_32 ends up being right about Bledsoe and UC, but, we will have to wait and see as expected.

Montrell
04-21-2009, 02:03 PM
I agree with everyone on this thread about signing day. It should be on APRIL 15 and only April 15....extending it another month or whatever just makes it even more of a circus.

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 02:03 PM
Originally Posted by the_one_32
"to be honest i deleted that message a while ago because my inbox filled up but thegreatone was the one who sent me the info. so if u want ask him to copy and paste it again i can tell u what headline it was under"

Now I am really perplexed. Help me make sense of this....

Thegreatone stated in your defense that :
Quote:
"the_one_32 doesnt have access to pay sites. I am 100 percent on this. "

http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showth..._one_32&page=3

Now you are saying he is in fact sending you information from a pay site that you don't have a membership to? I'm confused...

Just to clarify since you didn't respond. You are getting info from BCL? Which is a pay site? From another member of this board? And you've passed that info on?

All of which would make this quote a tad inaccurate?
Originally Posted by the_one_32
1. Don't get my info. from bearcatlair , in fact i discredit most of their info.

2. I dont't get my info. from web searches cuz honestly dont have that much time

3. I don't copy off anyone http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?p=76841#post76841

Once again, just looking to clear the air.

TmacGoCats
04-21-2009, 02:06 PM
Just to clarify since you didn't respond. You are getting info from BCL? Which is a pay site? From another member of this board? And you've passed that info on?

All of which would make this quote a tad inaccurate?
http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?p=76841#post76841

Once again, just looking to clear the air.

give it a rest! So he got one article from BCL...who cares. The rest of his info doesn't come from there.

People are sick of reading someone trying to trap "the_one" in some kind of lie.

Not Guilty
04-21-2009, 02:09 PM
Just to clarify since you didn't respond. You are getting info from BCL? Which is a pay site? From another member of this board? And you've passed that info on?

All of which would make this quote a tad inaccurate?
http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?p=76841#post76841

Once again, just looking to clear the air.

Honestly, how obsessed can you get?

Here is what I am pretty sure happened. the_one reported the Stephenson rumor. He then was banned for is altercation when jeffto attacked him. He heard that BCL was reporting that there had been contact with Stephenson as well. He pmed a couple of posters (including me) looking for information as to what exactly they were reporting. Thegreatone showed him what BCL was reporting.

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 02:11 PM
Da Lord says ya got ta' rise up ah! The truth shall set you free, my brother!

BeastUC
04-21-2009, 02:11 PM
I am sorry but I missed it. Who is the coach at Memphis?

Josh Pastner,supposedly the next up and comer coach.

TmacGoCats
04-21-2009, 02:14 PM
Da Lord says ya got ta' rise up ah! The truth shall set you free, my brother!

I'd rather hear his "supposed" lies, then someone’s obsession with what another person post

Lobot
04-21-2009, 02:18 PM
Just a reminder. Do not cut and paste info from pay sites (BCL) on this board. That material is copyrighted. BCL owns it.

My understanding of BCL's rule are if you are caught doing this you will lose your BCL account , no refund. Either way you cut it. It's not worth it. They kick your butt and I have to delete your post anyway.

dp3113
04-21-2009, 02:23 PM
I understand everything you're saying. My point is simple. If UC is his favorite, he would commit because, unlike his other options, they are not waiting on someone they like better to choose. If he wanted to go to UC and called Mick, it would be done. If he wants to go to Florida or UK, he has to wait for John Wall to choose. I'm just theorizing that the fact he hasn't committed to UC MUST mean they are not his choice at this time.

I agree. No offense, the one, but I think you are using a little bit too much of your own logic here as to how Bledsoe will make his decision. Recruits do not use your and I's logic when deciding on a school. So saying "he should feel slapped in the face by UF" might carry weight in your head, but we do not know if that really does in his head. He likely was just saying the whole "second choice" thing on the kentuckysportsradio interview to incentivize UF and UK to go after him and gain some respect. At this point, it appears UC was just a ploy in the recruitment to get UK and UF's attention. I think he cancelled UK/visited UC just to raise the eyebrows of Cal and Donovan and get their attention, so that they would think that Bledsoe wasn't going to wait around for them (when in fact he really is). How well this act worked, I don't know, but I think its obvious that if he really felt disrespected by being the "second choice" of these schools, he would have already made up his mind and committed to a school that treated him like a "first choice".

catscratchfever
04-21-2009, 02:34 PM
Da Lord says ya got ta' rise up ah! The truth shall set you free, my brother!

What is your obsession with BCL? Are you one of the admins over there?

bearcatbret
04-21-2009, 02:40 PM
I still wonder how Memphis got into the game without a coach or relationship. Bledsoe seems to want the great attention and I just can not believe that Memphis got in the game this late.

Globe Trotting Cat Fan
04-21-2009, 02:48 PM
If Memphis is getting in to things late, I would HOPE that they have no shot.

However, as we saw with Smith, anything can and will happen in the wacky world of college recruiting.

And I also agree, one day of signings, that should be it. If that wouldn't work for whatever reason, at least cut the time frame down substantially.

ralph1950
04-21-2009, 02:52 PM
Agreed i have a feeling Mick is going to pull something big though...

Eric Bledsoe.................................

subflea
04-21-2009, 02:52 PM
Having a single day for signing wouldn't work. As it stands now, these kids aren't even required to sign as it is. Bledsoe could wait till after the end of the signing period to make his decision if he wanted to..

subflea
04-21-2009, 02:54 PM
What is your obsession with BCL? Are you one of the admins over there?

I am an admin at BCL, and I can say with 100% confidence that BearcatCafe is in no way affiliated with BCL.

2Cert
04-21-2009, 02:58 PM
I am an admin at BCL, and I can say with 100% confidence that BearcatCafe is in no way affiliated with BCL.

So just a cyberstalker? Can there be a restraining order? Seriously, I'm tired of reading this crap!

JasonS
04-21-2009, 03:12 PM
Isn't the early signing period one week long (maybe 2 tops??) in November? I think the NCAA should do the same with the spring signing period. Move it back a week to the third week of April and have it last 1 or 2 weeks. By doing this, you give coaches who are in the final 4, 2 or 3 weeks to make their recruiting trips and also get this thing over with so as not to hold these programs hostage for a month and a half. Wouldn't this solve the problem? Of course, the NCAA is not known for doing things logically.

Bearcat Cafe
04-21-2009, 03:26 PM
I am an admin at BCL, and I can say with 100% confidence that BearcatCafe is in no way affiliated with BCL.

And not even a member anymore. How is that for not having any skin in the game?

bcross
04-21-2009, 03:36 PM
Isn't the early signing period one week long (maybe 2 tops??) in November? I think the NCAA should do the same with the spring signing period. Move it back a week to the third week of April and have it last 1 or 2 weeks. By doing this, you give coaches who are in the final 4, 2 or 3 weeks to make their recruiting trips and also get this thing over with so as not to hold these programs hostage for a month and a half. Wouldn't this solve the problem? Of course, the NCAA is not known for doing things logically.

It wouldn't improve anything. Players are not required to sign to get a scholarship. The whole Wall saga could last well into the summer.

Mick's Da Man
04-21-2009, 04:34 PM
Just to clarify since you didn't respond. You are getting info from BCL? Which is a pay site? From another member of this board? And you've passed that info on?

All of which would make this quote a tad inaccurate?
http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?p=76841#post76841

Once again, just looking to clear the air.

More like just looking to be a troublemaker. But what's new.

Anyone trying to protect BCL's info has zero credibility to begin with. That site's info is completely bogus and tainted. They are never right except for when it's official, and at that point, who wouldn't be right?

All BCL people need to be banned from this site, so that truthful information can reign free.

subflea
04-21-2009, 05:06 PM
More like just looking to be a troublemaker.
All BCL people need to be banned from this site, so that truthful information can reign free.

First of all, no one from BCL is stopping "truthful information", or any information, from reigning free. The only thing we would stop is if someone were violating copyright laws by copying and pasting here. No one has doen that, so that is not an issue. If there is information leaking from BCL, that is an issue that would be handled on the BCL side of things, and banning people here would be pointless.

Second, I am the only "BCL person" over here that posts, and honestly, I rarely post. There may be some members of BCL that post over here, but no admins, writers, or publishers are.

levydl
04-21-2009, 05:14 PM
So just a cyberstalker? Can there be a restraining order? Seriously, I'm tired of reading this crap!

Is someone forcing you to read it?

ucbearcatfan
04-21-2009, 06:10 PM
I used to enjoy checking this site for info about UC basketball.....It's getting really old getting on here and only seeing grown men argue about the stupidest things.

Nasty Nati 513
04-21-2009, 10:34 PM
I used to enjoy checking this site for info about UC basketball.....It's getting really old getting on here and only seeing grown men argue about the stupidest things.

x100. Couldn't have said it any better. Shouldn't they be posting arguments unrelated to UC basketball in the General forum?? Just a thought.

What's the latest on Bledsoe anyone?

Lobot
04-21-2009, 10:53 PM
x100. Couldn't have said it any better. Shouldn't they be posting arguments unrelated to UC basketball in the General forum?? Just a thought.

What's the latest on Bledsoe anyone?

We are in a holding pattern on Bledsoe because Bledsoe is in a holding pattern waiting for Wall to commit somewhere. Bledsoe will then go the opposite direction which probably doesn't actually include us. Hope for Villarino. Bledsoe would be a pleasant surprise at this point.

BearcatAlum1
04-21-2009, 11:37 PM
We are in a holding pattern on Bledsoe because Bledsoe is in a holding pattern waiting for Wall to commit somewhere. Bledsoe will then go the opposite direction which probably doesn't actually include us. Hope for Villarino. Bledsoe would be a pleasant surprise at this point.

Well said. If Bledsoe was going to pull the trigger for UC, he "most likely" would have done it already. That's not to say that it isn't "possible," but the likelihood is diminishing as each day passes.

All things considering, I'm hesitant to add another point guard if it isn't Bledsoe or Villarino. It doesn't make much sense to get an "average" talent that will deter future point guard recruits from considering us. If you can get Bledsoe, do it. I'm hesitant to add Villarino because I haven't seen much film (even though he was highly regarded as of 18 months ago), but I trust from others that his game is up to the test.

BearcatAlum1

Bearcat Jeff
04-22-2009, 09:12 AM
This is from a story on www.ucbearcats.com:

"Yet, the Bearcats remain a team that still needs to improve. Deonta Vaughn will return for his senior season, and he’ll be joined by juniors Larry Davis, Rashad Bishop and Darnell Wilks. Center Yancy Gates and Dion Dixon should be even better as they move into the sophomore class, and Wright and Sean Kilpatrick should make big impacts as freshmen."

No mention of Biggie as part of the team throughout the article.

ralph1950
04-22-2009, 09:25 AM
We are in a holding pattern on Bledsoe because Bledsoe is in a holding pattern waiting for Wall to commit somewhere. Bledsoe will then go the opposite direction which probably doesn't actually include us. Hope for Villarino. Bledsoe would be a pleasant surprise at this point.

3 words on Bledsoe: Mama likes Mick. If it were up to his mom, as it sometimes is, he would be signing an LOI with UC today.

Bearcat Jeff
04-22-2009, 09:38 AM
Hopefully mama is the final nail in the coffin.

slimm
04-22-2009, 11:06 AM
3 words on Bledsoe: Mama likes Mick. If it were up to his mom, as it sometimes is, he would be signing an LOI with UC today.

D. Smiths mama loved us too...but you see what that got us

London 'Cat
04-22-2009, 11:20 AM
Smith's mother liked UC. Apparently Smith did not. Bledsoe's mother likes UC. Bledsoe is apparently not so sure. It's the players themselves, not their parents, that need to sold on UC. I do not expect Bledsoe to sign with UC, as I did not expect Smith to sign with UC.

Not Guilty
04-22-2009, 11:26 AM
Smith's mother liked UC. Apparently Smith did not. Bledsoe's mother likes UC. Bledsoe is apparently not so sure. It's the players themselves, not their parents, that need to sold on UC. I do not expect Bledsoe to sign with UC, as I did not expect Smith to sign with UC.

It would be nice if you would stop making things up. Smith said UC was in his top 3 with UConn and ASU. He obviously very much liked UC, he just didn't end up here. There is a huge difference between that an not liking UC.

London 'Cat
04-22-2009, 03:15 PM
It would be nice if you would stop making things up. Smith said UC was in his top 3 with UConn and ASU. He obviously very much liked UC, he just didn't end up here. There is a huge difference between that an not liking UC.

OK, he LIKED UC. Satisfied? What I meant is that it appeared that UC was the FIRST choice of Smith's mother. It was obviously not the FIRST choice of Smith himself. It also appears that UC is the FIRST choice of Bledsoe's mother. It apparently is not the FIRST choice of Bledsoe. I once again emphasize that it's the players themselves, not their parents, that need to be sold on UC. I do not expect Bledsoe to sign with UC, as I did not expect Smith to sign with UC.

the_one_32
04-22-2009, 03:16 PM
I LOVE the optimism