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ralph1950
08-03-2007, 03:03 PM
Tom Hathaway has accepted the position of Athletic Director at Miamisburg High School near Dayton.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-03-2007, 09:43 PM
Tom Hathaway has accepted the position of Athletic Director at Miamisburg High School near Dayton.

Good for him. One of many who got screwed by the new regime at UC.

catswin
08-04-2007, 09:25 AM
Screwed? How did he get screwed?

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-04-2007, 10:06 AM
Screwed? How did he get screwed?

Shuffled off to premature retirement by the new regime = getting screwed.

catswin
08-04-2007, 01:57 PM
Look like the place is cranking out better coverage over the past few months, maybe he was not cutting the mustard.

jkwuc89
08-04-2007, 02:41 PM
Staying with one university for a lengthly period of time does not entitle one to that job as long as he/she wants it. It is quite possible that UC simply wanted to make a change in direction and offering early retirement was a more graceful way to handle this. Personally, I have been less than impressed with UC's dealings with the media over the past 10 to 15 years. Hopefully, whoever is brought in to handle this does a much better job. It is not easy because UC has to compete with several other teams in the market.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-05-2007, 07:58 AM
Look like the place is cranking out better coverage over the past few months, maybe he was not cutting the mustard.

I haven't noticed a change, better or worse coverage, since Hathaway was pasture-ized.

mlb
08-05-2007, 10:32 AM
Personally I think the amount of info put into the newspaper has been 100x better over the last few months. The last few weeks, since BE media day, has seen UC football get more publicity in the local paper than ever. Part of that surely has to do with BK, but obviously the SID seems to be getting info out to the reporters as well.

I feel for Hathaway, as losing a job is never fun, but I'm glad to see he has landed on his feet. Many times when new administrations come in they surround themselves with people they are comfortable with, that includes Mike Thomas. The people who he has surrounded himself with seem to be great, thus far.

jkwuc89
08-05-2007, 11:57 AM
It is actually the exception and not the norm for a new head man to keep the existing support staff in place. New head coaches in just about every sport generally bring in their own assistants. The President of the U.S. brings in his own staff when inaugurated. So, it is not surprising to see Mike Thomas bring in his own support staff.

richard k.
08-05-2007, 03:27 PM
I don't know much about what the new SID is doing, but I think the recent coverage of UC football is more a combination of natural timing, Brian K.'s personality, upgraded expectations for the program, and the fact that Kelly called out the local press on their failure to cover UC football including the BEast media fiasco.

catswin
08-06-2007, 11:26 AM
If you have looked at the web site or talked with any members of the media they would tell you that Hathaway's departure on its own cut down on errors by a factor of 20.

BigDaddyCornHusker
08-06-2007, 01:49 PM
There's no need for anyone to knock Tom and there's no need to put him on a pedestal. We're thankful to Tom for his many contributions to UC and we wish him luck with his new responsibilities.

Paul
UC '91

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-06-2007, 04:58 PM
If you have looked at the web site or talked with any members of the media they would tell you that Hathaway's departure on its own cut down on errors by a factor of 20.

By this time, I might have expected a Mid-Summer prospectus on the 2007-08 Bearcat basketball team. Purdue has that information posted on its Web site, for example. UC normally did that (prospectus) in mid-summer.

I don't see improvement.

mlb
08-06-2007, 06:01 PM
If you were a football fan you would.

Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
08-06-2007, 06:46 PM
It's been almost two years to the day... isn't about time to move on?

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-06-2007, 08:06 PM
It's been almost two years to the day... isn't about time to move on?

Hathaway has been gone 2 years??? I don't think so. He was at UC until mid-2006.

SLMadiCat
08-06-2007, 09:16 PM
Shuffled off to premature retirement by the new regime = getting screwed.

Were you complaining like this when Huggins ran off O'Dell?

Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick
08-06-2007, 10:48 PM
Hathaway has been gone 2 years??? I don't think so. He was at UC until mid-2006.

I'm talking about the whole situation with the administration, beginning with the b-ball coach, and you know it. Not sure people would be complaining about all this athletic department turnover if Huggins wasn't first.

SLMadiCat
08-06-2007, 10:53 PM
I'm talking about the whole situation with the administration, beginning with the b-ball coach, and you know it. Not sure people would be complaining about all this athletic department turnover if Huggins wasn't first.

Nope, you're right, it happens almost every time a new AD comes in. Same with coaches who want their own personnel. Happens at the collegiate and professional level all the time.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-07-2007, 12:32 PM
Were you complaining like this when Huggins ran off O'Dell?

Heavens, no. Gerald O'Dell was a complete *****. Thank goodness for Bob Goin!

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-07-2007, 12:33 PM
I'm talking about the whole situation with the administration, beginning with the b-ball coach, and you know it. Not sure people would be complaining about all this athletic department turnover if Huggins wasn't first.

I'm talking about Hathaway. Longtime UC employee, got screwed by AD.

catswin
08-07-2007, 05:46 PM
You sound like you have an axe to grind - how did the man get screwed?

SLMadiCat
08-07-2007, 07:07 PM
Heavens, no. Gerald O'Dell was a complete *****. Thank goodness for Bob Goin!

Any exactly how was O'Dell a "complete *****"? Do explain.

SLMadiCat
08-07-2007, 07:08 PM
You sound like you have an axe to grind - how did the man get screwed?

He does have an axe to grind. Hathaway did not get screwed. I'm not saying he deserved to get fired, but when an AD comes in they should be able to hire/fire anyone they want under them, since their job depends on it.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-09-2007, 11:32 PM
Any exactly how was O'Dell a "complete *****"? Do explain.

I seem to recall him going into someone else's office looking through private files without permission.

UC booted his worthless butt promptly thereafter.

Bearcat Fan Since 1958
08-09-2007, 11:33 PM
You sound like you have an axe to grind - how did the man get screwed?

Hathaway was a longtime UC employee used by the current AD and adminstration to achieve their purpose, then discarded after being used.

jkwuc89
08-10-2007, 08:24 AM
And how is this different from any other employer in the U.S.? Again, longevity should be no guarantee of future employment. Performance vs. value for that performance should be the only measuring stick used for continued employment.

Lobot
08-11-2007, 12:12 PM
Heavens, no. Gerald O'Dell was a complete *****. Thank goodness for Bob Goin!

Since you brought up Goin.. If I'm correct Tom Hathaway and others were already on the staff when Goin came in and Goin did not clean house. I remember a lot of the people in the athletic dept. making the transition from Rick Taylor(?) to O'Dell to Goin without being put out to pasture by any of them.

I'm not saying Mike Thomas is right or wrong for bringing his own people in but not every athletic director does this based on our own school's history.