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Thegreatone
08-02-2009, 09:54 AM
Simple Thread. Please dont justify your answers. I am interesting in seeing the results.

Who averages more PPG?

Deonta - Two time ALL Big East player. Going back to his natural position and has a PG. Is not going to be counted on to score all the points and can not be the other teams only focus.

Lance - NY All time leading scorer. Can straight up score the ball. Will be in first year in the Big East. Undoubtably a NBA talent.


All I need is a one word anwer. Either Lance Stephenson or Deonta Vaughn.
anbuc88
08-02-2009, 09:58 AM
lance................
the_dude
08-02-2009, 10:24 AM
Simple Thread. Please dont justify your answers. I am interesting in seeing the results.

Who averages more PPG?

Deonta - Two time ALL Big East player. Going back to his natural position and has a PG. Is not going to be counted on to score all the points and can not be the other teams only focus.

Lance - NY All time leading scorer. Can straight up score the ball. Will be in first year in the Big East. Undoubtably a NBA talent.


All I need is a one word anwer. Either Lance Stephenson or Deonta Vaughn.

So assuming that Lance is cleared to play, I see him scoring a lot of points probably close to what Deonta scores, but having a lower shooting percentage. I think the transition to BE bball is going to be a little rough for him at first, he will no longer be a man amongst boys.

I still think Deonta takes the overall PPG, but just by a point or two. But I bet his shooting percentage is going to be great this year, not having to worry too much about running the offense and having defenders not being all over him since they have to worry about our other scorers. Also having a true point guard being able to get him the ball in a good scoring position.

I also think Yancy has a great year and could come close to having as many PPG as Lance.
Thegreatone
08-02-2009, 10:34 AM
Deonta Vaughn
the_dude
08-02-2009, 10:51 AM
Deonta Vaughn

What's your opinion on how many points Yancy will score. Do you think he has a chance of hanging with LS or DV? With some of the other big dogs gone from the BE, and with some more time in the weight room and the addtl experience of being a soph instead of fresh, do you think he has a break out year?
UCbball21
08-02-2009, 12:03 PM
What's your opinion on how many points Yancy will score. Do you think he has a chance of hanging with LS or DV? With some of the other big dogs gone from the BE, and with some more time in the weight room and the addtl experience of being a soph instead of fresh, do you think he has a break out year?

Yancy should average between 12-14 ppg, having a true point guard on the floor along with Vaughn and Lance will mean much more easy opportunities for Gates. I see Vaughn and Lance a tad more maybe about 14-16 points I would guess. Vaughn's shooting percentages are going to skyrocket this year too, I would expect he reverts back to soph season form now that he can play his natural position again.
JerseySean
08-02-2009, 12:15 PM
I say Deonta. Playing his natural position. Not being double-teamed nearly as much. Yancy as a threat down low and Lance as a thread to penetrate from the perimeter means DV gets more open shots.
Pruke
08-02-2009, 01:06 PM
Lance. Deonta will likely be focused on winning his senior year - that may mean dishing it a little more. His PG time proved he's a good passer to boot. Lance will start building his NBA resume as soon as he gets PT.
catscratchfever
08-02-2009, 01:30 PM
So assuming that Lance is cleared to play, I see him scoring a lot of points probably close to what Deonta scores, but having a lower shooting percentage. I think the transition to BE bball is going to be a little rough for him at first, he will no longer be a man amongst boys.

I still think Deonta takes the overall PPG, but just by a point or two. But I bet his shooting percentage is going to be great this year, not having to worry too much about running the offense and having defenders not being all over him since they have to worry about our other scorers. Also having a true point guard being able to get him the ball in a good scoring position.

I also think Yancy has a great year and could come close to having as many PPG as Lance.

Dude what part of "please don't justify your answers" did you miss? Geez
my answer...
Deonta
The HFD fan
08-02-2009, 01:37 PM
Lance. :rolleyes:
Irishbearcat
08-02-2009, 01:39 PM
Lance. Deonta won't have to shoulder the scoring burden like he did the last two years, and he'll take his open shots, but I expect his assists to climb. I give Lance 15/gm, and DV 13.
ralph1950
08-02-2009, 02:58 PM
If will be difficult for Lance to score more than Deonta because Lance is not eligible to play college basketball, the NCAA has not cleared him as of today.
NorrisHopper30
08-02-2009, 03:25 PM
I think we're going to have a case where 3 or 4 people average between 12-15 ppg. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Lance, Deonta and Yancy all averaging 14ppg.
Cats for Life
08-02-2009, 03:27 PM
Ralph you are a character indeed. Is Payne still coming with Chane since they both silent verbaled at the Take 5 last year????
BasketBySteveLogan
08-02-2009, 04:31 PM
DEONTA. SO SMOOTH. Don't leave him open, Pitino!
TheLivingLegend
08-02-2009, 08:07 PM
Deonta... Hes been here before.

Lance has never played BE competition. Regardless of his abilities hes still a rookie.
dp3113
08-02-2009, 08:56 PM
Deonta........................
Kindog202
08-02-2009, 09:19 PM
Lance (if eligible)
BearcatAlum1
08-02-2009, 11:25 PM
Lance = more ppg

Vaughn = higher shooting percentage.

Both score over 15ppg.
ralph1950
08-03-2009, 08:44 AM
Ralph you are a character indeed. Is Payne still coming with Chane since they both silent verbaled at the Take 5 last year????

Can you 100% guarantee that the NCAA will clear Lance to play for UC? If not then why bother with posts about Lance until he is cleared. Harnal Hall, John Reik, etc., etc., been down this road too many times.
Thegreatone
08-03-2009, 08:59 AM
Why talk about Jaquon or Sean. Have either of them been cleared? If you guys are waiting for a official release saying he has been cleared I dont think it is going to happen. He is just like any freshman. We wont hear a big announcement for Sean being passed through. Neither will we for Lance.
Kindog202
08-03-2009, 09:01 AM
Why talk about Jaquon or Sean. Have either of them been cleared? If you guys are waiting for a official release saying he has been cleared I dont think it is going to happen. He is just like any freshman. We wont hear a big announcement for Sean being passed through. Neither will we for Lance.

I was just getting ready to post the same thing. Ralph, stirring up the pot the other way is just as bad as when you were stirring up the pot with Riek, Evans, Payne, etc. Please stop, it's getting annoying, again.
catsfan32
08-03-2009, 09:03 AM
Can you 100% guarantee that the NCAA will clear Lance to play for UC? If not then why bother with posts about Lance until he is cleared. Harnal Hall, John Reik, etc., etc., been down this road too many times.

Ralph has turned from the eternal optimist to an extreme pessimist. He will be cleared, there wont be some big press conference, and you will go back to saying that UC will win the NC.
bearcatbret
08-03-2009, 09:04 AM
"the Ralph" has been right just about zero percent of the time. With that said, we can safely bet that LS will be cleared.
Major ----de Coverley
08-03-2009, 09:18 AM
In this case, with utmost repect to a fellow poster and UC fan, Ralph can also be used as a verb.
Best Body
08-03-2009, 09:51 AM
Against overmatched teams, Vaughn will score more. Against UConn, Louisville, Memphis, etc. Stephenson will be leading scorer (assuming he plays).
red_n_black_attack
08-03-2009, 09:52 AM
Lance will score more points than Deonta per game and with his dunks also have a higher shooting percentage. My concerns for Born Ready are free throw shooting, playing full court press, and getting thru the clearinghouse.
ralph1950
08-03-2009, 10:14 AM
Lance will score more points than Deonta per game and with his dunks also have a higher shooting percentage. My concerns for Born Ready are free throw shooting, playing full court press, and getting thru the clearinghouse.

Lance will lead the 2009-2010 Bearcats in scoring, he may try for Oscar's season record of 35.1 ppg, if he gets cleared by the NCAA to play.
ME80
08-03-2009, 01:07 PM
"the Ralph" has been right just about zero percent of the time. With that said, we can safely bet that LS will be cleared.

You took the words out of my mouth. If Ralph was touting Lance as the next savior I would be worried.
Carin's Dad
08-03-2009, 07:44 PM
Ralph has turned from the eternal optimist to an extreme pessimist. He will be cleared, there wont be some big press conference, and you will go back to saying that UC will win the NC.There's no way the NCAA lets another high profile player go to Europe.
adrock
08-03-2009, 08:02 PM
Lance will lead the 2009-2010 Bearcats in scoring, he may try for Oscar's season record of 35.1 ppg, if he gets cleared by the NCAA to play.

You took the words out of my mouth. If Ralph was touting Lance as the next savior I would be worried.

Oh crap! 123
TheLivingLegend
08-04-2009, 11:23 PM
Lance will lead the 2009-2010 Bearcats in scoring, he may try for Oscar's season record of 35.1 ppg, if he gets cleared by the NCAA to play.

Ralph tell me this statement is not support for lance. This would be devastating, your support is the nail in the coffin. The black cat. The curse of the billy goat. :D;)