J'Mison Morgan

[bearcat18]

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/sep/14/bigtime_recruit_morgan_visits_ku/?mens_basketball

Interesting article about Morgan. Article mentions UC along with Kansas, LSU, UK, UCLA, and Alabama. Also says he will announce his decision on November 2nd. Hopefully Mick can get him to visit UC soon.

[tophat]

Given the tremendous competition for Morgan, and the fact that McClain's here, I have very low expectations.

[jeffto]

It is nice being in the hunt against that kind of competition. We may not get Morgan, but we'll get our share of blue chippers.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

It is nice being in the hunt against that kind of competition. We may not get Morgan, but we'll get our share of blue chippers.

UC has been in the hunt aginst top competition for recruits (until 2006).

[Raj]

I don't think McClain being here would effect his decision, Nothing wrong having 2 big men, Mick would play both of them. And Morgan is more of an offensive threat, so he might play more

[jeffto]

UC has been in the hunt aginst top competition for recruits (until 2006). Give it a rest Tom. He's not coming back.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Give it a rest Tom. He's not coming back.

UC has been in the hunt for top recruits all along from the 1960's until 2006. Nothing new.

[SLMadiCat]

Nothing new.

Nobody said it was a new thing.

[Bearcat Jeff]

Nobody said it was a new thing.

Tom gives very good insight to all of us. What some may take as longingly looking back I take as knowledge. There probably isn't anybody on this board with as much knowledge of Bearcat history and I appreciate that. Let's give the gentleman a break.

[SLMadiCat]

Tom gives very good insight to all of us. What some may take as longingly looking back I take as knowledge. There probably isn't anybody on this board with as much knowledge of Bearcat history and I appreciate that. Let's give the gentleman a break.

How about giving a break to the people who actually look forward to the future of UC basketball?

I'm not sure what insight or knowledge was given by stating that "UC has been in the hunt against top competition for recruits (until 2006)". It is just another attempt to defend a past that was never attacked in the first place.

[jeffto]

History without the bias would be appreciated more. To make this blanket statement simply isn't factual: "UC has been in the hunt for top recruits all along from the 1960's until 2006. Nothing new." Every utterance is nuanced by an apparent need to make a positive statement about a former coach. Most of us have moved on.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

History without the bias would be appreciated more. To make this blanket statement simply isn't factual: "UC has been in the hunt for top recruits all along from the 1960's until 2006. Nothing new." Every utterance is nuanced by an apparent need to make a positive statement about a former coach. Most of us have moved on.

Point is clear that UC has been after topnotch recruits since I've followed the team in 1958. Nothing new since March 2006.

[CroninCrazy]

I look forward to the return of 20 W, 25 W, even 30 W seasons.

I don't want any more 11 W and 19 L seasons. UC is better than that.

I forgot...
Are we talking about Morgan here?

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I forgot...
Are we talking about Morgan here?

Slim chance for UC on Morgan. Not impossible, not likely.

[Bearcat Cafe]

Way to go out on a limb, Al. :D

[Mick's Da Man]

UC's current recruiting is heads above recruiting in the past. Mick will take us farther than our past coaches.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

UC's current recruiting is heads above recruiting in the past. Mick will take us farther than our past coaches.

If that's the case, when can we expect to be the the NCAA Championship game?

[CincyBearcat95]

Sorry, removed duplicate post

[Joe_Pong]

The problem under Huggins was not recruiting. Nor was it the conference we played in. The problem was we played undisciplined/not smart basketball, could not execute an offense, and he got outcoached in the tournament. The result: losing to inferior talent year after year.

[Irishbearcat]

I see us getting better recruits, more 4 year players (which is always desired, for the most part), and more consistency from year to year.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

It didn't suck, they just all ended up in jail.

I don't actually remember all of the 2004 and 2005 recruiting classes going to jail. Got a link?

[NorrisHopper30]

It didn't suck, they just all ended up in jail.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&toinid=435&yr=2004

They did?

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&toinid=435&yr=2004

They did?


You take things wayyyyyyyyy to literally.

[Raj]

Fellas this thread is titled J'Mison Morgan, no one has mentioned him in about 3 days!!!

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Fellas this thread is titled J'Mison Morgan, no one has mentioned him in about 3 days!!!

UC still listed but he's likely headed somewhere else.

[jkwuc89]

All of the posts comparing C-USA to the Big East have been moved to a new thread titled C-USA vs. The Big East.

[waterhead]

From the recruiting page of this website it almost seems as if Mick has completely backed off, or is out of the running on big men. No centers or power forwards except Morgan. I have heard it would be unlikely to get him so...

Should we expect Mick to hold off for 09' on our next big man if we don't get Morgan? I think it's a good idea if we can't get a "top 100 type" guy. I would rather see us hold out for a top 50 guy...6'9" or above.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

From the recruiting page of this website it almost seems as if Mick has completely backed off, or is out of the running on big men. No centers or power forwards except Morgan. I have heard it would be unlikely to get him so...

Should we expect Mick to hold off for 09' on our next big man if we don't get Morgan? I think it's a good idea if we can't get a "top 100 type" guy. I would rather see us hold out for a top 50 guy...6'9" or above.

I have no doubt Mick will land a quality C somehow. Europe? Late bloomer? Prep school?

[waterhead]

I have no doubt Mick will land a quality C somehow. Europe? Late bloomer? Prep school?

In 08'? High quality? I hope you are right!

[Raj]

It doesn't look good for us landing Morgan, I hope Mick has a backup plan!!

We're only going to have McClain as C next year

[IKnowMoreThanYou]

It doesn't look good for us landing Morgan, I hope Mick has a backup plan!!

We're only going to have McClain as C next year

If there is one constant theme to remember when it comes to Mick and recruiting it's that he always has a backup plan. There are two center targets in particular whose names are floating out there that people should know. They aren't secrets, Darius Morrow and Reginald Johnson. If Morgan goes elsewhere either of these guys would be adequate replacements. There also could be a foreign player out there, don't have a name for him though.

[Kindog202]

IKnow,

What is your prediction on Willie Warren? I see he is down to 4 and we are one of his final four. What percent chance would you say he comes here?

[waterhead]

If there is one constant theme to remember when it comes to Mick and recruiting it's that he always has a backup plan. There are two center targets in particular whose names are floating out there that people should know. They aren't secrets, Darius Morrow and Reginald Johnson. If Morgan goes elsewhere either of these guys would be adequate replacements. There also could be a foreign player out there, don't have a name for him though.

Good to hear I know...I was just getting confused because normally it seems like there are a lot more players on the recruiting page of this website. Right now it seems a bit thin for 08' with three scholly's to give except for shooting guards. I guess there are some names missing right now on that page.

I will take your recomendation and wait to see what Mick pulls out of his bag of tricks.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

If there is one constant theme to remember when it comes to Mick and recruiting it's that he always has a backup plan. There are two center targets in particular whose names are floating out there that people should know. They aren't secrets, Darius Morrow and Reginald Johnson. If Morgan goes elsewhere either of these guys would be adequate replacements. There also could be a foreign player out there, don't have a name for him though.

Good recruiters always have 3 or 4 in mind for one spot.

When Mick was UC assistant, Cincy was recruiting several wing players. All were higher rated than Leonard Stokes but UC got him. Not as big a name as the others but plenty of talent. Turned out to be NY Mr Basketball in 1999.

[Bearcat Cafe]

Good recruiters always have 3 or 4 in mind for one spot.

When Mick was UC assistant, Cincy was recruiting several wing players. All were higher rated than Leonard Stokes but UC got him. Not as big a name as the others but plenty of talent. Turned out to be NY Mr Basketball in 1999.

UC signed another wing player in that class. Some guy named DeMarr.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

UC signed another wing player in that class. Some guy named DeMarr.

Dermarr was a guard and a 1 year player. Both UC and he knew that going in.

Stokes was a 4 year guy and played forward in HS.

[Bearcat Cafe]

Can we at least agree they were both wing players?

[IKnowMoreThanYou]

It's always tough to gauge with Willie, especially right now because he isn't allowed to talk to anybody. Since he is at Oak Hill and his mom is still in Texas no in-home visits were conducted, however a handful of schools swung by Oak Hill to talk to Willie.

Cincinnati was one of the schools and since they are in his final four I fully expect him to visit Cincy. Right now I think the only visit he has lined up is Oklahoma for their midnight madness but I imagine his mother will have him take visits to the other 3 schools on his list. Once he gets to campus anything happens. I won't handicap a percentage of him ended up at Cincy but to be in it towards the end with a recruit of his caliber is a testament to the hard work of Mick and Co. If I find out more I'll pass it along.

[Kindog202]

It's always tough to gauge with Willie, especially right now because he isn't allowed to talk to anybody. Since he is at Oak Hill and his mom is still in Texas no in-home visits were conducted, however a handful of schools swung by Oak Hill to talk to Willie.

Cincinnati was one of the schools and since they are in his final four I fully expect him to visit Cincy. Right now I think the only visit he has lined up is Oklahoma for their midnight madness but I imagine his mother will have him take visits to the other 3 schools on his list. Once he gets to campus anything happens. I won't handicap a percentage of him ended up at Cincy but to be in it towards the end with a recruit of his caliber is a testament to the hard work of Mick and Co. If I find out more I'll pass it along.


Thanks IKnow. Hopefully Mick can get him in for a visit for the Louisville or West Virginia football game. He couldn't say no then, right?;)

[IKnowMoreThanYou]

Thanks IKnow. Hopefully Mick can get him in for a visit for the Louisville or West Virginia football game. He couldn't say no then, right?;)

The weekend of the Louisville game I believe is the weekend he is visiting Oklahoma. West Virginia would seem an ideal weekend for him to visit.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Can we at least agree they were both wing players?

Sure. But Stokes' recruitment was unrelated to DJ.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

It's always tough to gauge with Willie, especially right now because he isn't allowed to talk to anybody. Since he is at Oak Hill and his mom is still in Texas no in-home visits were conducted, however a handful of schools swung by Oak Hill to talk to Willie.

Cincinnati was one of the schools and since they are in his final four I fully expect him to visit Cincy. Right now I think the only visit he has lined up is Oklahoma for their midnight madness but I imagine his mother will have him take visits to the other 3 schools on his list. Once he gets to campus anything happens. I won't handicap a percentage of him ended up at Cincy but to be in it towards the end with a recruit of his caliber is a testament to the hard work of Mick and Co. If I find out more I'll pass it along.

If he visits UC, the odds improve. But I doubt he gets that far. I'd hunch he verbals before he takes all 4 visits.

[Mick's Da Man]

I heard recently that UC is still very strong with Morgan.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I heard recently that UC is still very strong with Morgan.

He has 1 official visit left (taken 4 so far).

[GoBearcats31]

On Rivals.com there is a flashing URL (to the premium forum and thus i cant see anything else) that says Morgan will visit UC

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Rumor is...next weekend.

[Thegreatone]

Wow, UC has come back a long way from where they were. Seems like a late push might actually do this thing. It is clear Mick knows all, we know.... what Mick tells us

[Bearcat Cafe]

Man are the bluenecks ticked they didn't get that last official visit from Morgan.

http://www.kentuckyink.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=150&topic=4064.0

[juckerrules]

Rumor is...next weekend.

Too bad it's not this weekend so he could see an electrified campus what with the Loserville game and all

[jeffto]

I read that KY forum and noticed they put a lot of emphasis on shoe deals and attracting players. I haven't seen that discussed on here. What about it Mike?

[jplog]

I see the big jump in interest in his recruiting profile. Does that mean some kind of good news is coming soon?

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I see the big jump in interest in his recruiting profile. Does that mean some kind of good news is coming soon?

Not necessarily. It means he visited campus this weekend.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I read that KY forum and noticed they put a lot of emphasis on shoe deals and attracting players. I haven't seen that discussed on here. What about it Mike?

The shoe companies exert influence on players through their AAU coaches. Those coaches are influenced to send their players to colleges with the same shoe company as the AAU team.

Not widespread but not uncommon either.

[Thegreatone]

Wouldnt it be amazing if Mick landed Morgan. I still think it is going to be tough, but it seems we have a decent chance. If we could land him we might have the most depth in the Big East with size, haha it seems funny saying that. He would not be one of those potential guys like McClain, he would be an immediate impact. He has the body to play right now.

[Thegreatone]

Does anyone else think it is a huge advantage that we were the last visit he made. We are fresh in his mind and I got to believe that will be good for us. I read that he is making his decision Nov, 2 which is his birthday. Hopefully we can land this kid.

[catswin]

Either Alabama or Cincinnati... mark it down.

[Inchickinkick]

Does anyone else think it is a huge advantage that we were the last visit he made. We are fresh in his mind and I got to believe that will be good for us. I read that he is making his decision Nov, 2 which is his birthday. Hopefully we can land this kid.

Can Nov. 2 please come quicker......

[Thegreatone]

Catswin, is that just a gut feeling? I like our chances then, but I thought UCLA was pushing hard. That would be rediculous if we could land him but I am just not sure how confident. No reason but I feel like we have about a 23.8 % chance to land him.

[UCBCATS13]

Ill say 23.9 %

[Thegreatone]

Now your just getting too cocky.

[james jr]

Does anyone else think it is a huge advantage that we were the last visit he made. We are fresh in his mind and I got to believe that will be good for us. I read that he is making his decision Nov, 2 which is his birthday. Hopefully we can land this kid.

Yes, I agree! CATS being last is an advantage. His comments about the campus and his discussions with Mick were also encouraging. He aeems to have a level head and is looking for someone to push him. I like that he has been working to lose weight and increase his conditioning. I believe we have a real good shot at him!

[dp3113]

I've never heard such a wide array of things about our chances with one recruit as I have with Morgan.

[SLMadiCat]

I've never heard such a wide array of things about our chances with one recruit as I have with Morgan.


I have no idea why, but for some reason I really like our chances. The fact that UC got him last and he didn't verbal (at least that anyone knows about) is a big plus. Mick is quite a salesman and I think with Gates, Cash, McClain and Co., there is plenty for Morgan to be excited about. Nov. 2 couldn't come any quicker.

[Thegreatone]

I havent heard anything about what he said. Could someone that has read this give us a shortened version of what he said.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I havent heard anything about what he said. Could someone that has read this give us a shortened version of what he said.

Pretty much the usual stuff. He liked campus. He liked the coach and players.

[columbus_bearcat]

I havent heard anything about what he said. Could someone that has read this give us a shortened version of what he said.

Probably standard stuff as mentioned earlier, but here it is:

10/22/07: "J'Mison Morgan, a 6-10 senior center from Dallas South Oak Cliff High, told Rivals.com he had fun on his official visit to Cincinnati over the weekend. He now has completed his NCAA-allotted five visits: to KU, Cincy, UCLA, LSU and Alabama. "It's a nice campus," Morgan said of Cincy. "Everything is real close together, and I was able to watch the team practice and hang out with the players. Coach (Mick) Cronin was telling me I should be an automatic force if I work hard, and there should be immediate playing time. I want to get minutes my freshman year but I don't have to start." Morgan will announce his college choice on his birthday, Nov. 2." - LJWorld.com

[catswin]

He wants to play - he'll be a Bearcat:)

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

He wants to play - he'll be a Bearcat:)

Maybe so but the current "buzz" favors Alabama. Not sure why. May change before he signs. But Bama may lead right now.

[qsilvr2531]

I'm pretty sure he's likely to play (but not necessarily start) for every team on his list. He'd probably even have a shot at starting at UC, though he'd have to beat out McClain. I don't think getting minutes early is going to be an issue for him no matter where he signs.

[Kindog202]

I'll bump my chances of landing him up to 33%, BCL is reporting he has a final 3 and while I am not a premium subscriber, I would assume we are one of the 3.

I really think we have a good chance of getting Morgan. Next year only McClain is returning as a legit center and he will not play 40 minutes a game. Morgan can be guaranteed at least 15 minutes a game by virtue of being the only other legit center on the roster (I know Gates and even Belton may steal some minutes at center depending on matchups). I also like the fact that Morgan stated something to the effect, about getting quality minutes but not necessarily having to start which describes the situation he would be coming into next year.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

2 of the final 3 are (guessing) Alabama and LSU.

[Kindog202]

If you are correct about Alabama and LSU, I looked and they each have only one listed center on their roster this year, so all 3 teams have minutes available next year at the center position.

[nolte50uc]

I don't get the pessimism. Cronin is a helluva recruiter and coach. So UC b-ball has taken a step back; I certainly don't see us being down for much longer. That's what the current situation is - there's no changing it. I think Cronin is doing an awesome job and with him recruiting, I wouldn't put it past UC getting Morgan to sign here.

[Thegreatone]

Well apparently bearcatlair is reporting Morgan is down to 3. Anyone know who they are?

[Bearcat Cafe]

UC, LSU, and Alabama. UCLA and Kansas got eliminated. My hunch is that LSU is the leader.

[ralph1950]

UC, LSU, and Alabama. UCLA and Kansas got eliminated. My hunch is that LSU is the leader.


My hunch is he will announce his decision to go to the University of Cincinnati next Friday. It should be a great day in River City!

[Thegreatone]

Wow, thats great news that we are still in it. Man maybe we still have a shot with this guy. Here is a question, if you could only choose one Willie Warren or Jmison Morgan who would you guys choose?

[Nerf]

Wow, thats great news that we are still in it. Man maybe we still have a shot with this guy. Here is a question, if you could only choose one Willie Warren or Jmison Morgan who would you guys choose?

Morgan. The BEAST requires big men.

[IKnowMoreThanYou]

Morgan. The BEAST requires big men.

Agreed. Guards are nice, but in 2008 Cincy will have 4 quality guards on the roster with Vaughn, Wright, Davis and Mitchell. You can see why Mick wants to add a 5th in the form of Jones, Brown or Warren. Adam H will graduate leaving only McClain at center with Williams returning from injury, Belton being a soph. and Gates a frosh at PF. Few teams in the Big East will have 2 quality centers and Morgan being a rare true center who is a much different type of player than McClain would be a quality addition. He would see 15-20 minutes a game immediately and would provide the 'Cats with a big bodied low post scoring threat who would complement the returning players well.

[Thegreatone]

Yeah I agree with you guys, I think Mick can say you are going to get immediate playing time and get playing time for as long as you stay. Both conferences are good, The Big East and the sec but I think if you are a big man you see the tradation The Big East has. Do we know who Alabama and LSU have as far as size goes? Would he get immediate playing time at those places? Man I am feeling better and better about this one

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Both have immediate opportunity for Morgan to start and get lots of PT as a frosh.

[Bearcat Cafe]

My hunch is he will announce his decision to go to the University of Cincinnati next Friday. It should be a great day in River City!


I definitely like your hunch more than mine.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

My hunch is he will announce his decision to go to the University of Cincinnati next Friday. It should be a great day in River City!

Technically, Cincy is the Quuen City and Louisville is the River City.

[SLMadiCat]

My hunch is he will announce his decision to go to the University of Cincinnati next Friday. It should be a great day in River City!

I felt better about our chances prior to learning that BoBo spent some time with Shaq and Thomas. That is tough to pass up on. Also illegal, not that that ever matters.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I felt better about our chances prior to learning that BoBo spent some time with Shaq and Thomas. That is tough to pass up on. Also illegal, not that that ever matters.

May be illegal, maybe not. There are tricks around it. More than a few UC recruits have met Oscar Robertson over the years. And legally so.

[catswin]

latest word is mother is pushing him to Bama to be closer to home - kids wants to come to UC.... six days and 16 hours till we know the destination... this recruit would make us a top tier Big East team next year for sure - tough low block trio with Gates and WIlkins, plus a healthy Williams plus Belton.... WOW

[SLMadiCat]

latest word is mother is pushing him to Bama to be closer to home - kids wants to come to UC.... six days and 16 hours till we know the destination... this recruit would make us a top tier Big East team next year for sure - tough low block trio with Gates and WIlkins, plus a healthy Williams plus Belton.... WOW

I think you might Williams, but I agree, the low block would be incredible.

[SLMadiCat]

May be illegal, maybe not. There are tricks around it. More than a few UC recruits have met Oscar Robertson over the years. And legally so.

I can buy running into one NBAer by "accident", but Shaq and Tyrus at the same time, I don't buy that.

I do remember some recruit meeting Oscar and UC made the NCAA aware of it. Can't remember who that was.

[Kindog202]

latest word is mother is pushing him to Bama to be closer to home - kids wants to come to UC.... six days and 16 hours till we know the destination... this recruit would make us a top tier Big East team next year for sure - tough low block trio with Gates and WIlkins, plus a healthy Williams plus Belton.... WOW

Forgot to throw McClain in there. We get Morgan, maybe we could revive the "Where's the beef?" slogan. We'd have 4 guys 250+lbs (Morgan, McClain, Gates and Belton) plus Mike Williams at 230lbs.

[Thegreatone]

Couple days away from Morgan deciding. So what is the feeling? Do you guys feel like it is going to happen or do we not have a real chance.

[Bearcat Cafe]

I think we have a real chance. I also get the feeling we fall just short, though. Hope I'm wrong.

[Thegreatone]

Bearcatlair is saying that Morgan has a leader... anyboy know who they are talking about or is it legitimate

[SLMadiCat]

Bearcatlair is saying that Morgan has a leader... anyboy know who they are talking about or is it legitimate

Not sure, but neither the LSU rivals and Alabama rivals websites mention anything. Maybe it's a good sign.

[Thegreatone]

I was thinking the same thing, does anybody know what they are reporting?

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Not sure, but neither the LSU rivals and Alabama rivals websites mention anything. Maybe it's a good sign.

Actually the Bama site has an article on Morgan today. My guess is that they lead at this point.

[SLMadiCat]

Actually the Bama site has an article on Morgan today. My guess is that they lead at this point.

Yea, I just noticed that. It wasn't on there this morning.....still is not on LSU's site.

[Thegreatone]

Still nobody knows what the lair is saying? I dont know guys I still think it is a longshot but I wouldnt count mick out of it.

[Snowball]

I gotta tell you all that you are missing out on some excellent stuff on BCL. If you are not a member you should join. I've been a member for two years now. I feel it is worth it.

It appears that you must be liking what you are hearing about Morgan on BCL based on how you are gushing about the service. No need to get excited if it was posting bad news.

So you're saying there's a chance!

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Positives would be that he visited us most recently, so UC is fresh in his mind. Also, UC has a history of Texas stars. However, it's hard for me to see Morgan committing to UC though, due to McClain, Gates, and Williams pretty much locking up most of the minutes down low next season.

But, we do look to be the only Big East squad in the mix, so he may want to hone his skills in the toughest conference.

So we just wait til Friday and whatever happens will be the best thing for UC basketball, regardless of where he decides to go.

[Bearcat Cafe]

We are the only Big East school in the mix. Still think Alabama is the school to beat. They have quietly put together a top class already with 3 top 50 players. Just looking at their roster, they really have very little competition for him for minutes in the post next year.

We have to hope Mick has an absolutely incredible relationship with this kid to have a shot. Here is hoping that the Adidas/Nike school issue hactually has some merit.

[Thegreatone]

First I am responding because I want to be the 100th post on this topic. Does anybody find it weird that on the recruiting page they used alabama's rivals page when that some thing was on UC's? Still nobody knows what the lair said about who is his leader.

[ralph1950]

I am hearing that Friday will be a great day to be a Bearcat fan, but no one knows for sure.

[shaunsimpson]

Does anybody find it weird that on the recruiting page they used alabama's rivals page when that some thing was on UC's

A lot of the times if a prospect is mentioned on another site, but has interest to UC then it will be on that page. Also, they have national people who write many of the stories.

For the record I do not think Bobo will make the trip north, but I am as hopefull as anyone.

[SLMadiCat]

First I am responding because I want to be the 100th post on this topic. Does anybody find it weird that on the recruiting page they used alabama's rivals page when that some thing was on UC's? Still nobody knows what the lair said about who is his leader.

who is they? That article is on both Alabama's and UC's rivals sites. Mike just linked the recruiting page to the Alabama site rather than UC's site. I believe it is the exact same story. Correct me if I'm wrong...

Edit: Check these links, exact same story written by same person:
http://alabama.rivals.com/default.asp?type=4
http://cincinnati.rivals.com/

[Thegreatone]

Yeah I saw that too but I guess I was looking too much into it and wondered why he used the alabama site instead of the cincy. I am just looking for some reason to think he is leaning one way or another

[SLMadiCat]

I am hearing that Friday will be a great day to be a Bearcat fan, but no one knows for sure.

Not sure where or who you are hearing this from, but I sure hope you're right. Reputable sources would be nice, but my guess is no one will really know until Friday.

[shaunsimpson]

Reputable sources would be nice, but my guess is no one will really know until Friday.


Hopefully no one knows, because the word on the message boards is that it will not be the Bearcats.

[SLMadiCat]

Hopefully no one knows, because the word on the message boards is that it will not be the Bearcats.

Which message boards are you speaking of? Rivals I'm assuming? I haven't seen anything that says one thing or the other. I also think Morgan is being very tight lipped about it, so those that think they know, probably don't. Also, don't think that all the coaches aren't pulling out all the tricks now and in the next couple days to get him to commit to their school.

As a side note, I still haven't seen anything posted on LSU's site about Morgan. Hopefully that means its between the Tide and the Bearcats.

[SLMadiCat]

On further research, it does appear that the author, Tim Watts, is an Alabama Rivals writer. Not sure what that means in terms of Morgan's recruitment, but I thought I'd throw that out there.

[Bearcat Cafe]

Sports talk radio in that part of the world tends towards slam dunk mail it in its the Tide. Sure hope this one's not over yet.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

who is they? That article is on both Alabama's and UC's rivals sites. Mike just linked the recruiting page to the Alabama site rather than UC's site. I believe it is the exact same story. Correct me if I'm wrong...

Edit: Check these links, exact same story written by same person:
http://alabama.rivals.com/default.asp?type=4
http://cincinnati.rivals.com/

The article was written by the Bama site FWIW.

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Well I just watched a video of J'Mison on Rivals.com and he looks really slow with no hops. Yeah he's huge, but he won't fit in with Mick's pressure, run-n-gun style anyway. Alabama, you can have him.. and start #7 in the nation preseason and then end up unranked, like every single year ever. I'd rather use that scholly on a shooting guard who can stretch the D.

[shaunsimpson]

Well I just watched a video of J'Mison on Rivals.com and he looks really slow with no hops. Yeah he's huge, but he won't fit in with Mick's pressure, run-n-gun style anyway. Alabama, you can have him.. and start #7 in the nation preseason and then end up unranked, like every single year ever. I'd rather use that scholly on a shooting guard who can stretch the D.

Morgan has lost a significant amount of weight since last year, which has improved his rankings (ratings) and is a big reason why he has recieved so much interest at the end of the recruiting season.

[swilsonsp4]

Well I just watched a video of J'Mison on Rivals.com and he looks really slow with no hops. Yeah he's huge, but he won't fit in with Mick's pressure, run-n-gun style anyway. Alabama, you can have him.. and start #7 in the nation preseason and then end up unranked, like every single year ever. I'd rather use that scholly on a shooting guard who can stretch the D.

The Cats lose 5 seniors after this season. Two slots have been filled (Gates & Wright). Getting a commitment from Morgan still leaves two, with one most likely to be taken by a SG. So, that isn't a concern. Morgan's apparently the best available C, so let's hope Mick lands him.

[nachoman91]

Well I just watched a video of J'Mison on Rivals.com and he looks really slow with no hops. Yeah he's huge, but he won't fit in with Mick's pressure, run-n-gun style anyway. Alabama, you can have him.. and start #7 in the nation preseason and then end up unranked, like every single year ever. I'd rather use that scholly on a shooting guard who can stretch the D.

Passing on a Top 25 five star big man is rarely ever a good idea.

[MikeInClifton]

Kansas just got a commitment yesterday of the Morris twins. One is 6-8 and one is 6-10. I would presume this would knock Kansas out of the J'Mison race.

[ralph1950]

Tomorrow should be a great day to be a Bearcat fan.

[Kindog202]

Tomorrow should be a great day to be a Bearcat fan.

I assume he will hold some type of press conference/pep rally at school tomorrow. Does anyone know if it is scheduled and what time tomorrow he will announce?

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Kansas just got a commitment yesterday of the Morris twins. One is 6-8 and one is 6-10. I would presume this would knock Kansas out of the J'Mison race.

Both are fowards. One plays SF, the other PF. Morgan is a C (post player).

I doubt KU is near the top of his list. I think Bama or LSU is on top.

[columbus_bearcat]

I assume he will hold some type of press conference/pep rally at school tomorrow. Does anyone know if it is scheduled and what time tomorrow he will announce?

I believe it is scheduled for noon, Dallas time.

[Kindog202]

I believe it is scheduled for noon, Dallas time.

Thanks, so that is about 1pm/2pm cincy time right? Consensus on the board seems to be that he is Alabama's to lose, hopefully the consensus is wrong.

[columbus_bearcat]

I believe 1pm est. I hope the consensus is wrong too.

[Mick's Da Man]

I wonder what the message boards will be like if he picks Cincy?

[CincyBeerCo]

Fingers are crossed guys...this would be huge! Any idea if Morgan has any personal relationships w/ Cashmere or Yancy from AAU, etc? I know Gates has said he was going to do his best to "recruit" more kids to Cincy, and it did play a role already in landing Wright.

[Thegreatone]

I really like the situation, if we land him that is awesome. We came out of no where to land a 5 star center to give us enough size to compete with anyone. If we dont get him, o well we have pretty good size already and we can survive missing this one. I want him, but we are in a good situation by not needing this.

[SLMadiCat]

I was under the impression that it Morgan cut Kansas from his list? Now it looks like it is still between 5 schools. I liked our chances much better before I read that.

[shaunsimpson]

Morgan will announce in a few minutes here. I am sure that you will be able to google the results after 1:00 or find it on th front page of a rivals or scout site.

[DMoney_70]

How sad are we. Waiting with baited breath for a teenager to hold a press conference. I feel gross.

[CincyBeerCo]

How sad are we. Waiting with baited breath for a teenager to hold a press conference. I feel gross.

Nice, hadnt thought of it like that yet, but...uh...yeah, I'll keep hitting "refresh" until I see what happens :rolleyes: GO CATS!!!

[shaunsimpson]

That god they don't do this for cheerleaders or else we could have to let people know if we move into their neighborhood.

[Inchickinkick]

Is he coming?

[shaunsimpson]

He selected San Fransico Comunity College. Suprise choice.

[CincyBeerCo]

They're doing the same thing as us on the 'Bama board, but no mention of "where" yet.

[DMoney_70]

We're all recruitaphiles

[shaunsimpson]

Decison made - I will let someone else spill the beans on it.

[NorrisHopper30]

Decison made - I will let someone else spill the beans on it.

That means he didn't go to UC, right?
:(

[CincyBeerCo]

Another board says LSU, but thats all I've seen.

[Inchickinkick]

Any word yet?

[shaunsimpson]

http://lsu.rivals.com

[Inchickinkick]

He picked L.S.U ok who cares

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

He picked L.S.U ok who cares

I think we all do.

[shaunsimpson]

There isn't another 5 star 6-10 Center around for 2008 right now. I think that this would have been very important for the basketball team. Florida just won a title in large part becuase of their 3 big men.

[Inchickinkick]

He is not joining us, Who else is Mick recruting?

[Raj]

I don't think there are anymore Centers for 2008, Mick will have to start recruiting now for a 2009 big man

[shaunsimpson]

Assuming we save a scholorship for '09. Unless one is saved then there will be only one scholorship avialable in 09 and that is verbaled by McElroy. It is possible that they will save one and if Mike Williams does not get a 6th year then there would be a spot open.

[Kindog202]

We may have to recruit 2 big men from '09. Biggie will be a junior when the '09 class are freshman if he stays for 3 years, doubt he stays for a 4th year.

[Inchickinkick]

I don't think there are anymore Centers for 2008, Mick will have to start recruiting now for a 2009 big man

Are there any J.C centers for bench dept?

[shaunsimpson]

We may have to recruit 2 big men from '09. Biggie will be a junior when the '09 class are freshman if he stays for 3 years, doubt he stays for a 4th year.

We don't have the room unless someone transfers, gets booted or goes pro.

http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=943&CID=549076

[MikeInClifton]

Are there any J.C centers for bench dept?

In talking to some college coaches a few months ago, I was told that 2008 is a down year for quality centers in both the HS and JC ranks. While the pay sites might still have five (or 10 or whatever) players listed as "5 star centers", that fifth best center is not as good as the previous years 5th best center.

Certain players that in any other year would be looking at mid and mid-to-high major programs were getting high major looks because of the shortage.

Not that Morgan is a lesser player than he is, but the competition was stiffer for him because there were fewer quality crops to pick from in the south 40.

I'm not sure what Cronin and the coaches will do. But there are many other programs in a similar situation.

[Inchickinkick]

Mike Dunigan 6-10--BrettThompson 6-11 from Chicago J.C www.Jucohoops.com
midwest unsigned

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Mike Dunigan 6-10--BrettThompson 6-11 from Chicago J.C www.Jucohoops.com
midwest unsigned

Believe Dunigan is headed to Oregon.

[Raj]

I keep hearing Mick doesn't want to recruit JC players

Dunigan is committed to Oregon
Thompson is committed to St Louis

[columbus_bearcat]

I heard the same thing. I don't think he'll take just anyone to fill up the scholarships. It's looking more and more like they'll be saving a few scholarships for 2009.

[Raj]

A center for 2008 doesn't look good right now but if we can get Willie Warren in the spring I'll be happy!! Next year, even though he doesn't want to play center, Gates might have to tough it out and do it. Belton will have to play some too. McClain should have gained enough experience to be an excellent center next year

[Cats4Ever]

a lot of folks here under appreciate Gates - he is special. McClain is no slouch either.

Morgan was messing with UC, saying he liked the nachos here. We don't need non-serious players.

Cats will be fine - but we need the young freshmen to listen and learn in a hurry.

Hope the coaching staff is up to the task. Or is it 'down' for Mick? (Sorry - a little pun there. Doh! Did it again!)

J/K!!!!

[Cliftnote]

J'Mison Morgan has committed to LSU per a Rivals.com announcement. I did not think we had much of a shot, but now it's confirmed.

[Lobot]

Article

http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/content/topstories/stories/110307dnspohsmorgan.1cfabfc8b.html

[jeffto]

We don't have the room unless someone transfers, gets booted or goes pro.

http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=943&CID=549076

For the right player a scholarship is always available. :)

[The real Bearcat Fan]

I seen on one of the recruiting sites J'Mison Morgan chose LSU. Is this right.

[Bearcat Jeff]

J'Mison Morgan has committed to LSU per a Rivals.com announcement. I did not think we had much of a shot, but now it's confirmed.
We made it to his final five and he took his last official visit here. I'd hardly call that not much of a chance. If you followed this closely it is no surprise he chose LSU. His mother wanted him close to home.

[CincyBeerCo]

Hmmmm....Scout's signing day blog has noted that neither J'mison Morgan nor J'covan Brown are ready to sign yet. (saw another comment that Morgan may be reconsidering, but w/ no indication where....)

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/701527.html

Though doubtful, here's hoping that the "Apostrophe Duo" makes it to Clifton.

[NorrisHopper30]

I wonder how many people would still be complaining about Mick if both committed to UC. That'd be amazing..

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I wonder how many people would still be complaining about Mick if both committed to UC. That'd be amazing..

Mick is a superb recruiter, one of the very best in Div I hoops.

We need to do better than 12-21 on the court. We will (eventually) but W-L matters, too.

[shaunsimpson]

Don't get too excited:

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27826&SPID=2166&ATCLID=1312281&DB_OEM_ID=5200

[Thegreatone]

Dang, Oh well I am still hoping for Brown... we need a shooter and ball handler more than a Big anyway

[GoBearcats31]

Probably off-topic at this point but thought it might interest some and didn't think starting a new thread would do any good...

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncb/news/story?id=5041642

LOS ANGELES -- UCLA dismissed sophomore center J'mison Morgan from the basketball team on Tuesday, making him the second player to leave this season.

Morgan will transfer to another school closer to his Dallas home. He'll have two years of eligibility remaining after sitting out a year.

The 6-foot-10 center played in 40 games over the past two seasons as a reserve with the Bruins. He averaged 2.1 points and 1.1 rebounds, less than the Bruins expected when they recruited him.

Morgan was suspended for one game earlier this month for missing a team meeting, and he didn't play in UCLA's two Pac-10 tournament games. He also missed seven games recovering from a partially torn quadriceps and struggled with conditioning throughout the season.

"I decided it was in the best interest both for our program and for him to leave here," coach Ben Howland said on a conference call. "There's a point in time where you have to move forward."

Morgan's departure leaves UCLA with three scholarships available during the April signing period.

Howland met for the last time with Morgan earlier Tuesday.

"What I tried to impart on him is the No. 1 thing he needs to be focused on is his academics," he said, noting Morgan leaves in good academic standing. "That's still going to be the most important thing in the future."

[red_n_black_attack]

Morgan would have a home at UC if he so chooses. He could instantly take scholly in place of Biggie. After sitting out the transfer he would more than adequately fill the middle.

[milfordcats]

Somebody needs to forward the article about this that basically says Morgan was very lazy and all that. Obviously Gates is not as lazy as Morgan...but still, could show Gates the repercussions of laziness.

This one:
http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1069134

[ME80]

Morgan would have a home at UC if he so chooses. He could instantly take scholly in place of Biggie. After sitting out the transfer he would more than adequately fill the middle.

2.1 points and 1.1 rebounds; how would he be an improvement? Biggie could easily average that if he played.

[MST83]

Is sure hope the guy is good enough not to compete for Biggie's seat at the end of the bench.

Given the tremendous competition for Morgan, and the fact that McClain's here, I have very low expectations.

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

2.1 points and 1.1 rebounds; how would he be an improvement? Biggie could easily average that if he played.

The grass always looks greener........

[slimm]

Given the tremendous competition for Morgan, and the fact that McClain's here, I have very low expectations.

McClain? whos McClain? Maybe Morgan will see he can start right away since this program lacks a big man......( see, no mentionn of Cronin)