Lance Stephenson still not eligible

[jkwuc89]

From a link just posted inside the Links forum:

The communication between our office and the NCAA has been great," Cronin said. "We’re working on it in a timely fashion and it looks like it’ll happen before the season starts and that’s all you can ask."

This sounds like a broken record to me and I apologize for being skeptical but something tells me the NCAA will fumble this somehow.

[TmacGoCats]

This sounds like a broken record to me and I apologize for being skeptical but something tells me the NCAA will fumble this somehow.

fumble might not be the right word.......they know exactly what there doing.

Here's there priority checklist for denying eligibility:

Has this person killed anyone? Pass

Has this person cheated on transcripts? Pass

Is this player planning to attend The University of Cincinnati? Denied

[Forsure21]

Will somebody tell Bill Koch to find out exactly why he ISN'T elgible? I mean what could the reason be? Let's get some quotes. Was Lance sent a letter or told his elgibility is pending review? I mean come on. What in the world is going on here.

[Antonio]

This sounds like a broken record to me and I apologize for being skeptical but something tells me the NCAA will fumble this somehow.

While I agree with the broken record nature of this, why blame the NCAA? There are two constants in the repeated UC/NCAA confrontations, not one. Furthermore, the fact that other schools seem to do a better job getting what they want tells me either:

a) UC is constantly taking risks (Hernol Hall, etc) or asking for things other schools won't (tho for the record I don't consider Lance a risk not worth taking, or don't think other schools wouldn't have taken him)

or

b) UC is the one doing the fumbling.

Because it's happened in football (Mauk, Hazelton) and hoops (too many to count) I tend to wonder if UC's compliance department is, shall we say, Big East caliber, or if they're still playing at the CUSA level.

[Antonio]

Will somebody tell Bill Koch to find out exactly why he ISN'T elgible? I mean what could the reason be? Let's get some quotes. Was Lance sent a letter or told his elgibility is pending review? I mean come on. What in the world is going on here.

And to add to my point about UC being perhaps to blame for a lot of the screw ups, they never seem to give a full, clear, story. Makes me wonder even more if they're truly working these cases correctly.

[behrlezt]

Honestly people there is a HUGE reason why the top programs in the country started to shy away from this kid. The kid is a huge talent and when has a little baggage stopped coaches from taking chances on kids. There must be something more to Lance's situation...

[TmacGoCats]

Honestly people there is a HUGE reason why the top programs in the country started to shy away from this kid. The kid is a huge talent and when has a little baggage stopped coaches from taking chances on kids. There must be something more to Lance's situation...

I dont know, i mean have parker or Kilpatrick even been deemed eligible............i dont think they have but i'm not sure?

[GoCats1994]

While I agree with the broken record nature of this, why blame the NCAA? There are two constants in the repeated UC/NCAA confrontations, not one. Furthermore, the fact that other schools seem to do a better job getting what they want tells me either:

a) UC is constantly taking risks (Hernol Hall, etc) or asking for things other schools won't (tho for the record I don't consider Lance a risk not worth taking, or don't think other schools wouldn't have taken him)

or

b) UC is the one doing the fumbling.

Because it's happened in football (Mauk, Hazelton) and hoops (too many to count) I tend to wonder if UC's compliance department is, shall we say, Big East caliber, or if they're still playing at the CUSA level.

Drey Frey has already been granted a 6th year of eligibility...which makes him a Red shirt Freshman. I guess this rules out "B".

[Scheids21]

This makes me nervous. Mick sounds confident but still.

[gocats13]

I dont know, i mean have parker or Kilpatrick even been deemed eligible............i dont think they have but i'm not sure?

Im pretty sure youre right. From what I have taken from all of this stuff is that none of our incoming freshman have passed it yet/

[ME80]

b) UC is the one doing the fumbling.

Because it's happened in football (Mauk, Hazelton) and hoops (too many to count) I tend to wonder if UC's compliance department is, shall we say, Big East caliber, or if they're still playing at the CUSA level.

C'mon, Mauk and Hazelton, those two are somewhat of a stretch to prove your point

[columbus_bearcat]

Just finished reading the article about Lance and i have to say you guys are just negative. IMO, there was nothing in that article that could have prompted this thread and negativity. Guess that's why I don't spend that much time on this site anymore.

[Forsure21]

The question is why would Lance not be elgible? I have never heard that there is any reason as to why he wouldn't be?

[Bearcat Cafe]

Will somebody tell Bill Koch to find out exactly why he ISN'T elgible? I mean what could the reason be? Let's get some quotes. Was Lance sent a letter or told his elgibility is pending review? I mean come on. What in the world is going on here.

He is not eligable for the same reason Parker isn't. Submitted their stuff late in the process and they have not had their packet cleared by the Clearinghouse yet. When they get throught the packet, they give a thumbs up or thumbs down. You'll hear about it if its a thumbs down.

[Bcat]

Not many, if any freshman in the country are eligible yet. This is not a big deal right now. It will come out when practice starts about who is and is not eligible. 2 weeks. Every team in America finds out unless there was an issue and it has already been looked into and denied/resolved.

[Carin's Dad]

Much ado about nothing. Lance is and will be a Bearcat.

To listen to some people, you'd think we have a hard time fielding a team every year with all the NCAA ineligibility issues.

[MDW79]

I agree, I think he will be eligible and there is nothing to prove that he should not be...BUT why did Mick even mention him, by name nonetheless. He didn't say anything about Kilpatrick or Parker. I'm sure the reporter just asked but I would have expected a different response I guess. I'm not sure what exactly but less detail. He'll be fine unless new info comes out. You can bring up all of the history of UC-NCAA stuff, our admissions dept, etc. There is nothing on the kid, made public as of right now, and with all the exposure LS has had the NCAA can't blatantly rule him ineligible for no reason. I don't care if the NCAA conspiracy theories against UC are somewhat true, this aint Hernol Hall and everything out there leads me to believe he is good as gold. With no concrete evidence of payments, or new info, we can all rest easy. For Christ' sake Sidney from MSU was cleared and his parents are living a million $ home in LA. Am I missing some facts?

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I agree, I think he will be eligible and there is nothing to prove that he should not be...BUT why did Mick even mention him, by name nonetheless. He didn't say anything about Kilpatrick or Parker. I'm sure the reporter just asked but I would have expected a different response I guess. I'm not sure what exactly but less detail. He'll be fine unless new info comes out. You can bring up all of the history of UC-NCAA stuff, our admissions dept, etc. There is nothing on the kid, made public as of right now, and with all the exposure LS has had the NCAA can't blatantly rule him ineligible for no reason. I don't care if the NCAA conspiracy theories against UC are somewhat true, this aint Hernol Hall and everything out there leads me to believe he is good as gold. With no concrete evidence of payments, or new info, we can all rest easy. For Christ' sake Sidney from MSU was cleared and his parents are living a million $ home in LA. Am I missing some facts?

I don't think Renardo Sidney is cleared.

[Bearcat Jeff]

It will be a huge surprise to me if Lance isn't eligible. As some have stated on here there is nothing glaring to suggest he should be ineligible, unless all the facts aren't out. Lance signed late so that plays a part. All we can do is be patient and hope for the best.

[bearcatbret]

Sidney was cleared to enroll in classes. He has not been cleared to play ball. Same for Riek.

[MicksTheGuy]

b) UC is the one doing the fumbling.

Because it's happened in football (Mauk, Hazelton) and hoops (too many to count) I tend to wonder if UC's compliance department is, shall we say, Big East caliber, or if they're still playing at the CUSA level.

Sorry but I worry about b as well. I will really worry if Riek is cleared to play. I still believe we decided against signing the kid because we didn't think he would clear. Maybe I am just mad because thinking about this team with both Riek and Lance makes me wonder what might have been. With all of the scores on this team having that big defensive shot blocker on the back line would have been perfect. Assuming he lives up to the hype.

[bearcatpat]

Would we even have room for Lance if we stayed on Riek?

[Class of '85]

Would we even have room for Lance if we stayed on Riek?

They would have found room somehow. The kid is that good.

Folks, there are lots of B-ball players still not cleared by the NCAA.

As to Bill Koch getting quotes about why Lance is not cleared yet, that would involve work. Do you really think he is going to do that?

Actually, there is no one to get quotes from. The NCAA does not comment on clearinghouse issues until a final determination is made. It is likely that no one at UC knows why, and I doubt that they would divulge it if they did.

Why don't we wait for the first practice to see if Lance suits up to get worried?

[Deaf_Bearcat]

Hopefully, all issues will be ironed out and Lance will be eligible to play for UC. I can't blame on Mick for taking his risk on getting Lance. The riskest one is not taking a risk.

[subflea]

Last I heard none of our guys are through the clearinghouse yet. Parker and Stephenson's stuff got in very late. There is no need to worry about it at this point.

[Cpaw]

Lance Parker and Kilpatrick will all be eligible. As many have said before, when have you heard the clearinghouse putting out a list of eligible players? They don't. When he is practicing with the team in two weeks that will be your confirmation. As the saying goes, no news is good news.

[psax889906]

Lance Parker and Kilpatrick will all be eligible. As many have said before, when have you heard the clearinghouse putting out a list of eligible players? They don't. When he is practicing with the team in two weeks that will be your confirmation. As the saying goes, no news is good news.

I'm banking on no news at all. :)

[HeThun]

Unless proven otherwise, I'm thinking none of us know anything about the subject. Based on that, everything being written is pure speculation. What we do know is that nothing has been released by UC.

As for the cospiracy theories regarding the NCAA and UC, what a joke.

Our AD is active on at least one major NCAA committee; and I would not be surprised to see our soon-to-be President become involved in the NCAA, having played basketball and football himself.

[bearcatbret]

I am not quite sure why this type of thread keeps being started unless we are really slow on news stories and are bored. With football in full swing, this should not even be debated. We will not hear anything if he is cleared.

[psax889906]

I am not quite sure why this type of thread keeps being started unless we are really slow on news stories and are bored. With football in full swing, this should not even be debated. We will not hear anything if he is cleared.

Uh oh... lets not get into that argument again... a few of us suggested not to worry about basketball right now with the way football was going and we got blasted off the face of the Earth for it... :D

[Carin's Dad]

Sorry but I worry about b as well. I will really worry if Riek is cleared to play. I still believe we decided against signing the kid because we didn't think he would clear. Maybe I am just mad because thinking about this team with both Riek and Lance makes me wonder what might have been. With all of the scores on this team having that big defensive shot blocker on the back line would have been perfect. Assuming he lives up to the hype.I'm not sure about Riek. He's not cleared AND (the big AND), he's not physically healthy yet. How long has it been since the injury? 2 years? A very long rehab. He may never play, or he may never play up to the potential he once showed.

[bearcatbret]

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog04&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ada6629a0-7bd0-4605-8869-25a20cb5adabPost%3a3120f1de-73ac-43b2-a6c8-29ad98a77711&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

[BeastUC]

I'm not sure about Riek. He's not cleared AND (the big AND), he's not physically healthy yet. How long has it been since the injury? 2 years? A very long rehab. He may never play, or he may never play up to the potential he once showed.

I thought Riek was cleared and had to sit out the first 9 games.

[Thegreatone]

Riek is cleared. The poster above was wrong.

[MDW79]

I thought Riek was cleared and had to sit out the first 9 games.

That's right, he's good to go. Sorry for my mistake on Sidney earlier but I'm positive I read the same thing about Riek having to sit out some games.

[Carin's Dad]

That's right, he's good to go. Sorry for my mistake on Sidney earlier but I'm positive I read the same thing about Riek having to sit out some games.My bad too. But I don't think Riek's physically ready at all. My premise is that Mick may have stayed away far more because of physical limitations than a worry about Riek's eligibility.

[tophat]

Just finished reading the article about Lance and i have to say you guys are just negative. IMO, there was nothing in that article that could have prompted this thread and negativity. Guess that's why I don't spend that much time on this site anymore.

I have to agree. The title of this thread and some of the posts aren't at all consistent with the article. It's typical for freshmen to get cleared late, especially latecomers. Granted there have been problems in the past, but primarily with foreign players. The fact is this is a positive article. which is far more significant than a thread called "Stephenson still not eligible", a fact which everyone was already well aware of.

[Kindog202]

I didn't want to start another thread - just a simple question. I thought practice began next Friday the 16th but a couple of posts on here indicate 2 weeks meaning the 23rd? Which one is it? Also, does anyone know if they are going to hold a practice/scrimmage open to the public like they have in the past? I know this usually happened on a Saturday, if so, does anyone have the date when it will happen?

[dp3113]

I didn't want to start another thread - just a simple question. I thought practice began next Friday the 16th but a couple of posts on here indicate 2 weeks meaning the 23rd? Which one is it? Also, does anyone know if they are going to hold a practice/scrimmage open to the public like they have in the past? I know this usually happened on a Saturday, if so, does anyone have the date when it will happen?

Practice starts next Friday.

[bearcatjim]

I have to agree. The title of this thread and some of the posts aren't at all consistent with the article. It's typical for freshmen to get cleared late, especially latecomers. Granted there have been problems in the past, but primarily with foreign players. The fact is this is a positive article. which is far more significant than a thread called "Stephenson still not eligible", a fact which everyone was already well aware of.

I completely agree with you. And to think this was started by one of the main moderators on this site. Keith, c'mon man. You should know this stuff actually does harm.

There is no more reason today than there was a couple of months ago, to think that Lance won't be eligible. Most people that I talk to, that are generally correct with their information, say that the coaching staff and university fully expect him to be eligible and anything to the contrary would be a big surprise at this point.

Why start freaking out about this AGAIN for no reason.

[MDW79]

If your read the Q&A w/ Cronin link, he refers to the situation as the "same and status quo." For some reason, I like the sound of that.

[BearcatAlum1]

Lance Parker and Kilpatrick will all be eligible. As many have said before, when have you heard the clearinghouse putting out a list of eligible players? They don't. When he is practicing with the team in two weeks that will be your confirmation. As the saying goes, no news is good news.

Stephenson will be eligible (No, I have not/do not know anyone in the clearinghouse, UC's admin, etc.).

I feel more than confident in my statement.

[TheLivingLegend]

Would we even have room for Lance if we stayed on Riek?


Lance would not be here if Riek was. Ill take my chances with lance.

[UCbball21]

That's not entirely true, Anthony McClain was very close to transferring last season...I'm guessing if Riek stayed on board McClain would have been gone.

[Bearcat_DF]

There are three good reasons to be concerned about Lance's eligibility.

1) practice is a week away and MC is knocking on wood hoping he will be eligible.

2) major programs backed away because of concerns about his legal case AND his amateur status.

3) practice is a week away and MC is knocking on wood hoping he will be eligible.

And UCBBall21 is right - we could have had Riek and Lance - McClain or another player would have been sent packing. MC made a decision that Riek would not be eligible (though it could have been that Riek would not be physically ready to play) and in this case, his decision was wrong.

[UCbball21]

Reik might sound better on paper then McClain but there is a reason Mick dropped him. Whether it was academics, eligibility, or a lingering injury I highly doubt we're missing out on much.

Regarding Lance's eligibility...for what its worth, Twitter feed from Lance's dad, Lance Sr.


Cincinnati,OH,USALance Stephenson hasn't been cleared yet by the NCAA, but insiders aren't worried. Stephenson will be there.

http://twitter.com/ssSTRETCH

[Kindog202]

Also, I think Mick was knocking on wood more in the hopes that the team will be healthy by Nov. 16th, not that Lance will be eligible.

[milfordcats]

Also, I think Mick was knocking on wood more in the hopes that the team will be healthy by Nov. 16th, not that Lance will be eligible.

I think that was the reason he was knocking on wood. I honestly don't think it had to do with Lance.

[westsidecat]

There are three good reasons to be concerned about Lance's eligibility.

1) practice is a week away and MC is knocking on wood hoping he will be eligible.

2) major programs backed away because of concerns about his legal case AND his amateur status.

3) practice is a week away and MC is knocking on wood hoping he will be eligible.

And UCBBall21 is right - we could have had Riek and Lance - McClain or another player would have been sent packing. MC made a decision that Riek would not be eligible (though it could have been that Riek would not be physically ready to play) and in this case, his decision was wrong.

How is his decision wrong when neither of these guys have even step on the court yet?

You're reaching for anything...

[Bearcat_DF]

How is his decision wrong when neither of these guys have even step on the court yet?

You're reaching for anything...

The reason given for backing off of Riek was that he would not gain eligibility. He has gained eligibility the NCAA has ruled he is eligible, but will be penalized 8 games. From my understanding, that would be a case where one's judgment was proven wrong.

Granted, there could other factors that went into backing away from Riek.

[Not Guilty]

The reason given for backing off of Riek was that he would not gain eligibility. He has gained eligibility the NCAA has ruled he is eligible, but will be penalized 8 games. From my understanding, that would be a case where one's judgment was proven wrong.

Granted, there could other factors that went into backing away from Riek.

Mick never gave an official reason for backing off Riek. Everything was speculation.

[TheLivingLegend]

That's not entirely true, Anthony McClain was very close to transferring last season...I'm guessing if Riek stayed on board McClain would have been gone.

To much to happen for things to work out. Ill stick to my statement Reik = no lance. Ill take lance.

[behrlezt]

Wow those ESPN atricles on the Bearcats have me pumped for the season!! I know we should ride football right now but i am a college basketball freak.They might finish in top four of the Beast and Lance will be a huge reason why. Lets go Mick and the Cats!!

[bearcatbret]

Wow those ESPN atricles on the Bearcats have me pumped for the season!! I know we should ride football right now but i am a college basketball freak.They might finish in top four of the Beast and Lance will be a huge reason why. Lets go Mick and the Cats!!

Lance may be a huge reason but I would say having a full team of Big East quality players for the first time will have a huge impact. We will have DV and YG who have proven that they can play, ST who will be improved this year, CW who hopefully is as good as billed, IT who will add height and athleticism. All of the other players have either the experience (and are improving) or the skills (SK, JP).

[dp3113]

Lance may be a huge reason but I would say having a full team of Big East quality players for the first time will have a huge impact. We will have DV and YG who have proven that they can play, ST who will be improved this year, CW who hopefully is as good as billed, IT who will add height and athleticism. All of the other players have either the experience (and are improving) or the skills (SK, JP).

apparently we will no longer be referring to players by their names

[Oldtimer_UC_fan]

apparently we will no longer be referring to players by their names

I think I'm going to need a cheat sheet. I'm old...my memory isn't that good.

[DMoney_70]

I think I'm going to need a cheat sheet. I'm old...my memory isn't that good.

Yeah that post took me 2 or 3 minutes longer to read than it should have. My mind is aging.

[ME80]

Yeah that post took me 2 or 3 minutes longer to read than it should have. My mind is aging.

That's okay, it took him 2 or 3 minutes less to post it so it evens out. :D

[DMoney_70]

That's okay, it took him 2 or 3 minutes less to post it so it evens out. :D

I feel much better. Thanks.

[Irishbearcat]

The NCAA sucks worse than the IRS.

[TheLivingLegend]

Born Ready Cleared.

[catscratchfever]

Born Ready Cleared.

source??????

[UCbball21]

source??????

+1, the ESPN source said that his investigation was being wrapped up this week so that means we will probably hear word sometime next week. While I think Lance will be cleared, I doubt it's a done deal right now.

[Thegreatone]

Well maybe LL is believing it went official because BCL has an update. I know this cheap clown didnt pay for the service so I bet he is guessing. If it is true Koch wil have something soon.

[TheLivingLegend]

source??????

Go tell everyone you know born is cleared. When they ask for a source tell them LivingLegend told you so.

Lets not forget who told everyone lance was at deveroes, and who told everyone lance would be a bearcat.

As for bcl, why pay for information i already know? Although where can i submitt my resume, because I'm always right. ill accept nothing less than 6 figures and a free mountain dew.

[Lobot]

Go tell everyone you know born is cleared. When they ask for a source tell them LivingLegend told you so.

Lets not forget who told everyone lance was at deveroes, and who told everyone lance would be a bearcat.

As for bcl, why pay for information i already know? Although where can i submitt my resume, because I'm always right. ill accept nothing less than 6 figures and a free mountain dew.

Congrats, I have a square, circle, triangle, parallelogram, rhombus, hexagon and a DIET dew for you (since you didn't clarify what kind of dew it was.)

[TheLivingLegend]

Congrats, I have a square, circle, triangle, parallelogram, rhombus, hexagon and a DIET dew for you (since you didn't clarify what kind of dew it was.)

I was down to sign till you said DIET dew. Thats not even worth looking at. :D

[girandola]

My guess is that they are holding up Bearcat madness because they want Lance to be on the court.

[BearcatAlum1]

My guess is that they are holding up Bearcat madness because they want Lance to be on the court.

1. Are we holding a Bearcat Madness event?

2. If so, I think it makes perfect sense that we have our event after other headliners (UK, IU, etc) because we're recruiting many of the same kids and they can't be in two places at one time.

[ralph1950]

Unfortunately, like baloon boy, thelivinglegend has planted a hoax. Lance Stephenson has not been cleared to play by the NCAA at the present time of 5:42pm Sunday, October 18, 2009.

The Ralph

[Thegreatone]

Not true Ralph. He wouldnt be practicing if he had not been cleared. See Darnell Wilks. LivingLegend is correct on this one. Mick confirmed it last night.

There is still a possible problem with his amateur status but that is perceived innocent until something comes up which is why Born Ready is practicing in full with the team.

He will play this year. It seems obvious by Mick's demeanor that he is sure of this. He will play in the scrimmage and if he has still clearing hurdles he would be forced to sit out like Wilks

[ralph1950]

Not true Ralph. He wouldnt be practicing if he had not been cleared. See Darnell Wilks. LivingLegend is correct on this one. Mick confirmed it last night.

There is still a possible problem with his amateur status but that is perceived innocent until something comes up which is why Born Ready is practicing in full with the team.

He will play this year. It seems obvious by Mick's demeanor that he is sure of this. He will play in the scrimmage and if he has still clearing hurdles he would be forced to sit out like Wilks

Being allowed to practice and being cleared to play in games are two different things. Lance has not been cleared by the NCAA to play in games as of this moment. Thelivinglegend is Baloon Boying readers.

[Thegreatone]

The ralph is wrong on this one.

[Thegreatone]

If games were to happen today, he could play.

[dp3113]

If games were to happen today, he could play.

i think Ralph is right. Writers Katz, Parrish, Koch and even Cronin himself- have all said within the last 3-5 days that they are still waiting on clearance for Stephenson to play in games.

[Carin's Dad]

i think Ralph is right. Please limit your use of phrases like this. Why feed the beast?

Are the other players cleared? There's an Australian at St. Louis who has already had to appeal (credits - not amateur status). We know Sidney has not been cleared. Any others that are public?

[Carin's Dad]

Here's some recent news:

Ariz State: "Forward Victor Rudd - 6-foot-7, 207 pounds - is skilled and athletic, but he's still waiting for NCAA clearance." 10/17

Oregon: "true frosh G Roberto Nelson, still sidelined and awaiting the NCAA clearinghouse to regain consciousness." 10/16 (and remember who the coach's brother in law is!

Florida: "Nimrod Tishman, a 6-foot-6 freshman from Tel Aviv, had not been cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse as of early this week." 10/15

Indiana: "freshman center Bawa Muniru had only one class to finish before he would be set to take the court for the IU men’s basketball team.

Five months later, he has yet to be academically cleared to play, and there is no definitive explanation as to when he will receive confirmation from the NCAA clearinghouse." 10/11

[Lobot]

This is so typical. You'd think by now that the NCAA would realize that it is incredibly inefficient.

-A donkey is a horse created by a committee.

[dp3113]

Here's some recent news:

Ariz State: "Forward Victor Rudd - 6-foot-7, 207 pounds - is skilled and athletic, but he's still waiting for NCAA clearance." 10/17

Oregon: "true frosh G Roberto Nelson, still sidelined and awaiting the NCAA clearinghouse to regain consciousness." 10/16 (and remember who the coach's brother in law is!

Florida: "Nimrod Tishman, a 6-foot-6 freshman from Tel Aviv, had not been cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse as of early this week." 10/15

Indiana: "freshman center Bawa Muniru had only one class to finish before he would be set to take the court for the IU men’s basketball team.

Five months later, he has yet to be academically cleared to play, and there is no definitive explanation as to when he will receive confirmation from the NCAA clearinghouse." 10/11

I think you mean Oregon State's basketball coach Craig Robinson- he is Barack's brother-in-law.

Ernie Kent is still the coach at Oregon.

[ralph1950]

If games were to happen today, he could play.

At this time he would not be allowed to play in games. Hernal Hall and Adam H both started practicing with the team in 2006, both were introduced at Midnight Madness that year, before the first game both were ruled ineligible.

[Carin's Dad]

I think you mean Oregon State's basketball coach Craig Robinson- he is Barack's brother-in-law.

Ernie Kent is still the coach at Oregon.My mistake was the school. It should have said Oregon State - not Oregon. Thanks.

[ralph1950]

As of the present time Lance has not been cleared to play in games.

[bearcatbret]

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/cinn/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/200910_Bearcats_57_84.pdf

He is in the media guide as well as the other freshmen.

[Bearcat Cafe]

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/cinn/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/200910_Bearcats_57_84.pdf

He is in the media guide as well as the other freshmen.

Shhhhh.:cool:

[UCbball21]

There's no concern whether or not Lance will play for the Bearcats according to ESPN's source, worst case scenario Lance may have to sit out a couple games. IMO he'll be good to go from game 1 though

[Bearcat_DF]

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/cinn/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/200910_Bearcats_57_84.pdf

He is in the media guide as well as the other freshmen.

This information is interesting, but doesn't signify anything. In 2006-07, ADAM HRYCANIUK, Hernol Hall, and Abdul Herrara were all in the media guide . . .

If you want a smile, check out the casual photos of the players - especially Connor Barwin and Ron Allen.

[Lobot]

The BE is gonna look stupid if he's not eligible. They just named him preseason freshman of the year.

[Bearcat Cafe]

I don't think they are worried about it.

[ralph1950]

Mo Egger on his WLW 7:40am sports report 10/22/2009 stated that Lance, even though chosen Big East Newcomer of the Year at media day, is not yet eligible to play in games. Thelivinglegend was playing a balloon boy hoax on Bearcat Nation with his statement that Lance is eligible. Lance's fate, as does John Wall's, remains in the hands of the NCAA Amatuerism Committee. UC needs a much needed break from the NCAA for Born Ready to ever take the court in a Bearcat Jersey for his one and done year.

[JasonS]

It would be nice if people without any information on the status of Lance Stephenson would stop making comments in which they act like they have inside info. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE NCAA WILL DECIDE AT THIS POINT! Let's leave it at that and wait to comment until a decision is made.

[Bearcat Jeff]

Mo Egger on his WLW 7:40am sports report 10/22/2009 stated that Lance, even though chosen Big East Newcomer of the Year at media day, is not yet eligible to play in games. Thelivinglegend was playing a balloon boy hoax on Bearcat Nation with his statement that Lance is eligible. Lance's fate, as does John Wall's, remains in the hands of the NCAA Amatuerism Committee. UC needs a much needed break from the NCAA for Born Ready to ever take the court in a Bearcat Jersey for his one and done year.

Ralph you seem bitter that the Bearcats signed Lance. Is it because they let Reik go? There just seems to be a "tone" to any post you make in regard to him.

[BigDaddyCornHusker]

Even if he can't play yet. Can he practice in the formal practices?

[Cats for Life]

Lance is cleared to practice and has been practicing. In order for an incoming player to practice he has to be cleared academically which Lance has. Lance cannot participate in games until his amateur status is cleared.

Is he officially cleared? NO
Am I worried even one bit? NO
Will Lance play this season? YES
Will he miss any games? That is what no one knows.
Am I pulling this out of my a$$? NO

Take it anyway you want. Just relax he will be fine.

[ralph1950]

Ralph you seem bitter that the Bearcats signed Lance. Is it because they let Reik go? There just seems to be a "tone" to any post you make in regard to him.

You read me wrong, I am pointing out that Thelivingklegend's statement that "Lance is eligible to play" is not true, so do not get your hopes up yet. He is not eligible to play until he is cleared by the amatuerism committee. They are dealing with Lance, John Wall, the guy from Mississippi State and others. If found to have violated the amatuer rules Lance will have to repay all amounts received and will be penalized a MINIMUM of 10% of the games which is at least 3 and could be more based on how severe the violation is.
Do not count Lance as being a Bearcat until cleared by the amatuerism committee.

[Kindog202]

I know Lance is eligible to practice right now. Is he able to play in the 2 exhibition games or does he need to be fully cleared first in order to play in the exhibition games?

[thegunslinger'94]

I talked to a source in the UC athletic department the other day, and they said he "officially" isn't cleared, but they have NO worries, and he will be playing in the 1st game.

[Kindog202]

I talked to a source in the UC athletic department the other day, and they said he "officially" isn't cleared, but they have NO worries, and he will be playing in the 1st game.

That's great to hear. Get ready for a "the Ralph" post :rolleyes:

[catscratchfever]

That's great to hear. Get ready for a "the Ralph" post :rolleyes:

Let me save him the time...this is a direct copy/paste...

"As of the present time Lance has not been cleared to play in games."

[ME80]

This whole thread reminds me of the Saturday Night Live skit/news report about General Franco

"Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!"

[Carin's Dad]

Florida's Tishman was cleared today. The Clearinghouse is doing something.

[BigDaddyCornHusker]

Florida's Tishman was cleared today. The Clearinghouse is doing something.

Appreciate the news.

It's good to see p...r...o...g...r...e...s....s

[ralph1950]

Dez Bryant has received a one year suspension, John Wall is in hot water, the guy at Miss. St. is in hot water. The NCAA takes this amatuer stuff very seriously, even Tiger Woods got declared ineligible at Stanford until repaying Arnold Palmer $40 for the lunch Arnie bought for him. At the minimum Lance is going to lose 3 games, pray hard it is not a lot more. It ain't over until its over. What if Lance got caught in a lie about the visit to Under Armor? It just cost Dez Bryant a year.

[Carin's Dad]

Dez Bryant has received a one year suspension, John Wall is in hot water, the guy at Miss. St. is in hot water. The NCAA takes this amatuer stuff very seriously, even Tiger Woods got declared ineligible at Stanford until repaying Arnold Palmer $40 for the lunch Arnie bought for him. At the minimum Lance is going to lose 3 games, pray hard it is not a lot more. It ain't over until its over. What if Lance got caught in a lie about the visit to Under Armor? It just cost Dez Bryant a year.You don't know anything, so please stop acting like you have inside connections at the Clearinghouse.

[ralph1950]

You don't know anything, so please stop acting like you have inside connections at the Clearinghouse.

I have no connections at the Clearinghouse, never stated I did. I am expressing MY OPINION. I am saying do not get your hopes up. People counting on Lance could be extremely disappointed. Inferences can certainly be drawn from what happened to Dez Bryant, what is happenning with John Wall, etc. The NCAA does not take amatuer status lightly. Lance "Born Ready" and his visit to Under Armor are well known. The NCAA has a minimum penalty of 10% of a team's games for any violation of the amateur rules. As we just found out from the Dez Bryant case lying to the NCAA is a one year suspension. I am not saying Lance lied to the NCAA during the investigation of "Born Ready" or Under Armor but if he did and got caught it will cost him a year. I hope all goes well for Lance and we get to see the best player at UC since Oscar play in a UC uniform, however, I am not holding my breath waiting for it to happen.

[Thegreatone]

I think Ralph is being rational. I believe Lance will play but I dont think Ralph is saying anything untrue...

[BearcatAlum1]

LS will be eligible and will play in Maui. I don't foresee any problems.

Ralph might have a valid point, be he has cried wolf too many times. Eventually, he'll get eaten (don't know if that make sense, but I like it).

[BigDaddyCornHusker]

I may be rehashing some things, but I really was not aware of the Lance & Under Armor connection. From a quick web search, here's what I gathered...

Lance visited Under Armor while on a recruiting trip to UMAss. UA & UMass have connections. Hence the issue.

Here are a couple of links...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/28/AR2009022802064.html

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/firstcuts/entry/view/17714/the_under_armour-lance_stephenson_link

[Carin's Dad]

I may be rehashing some things, but I really was not aware of the Lance & Under Armor connection. From a quick web search, here's what I gathered...

Lance visited Under Armor while on a recruiting trip to UMAss. UA & UMass have connections. Hence the issue.

Here are a couple of links...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/28/AR2009022802064.html

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/firstcuts/entry/view/17714/the_under_armour-lance_stephenson_linkActually it's Maryland, not UMass. Here's a pertinent quote from the first article: "But extra caution is warranted when the company is wooing the same player as a school to which it donates." The issue was primarily in relationship to UA and Maryland. Since Lance didn't go to MD, it's probably a moot issue (unless the NCAA can prove that UA gave Lance money).

[MDW79]

Stating opinions is fine, stating them as fact is a whole different story. Ex. "Lance WILL miss...", instead of "I think Lance..." or "Lance could, or might..."
I think that Under Armour thing would've maybe have been a problem if he had committed there and they found something. Taking a tour at a facility does not constitute missing an entire year. If it's anything, it will be from the website. Still, I think at worst he may have sit out a few games. I can't see him being denied completely from everything I've read. We'll found out soon enough, then we can talk some hoops without the daily reminders of his status.

[baronzeus]

yeah, im not sure where he's getting that "3 games" number from. sounds made up.

[Bearcat Cafe]

The three games thing is cited by the NCAA in some amateurism cases. The normal penalty cited for issues surrounding cases like John Wall's is 10% of the team's games. Thus, around 3 games.

[bearcatfan80]

I seriously wish this thread would close until something ACTUALLY HAPPENS!

[MDW79]

^^^^^^^^^^^Agreed.