Give it up Cash!

[GoCats247]

We have Lance and Deonte on the floor with 9 seconds left, give the ball up. Cash hasn't proven to be a finisher, it's great having the balls to step and take a shot like that, but it's disappointing our two top guards are on the floor and don't get the ball.

I was upset. Still am.

[GoCats247]

The no call on the oop at the end of regualtion was crap too

[CincyBearcat95]

The no call on the oop at the end of regualtion was crap too

I agree with you first post - Cash should have given that up. He's really still a freshman though so give him time.

Ref's missed several calls for us and Gonzo last night. I guess the were being equally bad for both teams. Rarely do they make calls in the final minute though because they don't want to determine the game.

[bubbachunk]

I didnt see anyone open, he was trying to create because everyone else was standing around but nothing came of it. I cant blame him.

[dp3113]

We have Lance and Deonte on the floor with 9 seconds left, give the ball up. Cash hasn't proven to be a finisher, it's great having the balls to step and take a shot like that, but it's disappointing our two top guards are on the floor and don't get the ball.

I was upset. Still am.

that is just as much on lance and deonta for not coming to the ball and demanding it. he is the best at getting to the hoop (not at finishing) on the team. he got a good look from 6 feet. can't ask for much more given the situation.

[NYCAT]

Why was a "block" not called on Goodson? Cash drove to the hoop with Goodson "urging" him away from the hoop (good D) but when Cash went up to shoot, Goodson ran right below him and both fell to the ground.

[coach]

cronin said in the post game that the plan was to get the ball to wright and get down the floor to the hoop. he said he's the quickest guy and also most likely to draw a foul. i can't argue with that as honestly pitching the ball out isn't much of an option when you can't hit a 3. if that was an option, we would have won by 10 in regulation. either way, i'm a big dv fan, but you can't have your senior all big east guard and leader go to the line in ot and miss 2 throws. i can understand lance on the 1/1, and toyloy 1/2 is a good deal, but dv has to hit those. no 0/2, it put the team back on it's feet, and gave gz momentum. going in we needed deonta or yancey to have a big game, and we didn't get it. that said, our d controlled the pace and made it a winnable game. overall, i'm optimistic, and anxious to see thomas in the rotation as well. gz would not have been able to double gates with him available, and i think we will see that will make a difference. this team has some nice pieces, and i feel we're back in the game.

[BearcatLife]

cronin said in the post game that the plan was to get the ball to wright and get down the floor to the hoop. he said he's the quickest guy and also most likely to draw a foul. i can't argue with that as honestly pitching the ball out isn't much of an option when you can't hit a 3. if that was an option, we would have won by 10 in regulation. either way, i'm a big dv fan, but you can't have your senior all big east guard and leader go to the line in ot and miss 2 throws. i can understand lance on the 1/1, and toyloy 1/2 is a good deal, but dv has to hit those. no 0/2, it put the team back on it's feet, and gave gz momentum. going in we needed deonta or yancey to have a big game, and we didn't get it. that said, our d controlled the pace and made it a winnable game. overall, i'm optimistic, and anxious to see thomas in the rotation as well. gz would not have been able to double gates with him available, and i think we will see that will make a difference. this team has some nice pieces, and i feel we're back in the game.

Very well stated good sir. If we're gonna lose, lose to a great team such as zaga - it will force the cats to understand what they need to do differently next time to finish. I still trust Deonta over most with free throws to win it.

[ou_bearcat]

We have Lance and Deonte on the floor with 9 seconds left, give the ball up. Cash hasn't proven to be a finisher, it's great having the balls to step and take a shot like that, but it's disappointing our two top guards are on the floor and don't get the ball.

I was upset. Still am.


Man i was thinking the exact same thing when it happened... In the end, it's not what cost us the game, but we have a better shot with Lance or DV taking the last shot... But as was stated earlier, DV has to make those free throws...The game shouldn't have gotten away from us, but I'm still pretty happy with the tournament

[Globe Trotting Cat Fan]

I agree with you first post - Cash should have given that up. He's really still a freshman though so give him time.

Ref's missed several calls for us and Gonzo last night. I guess the were being equally bad for both teams. Rarely do they make calls in the final minute though because they don't want to determine the game.

More of an FYI than anything, but during the entire tournament we (UC) were called for far more fouls than all of our opponents, and it was especially so against Gonzaga last night.

Also, there are photos all over the net of the no call on the oop play to end regulation, and even Fran Fraschilla of ESPN thinks we got hosed (my word, not his) on that play.

However, I also agree with others. DV needs to hit freebies no matter what.

We need to not allow a team to come back in the first place.

All in all though, we beat two top 25 teams, lost in OT to a team that will be back in the top 25 this week, and saw the very gradual progression of Lance.

I am fairly (though not entirely) happy with the trip.

Now, lets go kick Illinois collective A$$ in on Senior Day tomorrow!

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Bp4thebest]

I think the 31 points per game came out in cash.. we have alot of guys that had the ball at games end in high school.. Once steve grabbed the rebound and gave it too him I knew it was going up out of his hands, especailly the way that he brought it up slow. I def saw lance callin for it and I was pissed he did not give it up but I am not suprised I knew how much he wanted that win he wanted to do it alone atleast he went confidently but dude had good D!

[NorrisHopper30]

Call made sense to me..give the ball to Lance or Cash, your two fastest players and try to draw a foul going to the basket. Almost worked.

[CincyBearcat95]

Lance was definitely clapping his hands and callimg for the ball. But if the polay was drawn up for Cash to go to the hoop then he did the right thing. The decision was Mick's and Cassh did what the coach wanted. Personally, I would have had DV take the last shot over both Cash and Lance, but I'm not the coach obviously.

Also, yes we were called for more fouls in every game. Get used to it. We play very aggressive ball again. And when we played like this under Huggs we used to send other teams to the line way more than we went - especially teams outside of the Beast. When Beast play starts we will be playing other teams that play aggressively and the fouls will be more even.

[MST83]

Let's get over the disappointment and focus on this team once IT is added to the mix. With IT stepping out and shooting the ball the zags could not have packed it in on Gates.

[waterhead]

I don't blame Cash for taking the shot especially if coach called it. It should have never gotten to that point if they called the foul on Gates. Since they don't like to call fouls in the last seconds...Mick should have never been expecting Cash to get a foul call driving to the bucket. Cash has been getting to the hole but way to fast...too fast to make buckets. Anyone can run to the bucket full speed and miss a shot. he just needs to dial it back or better yet should have pulled up and faded back a bit on his shot since he's usually going all the way to the bucket. He was setting em up the whole tourney for a pull up J.

I was extremely pleased with the tourney however. LOVED how Mick had them hustlin on D. That was my biggest beef against Mick but not anymore. We started to see a lot more free lance on offense later in the game and I hope we don't see a lot more of that until someone proves they can handle it. If anyone that has to be Vaughn right now...he will make the least mistakes and draw the most fouls. If I was Vaughn I would be a little upset that the play Mick kept callin there for a while was to clear it out for Lance.

By they way...Lance was definitely calling for the ball all the way up the court but I didn't see Cash look up at all.

The guys played better than I expected!! I'm excited.

Thomas is going to really make us better if he can give even 10 minutes!!

Strap your boots on! I think we're back.

[BasketBySteveLogan]

Cash made a solid move, had an 8 foot bankshot, just was a tad off on it...

Go back to the second to last possession in regulation-- our ball, 2 point lead, Lance pops out in the corner, chucks a 3--- dont need a 3! Mick will likely harp on this during film sessions.... pumpfake, go to the rim on that, draw a foul at the least--- we go up 4, game over. Instead, chuck a 3, then some STUPID tall lozer throws in a lucky shot in the lane to tie it. Oh well, still a great performance by our boys.

[BearcatJoe]

We have Lance and Deonte on the floor with 9 seconds left, give the ball up. Cash hasn't proven to be a finisher, it's great having the balls to step and take a shot like that, but it's disappointing our two top guards are on the floor and don't get the ball.

I was upset. Still am.

This is all on Cronin. Everyone on that team should have known the ball should have been in DV's hands at the end of the game.

[dp3113]

This is all on Cronin. Everyone on that team should have known the ball should have been in DV's hands at the end of the game.

again, if deonta, being a senior, really wanted the ball- he would have demanded it.

[Not Guilty]

This is all on Cronin. Everyone on that team should have known the ball should have been in DV's hands at the end of the game.

Why? DV is not very good at creating his own shot.

[GoCats247]

again, if deonta, being a senior, really wanted the ball- he would have demanded it.

How? By going and stealing it from him. Lance was definitely calling it for it at half court and was visibly frustrated with Cashmere on a few different occasions for not giving up the ball.

[MDW79]

Why? DV is not very good at creating his own shot.

He created his own shot for 3 years.

[Not Guilty]

He created his own shot for 3 years.

Rarely off the dribble, which is what you are asking him to do at the end of a game. He is best running around off the ball.

[TheLivingLegend]

I dont care about creating a shot. Your telling me DV couldnt have got to the line? I simply dont believe it. Put it on DV or Lance.

Once cash starts finishing, let him do work, but until then the ball goes in your best players hands.

That poor shot goes on mick, cash just did what he was told, Mick will learn from this and we will be fine.

[Not Guilty]

I dont care about creating a shot. Your telling me DV couldnt have got to the line? I simply dont believe it. Put it on DV or Lance.

Once cash starts finishing, let him do work, but until then the ball goes in your best players hands.

That poor shot goes on mick, cash just did what he was told, Mick will learn from this and we will be fine.

We shot 11 free throws all game and 4 in regulation. You really are banking on getting to the line? Doesn't make any sense.

[TheLivingLegend]

We shot 11 free throws all game and 4 in regulation. You really are banking on getting to the line? Doesn't make any sense.

DV is stronger and more experienced. Yes he could have gotten a better shot/ gotten fouled and gone to the line. To not have the ball in your best player doesn't make any sense.

[Not Guilty]

DV is stronger and more experienced. Yes he could have gotten a better shot/ gotten fouled and gone to the line. To not have the ball in your best player doesn't make any sense.

He is also not nearly as quick of the dribble.

You would think he would show these abilities more consistently, but he never does. DV is by far at his best running off the ball. He is not that good off the dribble. Giving the ball to either Cash or Stephenson in that situation made more sense.

[Kindog202]

He is also not nearly as quick of the dribble.

You would think he would show these abilities more consistently, but he never does. DV is by far at his best running off the ball. He is not that good off the dribble. Giving the ball to either Cash or Stephenson in that situation made more sense.

I agree with Not Guilty on this one. Cash and Lance are our 2 best playmakers. Vaughn is better at running off screens to get a shot.

[dp3113]

I dont care about creating a shot. Your telling me DV couldnt have got to the line? I simply dont believe it. Put it on DV or Lance.

Once cash starts finishing, let him do work, but until then the ball goes in your best players hands.

That poor shot goes on mick, cash just did what he was told, Mick will learn from this and we will be fine.

maybe put it on Deonta for not demanding the ball in the huddle? players have to be accountable and leaders at some point in time.

[TheLivingLegend]

Ill agree to disagree on this one. I want the ball in my SENIORS hands who is moving his way up the all time greats list at UC. To put the ball in the hands of an unproven freshman (essentially) who has yet to finish any shots is absurd. If you wanna go to lance, fine, i can live with that cause at least he has shown the ability to finish at times.

[dp3113]

Ill agree to disagree on this one. I want the ball in my SENIORS hands who is moving his way up the all time greats list at UC. To put the ball in the hands of an unproven freshman (essentially) who has yet to finish any shots is absurd. If you wanna go to lance, fine, i can live with that cause at least he has shown the ability to finish at times.

shouldn't deonta demand the ball though?

[TheLivingLegend]

shouldn't deonta demand the ball though?

Apparently it was Micks decision to have cash take the final shot. It goes on mick.

[dp3113]

Apparently it was Micks decision to have cash take the final shot. It goes on mick.

then the senior leader should have stepped up in the huddle and said i want the ball. that happens all the time, and seniors who really want the ball would do it.

[TheLivingLegend]

Whose saying DV didnt? You dont kno what went down in the huddle. Mick came out and said he wanted Cash taking it. Change up that situation all you want, but at the end of the day its Micks decision. He messed up.

[dp3113]

Whose saying DV didnt? You dont kno what went down in the huddle. Mick came out and said he wanted Cash taking it. Change up that situation all you want, but at the end of the day its Micks decision. He messed up.

If a senior, whose leadership Mick has publicly questioned for 2 years now, actually made a leader-like move and demanded the ball in the huddle, he would have given it to him.

[TheLivingLegend]

If a senior, whose leadership Mick has publicly questioned for 2 years now, actually made a leader-like move and demanded the ball in the huddle, he would have given it to him.

O really? Are you secretly Mick Cronin? Possibly a mind reader? I think not.

[hangarninetysix]

I think it's unfair to say that Mick messed up because he wanted Cash to take the shot. He got a fairly good look at the basket, considering the situation we were in with 9 seconds left.

[Bearcat Jeff]

The shot was there and Cash missed. Nothing wrong with the play, he simply did not finish it.

[Scheids21]

From what I saw there really was no play. And I would hardly call that a good look. Cash taking virtually a fade away runner does not bode well at all.

OT: How about we hit a couple ft's down the stretch as well?

[dp3113]

O really? Are you secretly Mick Cronin? Possibly a mind reader? I think not.

no, i'm telling you, given having relationships with several college coaches, how it works.

[TheLivingLegend]

From what I saw there really was no play. And I would hardly call that a good look. Cash taking virtually a fade away runner does not bode well at all.

OT: How about we hit a couple ft's down the stretch as well?

THANK YOU! I dont get why everyone thinks he was set, it was a good shot... blah blah blah.

As to your second point, your dead on. We make free throws we are not in that situation to begin with. Deonta missing 2, unbelievable.

[TheLivingLegend]

no, i'm telling you, given having relationships with several college coaches, how it works.

Would you like a cookie? Congrats on knowing several college coaches, However I kno the manm the myth THE LEGEND. Unreal athlete. I guess that puts me above you.

[Bearcat Jeff]

THANK YOU! I dont get why everyone thinks he was set, it was a good shot... blah blah blah.

As to your second point, your dead on. We make free throws we are not in that situation to begin with. Deonta missing 2, unbelievable.
He took a shot 5 feet from the basket and kissed it off the glass. It was a good look. Contested? Yes. A bad shot? You're crazy. I don't think he should have taken it. I would have given it to Lance. But the shot was not a bad shot. It's as good as you're gonna get in that situation. I agree, make a few fould shots and it's game over. Your senior leader missed two in crunch time. Lance missed two. 4-11 from the line will not win many, if any, close games.

[bearcat_cd]

i think we are all misreading eachother on the post. it obviously wasn't the greatest shot, however we all know cash can get by any player he wants to. Lance has shown he can't just blow by anyone he wants, and dv has always been a pick and roll type shooter. It was a smart choice at the time when we really didn't have much of a chance. In addition, it is not mick's fault that in crunch time these players can't make free throws let alone make a wide open shot. they were obviously tired and worn out by the end of the game. They had no legs left in them. we had plenty of opportunities to win the game, but we can move on and make a splash in the big east, and kick xavier's a$$ :D Im excited to have thomas back and I think he can take us to another level offensively that we've missed.

[levydl]

There were 9.8 seconds left, that's plenty of time to get a good shot. The shot was more than 5 feet from the basket. The lane is 12 feet across, the basket is a foot and a half in diameter, so a shot from the block is about a 5 footer. Cash shot an off balance running bank shot with a guy right on him from about 10 feet. It was not a good shot. I'm glad Mick has faith in Wright, and I think he'll be a good PG for us, but in that game I would have had Lance, Vaughn, Bishop, or even probably Gates take the last shot before Wright.

[dp3113]

Would you like a cookie? Congrats on knowing several college coaches, However I kno the manm the myth THE LEGEND. Unreal athlete. I guess that puts me above you.

if you don't want my answer, don't ask me how i know.

[Bearcat Jeff]

There were 9.8 seconds left, that's plenty of time to get a good shot. The shot was more than 5 feet from the basket. The lane is 12 feet across, the basket is a foot and a half in diameter, so a shot from the block is about a 5 footer. Cash shot an off balance running bank shot with a guy right on him from about 10 feet. It was not a good shot. I'm glad Mick has faith in Wright, and I think he'll be a good PG for us, but in that game I would have had Lance, Vaughn, Bishop, or even probably Gates take the last shot before Wright.

Wow impressive.