Steven Daniels LB, Cincinnati St X 2011 -Boston College Commit- [Archive]

Pruke

08-09-2010, 01:51 PM

While we're reading through the menu, I'd like to have the Jesse Hayes & Sean Duggan, please.

I, too, hope we start to see some of these local guys from through - especially on defense. Any of two of the three mentioned in this thread could mark the start of a devastating UC defense.

DE Jesse Hayes - Archbishop Moeller (Cincinnati, OH); 6’4/230 (considering Cincinnati, Florida State, Nebraska, and Wisconsin)

LB Sean Duggan, St. Xavier (Cincinnati, OH); 6’4/215 (considering Boston College, Cincinnati, Michigan State, and Virginia)

Montrell

08-10-2010, 01:43 PM

I've actually heard recently that UC does not have Daniels all that high anymore on their LB board.

Hayes is definitely someone they want badly and are surprisingly now in the thick of it with after his unofficial visit a few weeks ago.

jnewyouth

08-11-2010, 10:29 AM

I know Steven but haven't talked to him in a while.

We have a few things going for us regarding his choice in school. Steven went to Corryville Catholic (Old St. George) all through elementary and junior high so UC is his neighborhood school. I used to work there and UC athletes would come over and play with the students for community service hours so there is a connection that has been made with the university even years before he played football. Secondly, his older sister just finished her freshman year at UC, so there's also a family connection to the school.

He's a great kid and a helluva player. Hope to see him in Red and Black!

Lobot

08-24-2010, 04:02 PM

According to BCL we are no longer recruiting Daniels or Donovan Clark as of today.

leeey

08-24-2010, 05:06 PM

According to BCL we are no longer recruiting Daniels or Donovan Clark as of today.

A team in need of LBs decides to cut off the recruitment of an LB at a school that we've been trying, and failing, to establish a pipeline into. Yet rumors of the next big commit are for a WR!! in Coach Butch i trust but someone's got to figure out how to force a 3 and out soon...

blackattack

08-24-2010, 06:38 PM

A team in need of LBs decides to cut off the recruitment of an LB at a school that we've been trying, and failing, to establish a pipeline into. Yet rumors of the next big commit are for a WR!! in Coach Butch i trust but someone's got to figure out how to force a 3 and out soon...

I agree with you but.........if there's no interest from the young man you take your scholarship and move on to the next kid that's truly interested in playing here. I have mentioned this before and I will say it again here......no matter how much success we have in football, we will always be the 3rd or 4th option for the blue chippers in the GCL Conference. In the old days we would hold scholarships for these guys hoping they would commit to us.
The high powered academic schools like ND, Stanford, Boston College, Michigan, etc are always going to be their preffered destination. Frankly I'm glad BJ is moving on......I think he has figured out in short order that the upper tier kids in the GCL are only going to pay lip service to him.
Time to move on.

dbernie41

08-25-2010, 01:18 AM

BJ needs to bring Steve Specht on board.

Montrell

08-25-2010, 10:15 AM

I agree with you but.........if there's no interest from the young man you take your scholarship and move on to the next kid that's truly interested in playing here. I have mentioned this before and I will say it again here......no matter how much success we have in football, we will always be the 3rd or 4th option for the blue chippers in the GCL Conference. In the old days we would hold scholarships for these guys hoping they would commit to us.
The high powered academic schools like ND, Stanford, Boston College, Michigan, etc are always going to be their preffered destination. Frankly I'm glad BJ is moving on......I think he has figured out in short order that the upper tier kids in the GCL are only going to pay lip service to him.
Time to move on.

Daniels has/had a lot of interest in UC. They were solidly in his Top 2. I'm not sure why UC stopped recruiting him. Baffling considering the need at that position. Maybe they are in great shape with another 3-4 linebackers higher on their board than Daniels that nobody has any clue about, but I'm very skeptical. They need at least 2 MLB's in this class and Daniels would have fit the bill perfectly.

I have no problem with UC not recruiting Clark. It's been sort of a 3 ring circus type of deal with the people involved in his recruitment on his side. Chris Crawford at Scout and Tim Adams at BCL both said UC has not been recruiting him for a while. I think they made a good choice in backing off. A lot of other schools apparently did the same thing and that is why he's basically picking Michigan State by default today.

Racinejake

08-25-2010, 10:39 AM

This probably deserves a separate thread but I'm hoping we can somehow land Jaiari Dunaway out of Tennessee. He's on the UC rivals front page and that guy looks like a beast although he's somewhat under the radar right now. He does have an offer from UT so I imagine it's going to be difficult to pull him out of there. We've also offered guys like Percy Johnson and Nick Grigsby somewhat recently so hopefully we can land both of those guys. Not sure where we stand with Andrew Smith. It would be huge to land a guy like Ramik Wilson. Obviously Poole is our #1 target right now. We should probably think about a JUCO prospect at this point as well just to have someone who could potentially play right away because of how big our void at LB really is right now.

Montrell

08-25-2010, 11:57 AM

Dunaway is a beast but he has serious grade problems from what I've heard. Plus he is waiting for an Auburn offer. If he gets one from them that is where he will end up.

Also, I think the fact that UC is backing off Daniels could hurt UC with Poole. I really think there is a good chance they end up at the same school. If Daniels goes to UK because UC is no longer recruiting him, it hurts UC big-time with Poole in my opinion since they are the main competition for him too.

Just like the Dominique Brown / Preston Brown effect last year. Preston was going to follow Dominique no matter what.

jnewyouth

10-02-2010, 03:49 PM

Butch Jones was at the X-Elder game talking to Steven Daniels last night. Is he back on the radar for UC? Anybody know what's going on?

colocat

10-02-2010, 04:19 PM

Butch Jones was at the X-Elder game talking to Steven Daniels last night. Is he back on the radar for UC? Anybody know what's going on?

He better be.

dbernie41

10-03-2010, 04:27 PM

He better be.

He would be a HUGE get for the Bearcats.

Binturong05

10-04-2010, 10:13 AM

Racinejake

10-04-2010, 11:08 AM

jnewyouth

10-08-2010, 06:31 PM

Anyone that watched the ND-BC game on Saturday is likely to assume Duggan is a BC commit. Amazing how many kids from Cincinnati were on that team. It was mostly St X kids but BC has a strong pipeline for solid GCL South players.As a St. X and UC grad, I will tell you that X will always be a pipeline for Boston College for two reasons:

1) Boston College and St. X are both Jesuit schools. Even though most Catholics root for Notre Dame, the Jesuits stick together and put BC first. I have to admit that I even have a soft spot for XU because of this (though I'll always be a Bearcat first).

2) Two teachers at X (John Richardson and John Ravena) played football for Boston College. These are two teachers who are very popular with the students and the students respect them greatly.

mopper

10-08-2010, 07:53 PM

Duggan and Hayes have essentially dropped Cincinnati from consideration. Duggan doesn't really bother me because honestly I think he is way overrated. Hayes would've been nice because we desperately need DEs. At this point, landing Poole and Daniels would be enormous for this program. Both are outstanding talents at a position of critical need. DE recruiting is worrisome, though. Not sure what kind of shot we have at Austin Traylor. May need to go the JUCO route there.

They should offer Tank Carradine. He has interest in UC and only has offers from Kansas State and Texas Tech. There is a window of about 6 weeks coming up where he will remain relatively unrecruited. The big name programs that recruit JUCO's normally wait until they miss out on their High School prospects before offering JUCO's. If UC offers sooner rather than latter it improves their odds of landing him IMO

colocat

10-08-2010, 10:21 PM

Good points, jnew. I'm a St. X grad as well. The Jesuit schools - St. Louis, Xavier, and Boston College in particular - definitely factored in heavily when it came time to consider college. I almost chose Loyola, Chicago, primarily for that reason.

John Ravenna was in my brother's class, and a great guy by all accounts. I can see him holding sway with student-athletes when it comes time to decide their next step.

As a St. X and UC grad, I will tell you that X will always be a pipeline for Boston College for two reasons:

1) Boston College and St. X are both Jesuit schools. Even though most Catholics root for Notre Dame, the Jesuits stick together and put BC first. I have to admit that I even have a soft spot for XU because of this (though I'll always be a Bearcat first).

2) Two teachers at X (John Richardson and John Ravena) played football for Boston College. These are two teachers who are very popular with the students and the students respect them greatly.

Pruke

10-08-2010, 11:28 PM

Good points, jnew. I'm a St. X grad as well. The Jesuit schools - St. Louis, Xavier, and Boston College in particular - definitely factored in heavily when it came time to consider college. I almost chose Loyola, Chicago, primarily for that reason.

John Ravenna was in my brother's class, and a great guy by all accounts. I can see him holding sway with student-athletes when it comes time to decide their next step.

Good news, I'm an St. X grad too, but I chose Cincinnati for a variety of reasons, including a strong engineering program.

I hope others from the school recognize UC for attributes beyond football and see it as an opportunity to pursue academic horizons, play big conference football and do something BC and ND can't do - play 30 minutes from their families.

blackattack

10-09-2010, 09:06 AM

Good news, I'm an St. X grad too, but I chose Cincinnati for a variety of reasons, including a strong engineering program.

I hope others from the school recognize UC for attributes beyond football and see it as an opportunity to pursue academic horizons, play big conference football and do something BC and ND can't do - play 30 minutes from their families.

Don't hold your breath waiting on upper tier GCL kids to sign with UC. We may occassionally get kids like Sean McClellan (Moeller) or Danny Milligan (St X). Beyond that it's going to be difficult to attract the top GCL kids until/unless the university dramatically improves it's academic stature. Parents that pay for tuition at a place like St X are going to push their kids to attend places like ND, BC, Stanford, Michigan, etc, etc.......... I don't like it but it's a fact.

bearcat29

10-16-2010, 10:36 PM

Didn't UofL have 3 kids from St X? I don't think Louisville is ivy league material.

richard k.

10-17-2010, 11:23 AM

Didn't UofL have 3 kids from St X? I don't think Louisville is ivy league material.

Not only are you correct but UC's academics are significantly better - We have friends who taught at UofL, and they looked at UC as a "real" school, calling UofL a glorified junior college.

DCrack

10-17-2010, 12:00 PM

Not only are you correct but UC's academics are significantly better - We have friends who taught at UofL, and they looked at UC as a "real" school, calling UofL a glorified junior college.
Kids from Cincinnati want to see what else is out there. Cincinnati is not a large city and the program has not grown enough to attract the grade A talent...yet. It is only at the very tradition rich schools do the local talent stay home.

dbernie41

10-17-2010, 12:46 PM

I hear he is leaning towards Louisville from a St. X senior I know.

Thegreatone

10-17-2010, 08:35 PM

I hope not. If he does go to Louisville he better get use to beatdowns.

Binturong05

10-18-2010, 12:09 AM

I hear he is leaning towards Louisville from a St. X senior I know.

I can understand his motivations. Charlie Strong is a first year head coach at Louisville which means he'll probably stick around at least 3 years (a la Mark Dantonio). Strong was the D coordinator for the best Florida teams of the past decade so I don't blame a high school kid for getting all starry eyed when Charlie starts giving him the sales pitch.

Sadly, UC isn't exactly known for defense outside of that 2007 defensive squad that had a ridiculous positive turnover margin.

catscratchfever

10-19-2010, 03:54 PM

Don't hold your breath waiting on upper tier GCL kids to sign with UC. We may occassionally get kids like Sean McClellan (Moeller) or Danny Milligan (St X). Beyond that it's going to be difficult to attract the top GCL kids until/unless the university dramatically improves it's academic stature. Parents that pay for tuition at a place like St X are going to push their kids to attend places like ND, BC, Stanford, Michigan, etc, etc.......... I don't like it but it's a fact.

this really drives me nuts...when you look at the private schools on the east coast in comparison to the catholic schools here locally it is no comparison! too many people around here think that since they paid $10-15k a year for high school at one of the catholic schools that they have some superior education compared to anyone else.

Ding Chavez

10-19-2010, 05:19 PM

this really drives me nuts...when you look at the private schools on the east coast in comparison to the catholic schools here locally it is no comparison! too many people around here think that since they paid $10-15k a year for high school at one of the catholic schools that they have some superior education compared to anyone else.

I don't even know what this comment means.

jnewyouth

10-19-2010, 06:21 PM

This stereotype that GCL kids don't go to UC or think they're too good for UC needs to stop!

UC is the #1 school that St. X Seniors choose nearly every year. For some reason though, this does not apply to X athletes who rarely chose UC or even OSU. This proves that it is not academics that keeps X athletes from coming to UC, don't know what it is, but not academics.

Here are the top ten colleges that the St. X Class of 2010 went to, in order:

77 Seniors to University of Cincinnati
49 Seniors to The Ohio State University
47 Seniors to Miami University
26 Seniors to Xavier University
18 Seniors to University of Dayton
12 Seniors to St. Louis University
12 Seniors to University of Notre Dame
10 Seniors to Indiana University
8 Seniors to Loyola University of Chicago
8 Seniors to Ohio University

http://www.stxavier.org/uploaded/academics/St_X_Senior_Profile_Class_of_2010.pdf

jnewyouth

10-19-2010, 06:29 PM

Click the link and notice that not one X grad went to Louisville last year!

colocat

10-19-2010, 10:47 PM

Click the link and notice that not one X grad went to Louisville last year!

Very interesting. My class (quite a few years ago) only had about 25 go to UC and 10 to Ohio State. Nearly 70 went to Miami.

Racinejake

10-20-2010, 10:29 AM

Click the link and notice that not one X grad went to Louisville last year!

I'm not really surprised. Louisville is not a very good school and to pay out of state tuition to go there just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. My company (accounting firm) recruits at most of the major universities in the region like UC, OSU, Miami, UK, Purdue, and Indiana but they will not recruit at UL.

jnewyouth

10-20-2010, 11:07 AM

Very interesting. My class (quite a few years ago) only had about 25 go to UC and 10 to Ohio State. Nearly 70 went to Miami.I graduated in '97 and UC was the #1 school that my class went to with OSU coming in at #2. These two have been fighting for the #1 spot ever since, with UC winning more often than not. They have clearly become the top choice for X grads with Miami and XU making up the second tier.

My question though... Why is this trend not reflected with athletes?!?

GoCats1994

10-20-2010, 11:39 AM

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but here is a note from Butch's press conference yesterday. When asked what he can do to address this year's thin LB corps, his response was: "Develop your younger players and go recruit. There's a premium need of linebackers in our football program right now. We address that through recruiting..."

Obviously, there is always a premium on recruiting in any college program. A position of depth/strength can turn thin/weak within one year if recruiting is not successful. But this response felt a little different to me for some reason. Feels a little like he is trying to send a message to a specific recruit or two.

Translation = "Playing time is available".

Maybe directed towards Daniels? Perhaps Antonio Poole? Sean Duggan? Someone else?

Who knows. Again, maybe I'm reading too much into this.

bearcatbret

10-20-2010, 03:17 PM

^ I thought the same thing.

Thegreatone

10-21-2010, 02:23 PM

Anyone know when he is going to announce? Any time soon? We need to get a couple GCL kids. Moeller and X kids seem to be the toughest.

bobestes

10-22-2010, 09:31 PM

UC has a bad rep in town. Especially with the GCL schools. People widely assume that no coach will stick around for more than three years.

BK had almost no credibility with those guys.

GoCats1994

10-26-2010, 08:46 AM

UC has a bad rep in town. Especially with the GCL schools. People widely assume that no coach will stick around for more than three years.

BK had almost no credibility with those guys.

Not sure how anyone can speculate the exact reason why kids pick one school over another...but the one constant is that there are very few programs in the country where you can assume a coach will be there more than three years. This argument doesn't make a lot of sense.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument...

The Bearcats have 103 players on the roster
- 31 of the players are from the Greater Cincinnati area
- 10 of the players are from the GCL (7 from the "big 4", and 3 from the smaller schools)

A third of the roster is local...10% from the GCL.

No school is going to win 100% of the kids it targets...not even the Florida's and Texas' of the world get everyone.

Thegreatone

10-26-2010, 09:48 AM

Not sure how anyone can speculate the exact reason why kids pick one school over another...but the one constant is that there are very few programs in the country where you can assume a coach will be there more than three years. This argument doesn't make a lot of sense.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument...

The Bearcats have 103 players on the roster
- 31 of the players are from the Greater Cincinnati area
- 10 of the players are from the GCL (7 from the "big 4", and 3 from the smaller schools)

A third of the roster is local...10% from the GCL.

No school is going to win 100% of the kids it targets...not even the Florida's and Texas' of the world get everyone.

Who the **** is the 4th member of the Big 4??

catscratchfever

10-26-2010, 09:49 AM

UC has a bad rep in town. Especially with the GCL schools. People widely assume that no coach will stick around for more than three years.

BK had almost no credibility with those guys.

why did james and massa choose ND then? ND has a history of coaches not sticking around, and as to your second point, BK just happens to be there coach there now..

catscratchfever

10-26-2010, 09:55 AM

I don't even know what this comment means.

it means that comments like blackattack made that say UC needs to improve it's academic standing before the GCL kids will take it seriously are ridiculous. People around here think that paying for a GCL school makes you some big shot academic. On the east coast, a legit private school is $30-$40k a year for high school. Around here when folks pay $10-15k a year they think it makes them some elite academic talent and that their birthright is to go to an Ivy league school. It's just not the case. The difference in the education at the GCL schools and the public schools locally (not CPS) is miniscule. Look at the numbers before you make that assumption.

Binturong05

10-26-2010, 10:25 AM

Who the **** is the 4th member of the Big 4??

Ha ha, this year GoCats must be talking about LaSalle. While typically the doormat of the GCL South they are having a Cinderella-like season this year.

On a more serious note, perhaps by "big 4" GoCats is referring to the division 1 GCL teams when using such terminology.

blackattack

10-26-2010, 11:34 AM

it means that comments like blackattack made that say UC needs to improve it's academic standing before the GCL kids will take it seriously are ridiculous. People around here think that paying for a GCL school makes you some big shot academic. On the east coast, a legit private school is $30-$40k a year for high school. Around here when folks pay $10-15k a year they think it makes them some elite academic talent and that their birthright is to go to an Ivy league school. It's just not the case. The difference in the education at the GCL schools and the public schools locally (not CPS) is miniscule. Look at the numbers before you make that assumption.

Depends on which public schools you are comparing the GCL to. If it's Madiera, Sycamore, Wyoming and Indian Hill then I agree with you....not much difference between them and a GCL school academically. If it's schools like Middletown, Hamilton, Colerain, Mount Healthy........then there's no comparison to a GCL school academically.....the percentage of kids at these schools that go on to college is not even close to a GCL school. Check the numbers if you don't believe me.

catscratchfever

10-26-2010, 12:31 PM

Depends on which public schools you are comparing the GCL to. If it's Madiera, Sycamore, Wyoming and Indian Hill then I agree with you....not much difference between them and a GCL school academically. If it's schools like Middletown, Hamilton, Colerain, Mount Healthy........then there's no comparison to a GCL school academically.....the percentage of kids at these schools that go on to college is not even close to a GCL school. Check the numbers if you don't believe me.

i'm talking Lakota, Mason, Kings, Oak Hills, etc...
percentage of kids going to college is not a good indicator as that is dependent upon many other factors. I'm talking Ohio standardized testing results. With these standards, there is not a lot of difference between public and private here in the state.

colocat

10-26-2010, 01:42 PM

How many times does this need to be discussed? There is NO anti-UC bias at GCL schools. St. X had 73 students from its 2010 graduating class attend UC, far more than any other school. If there was a bias against UC, it's gone.

it means that comments like blackattack made that say UC needs to improve it's academic standing before the GCL kids will take it seriously are ridiculous. People around here think that paying for a GCL school makes you some big shot academic. On the east coast, a legit private school is $30-$40k a year for high school. Around here when folks pay $10-15k a year they think it makes them some elite academic talent and that their birthright is to go to an Ivy league school. It's just not the case. The difference in the education at the GCL schools and the public schools locally (not CPS) is miniscule. Look at the numbers before you make that assumption.

blackattack

10-26-2010, 05:21 PM

How many times does this need to be discussed? There is NO anti-UC bias at GCL schools. St. X had 73 students from its 2010 graduating class attend UC, far more than any other school. If there was a bias against UC, it's gone.

There IS a bias against UC by the coaches & athletes at GCL schools. If you don't see it......you're in denial.

blackattack

10-26-2010, 05:34 PM

i'm talking Lakota, Mason, Kings, Oak Hills, etc...
percentage of kids going to college is not a good indicator as that is dependent upon many other factors. I'm talking Ohio standardized testing results. With these standards, there is not a lot of difference between public and private here in the state.

No difference in standardized test scores between a Mount Healthy and a Madeira ????............I know without even looking at the scores that's not true.

catscratchfever

10-26-2010, 06:04 PM

No difference in standardized test scores between a Mount Healthy and a Madeira ????............I know without even looking at the scores that's not true.

who said anything about mt healthy?

Lobot

10-26-2010, 08:20 PM

why did james and massa choose ND then? ND has a history of coaches not sticking around, and as to your second point, BK just happens to be there coach there now..

James was headed to ND regardless and Massa was part of a package deal to get James. Massa will never see the field at ND or would he have at UC.

colocat

10-26-2010, 09:25 PM

There IS a bias against UC by the coaches & athletes at GCL schools. If you don't see it......you're in denial.

That's not what I was responding to. Please take the time to read the post that I was commenting on.

blackattack

10-26-2010, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by blackattack View Post
No difference in standardized test scores between a Mount Healthy and a Madeira ????............I know without even looking at the scores that's not true.

who said anything about mt healthy?

Sorry, I meant to say Moeller......in other words there is a big difference academically between your average public high school (like Mt Healthy) and a GCL school (like Moeller, St X, etc).

catscratchfever

10-26-2010, 10:46 PM

Sorry, I meant to say Moeller......in other words there is a big difference academically between your average public high school (like Mt Healthy) and a GCL school (like Moeller, St X, etc).

the average public high school yes..my point is that there is not much of a difference between a GCL school and many of the local public high schools (like Lakota, Mason, Sycamore, Kings, etc..) too many folks around here thinkg that just because they went to a "private" school, that they are somehow elite..it's just not so!

chase1050

10-27-2010, 12:15 AM

- 10 of the players are from the GCL (7 from the "big 4", and 3 from the smaller schools)

For those of us that aren't in on the Cincy high school knowledge, who are the "big 4"? Also, what makes them different/better?

mopper

10-27-2010, 12:54 AM

For those of us that aren't in on the Cincy high school knowledge, who are the "big 4"? Also, what makes them different/better?

The Big 4 in Cincinnati High School Football are St. X, Elder, Moeller and La Salle. Those are the four schools that Comprise the GCL South which is regarded by most to have the highest level of completion in the state. As for what makes them better for the most part that is history. X, Moe and Elder have won multiple state titles in Football.

GoCats1994

10-27-2010, 10:30 AM

For those of us that aren't in on the Cincy high school knowledge, who are the "big 4"? Also, what makes them different/better?

Several years ago, the local catholic league (GCL) split into North and South divisions. The split was basically along the lines of the size of the schools. The biggest 4 stayed on one side of the league (St X, Elder, Moeller, LaSalle) and the rest went to the other side of the league).

dbernie41

10-27-2010, 11:09 AM

Can we get back on topic please? I see all these updates in the Daniels thread and am looking for some news and find none!

DCrack

10-27-2010, 12:56 PM

Can we get back on topic please? I see all these updates in the Daniels thread and am looking for some news and find none!

I couldn't agree more!
I don't understand why any defensive player would not be intersted in UC if he wanted to play for a BCS School and be on the field ASAP as a freshmen. If Daniels doesn't want to go to UC because it is too close to home or he wants a Parochial College Education than lets move on to Grigsby, Harrell, etc. and drop the whole notion the GCL is out to get UC. That is obsurd.

Racinejake

10-27-2010, 01:17 PM

This probably deserves a separate thread but basically we're down to Daniels, Poole, Grigsby, Harrell, Snyder (just offered last week), P. Johnson, Andrew Smith, Dunaway, and LaQuentin Smith. I'm basically assuming that Dawson, Daniel, Duggan, Lewis, Wilson, and Paul are out of the picture.

If nothing else I think we need to land Grigsby, Johnson, and Snyder. Johnson and Snyder look like prototypical MLBs with Grigsby playing on the outside. Actually Johnson and Snyder played together in Michigan before Johnson moved to Ohio this year. I know that we all had high hopes for landing the guys on our early offer list but at a minimum we need to get these 3 guys to give us some depth and hopefully will turn into solid college players down the road.

DCrack

10-27-2010, 04:06 PM

Dunaway has been offered by Tenn which I believe Thegreatone stated earlier was his first choice. It was also mentioned that he has academic issues.

cincycpaw

10-27-2010, 04:24 PM

Dunaway has been offered by Tenn which I believe Thegreatone stated earlier was his first choice. It was also mentioned that he has academic issues.

Why would anyone want to go play for the Germans in WWII?

bearcat29

10-27-2010, 07:08 PM

yeah, they bombed Pearl Harbor.

Ding Chavez

10-28-2010, 08:51 PM

GCL South schools are also all-male, the GCL North schools are co-ed. So since they have fewer guys, they're typically not as good at football as the South schools.

Montrell

11-02-2010, 03:05 PM

There IS a bias against UC by the coaches & athletes at GCL schools. If you don't see it......you're in denial.

It's the coaches and it is really only one in particular in the GCL-South.

Ramsey at Elder has sent a lot of players to UC in the past.

Grippa has also sent a couple from LaSalle that had other D-1 offers.

Rodenberg at Moeller is someone who will always be open to UC and won't bad mouth them.

I think you have 3 schools that are willing and open to letting UC in the door and one that isn't.

cat-attack2010

12-06-2010, 09:34 PM

Illinois was at St. Xavier today looking at Steve. So I think he is still gonna go to Louisville but I guess Illinois is in the mix now.

daap_bearcat97

12-15-2010, 08:50 AM

committed to BC per Mike Dyer.

bearcatfan80

12-15-2010, 09:07 AM

Yet another snub by a St. X player

leeey

12-15-2010, 09:22 AM

i wonder how much Kuechly getting AA status swayed him? Kuechly seems to be the last bomber of note to do anything at the D1 level that merits mentioning. Not saying the other guys are duds, but AA status is a notable accomplishment.

DCrack

12-15-2010, 10:18 AM

There is, as pointed out by many on this site, a pipeline from X to BC. The education and Catholic tradition is hard to beat. Having said that, how much talent has BC taken from this area and really not done much with it! There is home attendance is abysmal and following them as a fan has to be tough being that their closest away game is in Virginia. I wish HIM well but if he ended up at BC there was little this coaching staff could have done to sway him here. BC AND UC ARE AS ABOUT AS FAR APART AS INSTITUTIONS AND PROGRAMS AS IS POSSIBLE!

catscratchfever

12-15-2010, 12:11 PM

Rational Cat

12-15-2010, 12:39 PM

It's the coaches and it is really only one in particular in the GCL-South.

Ramsey at Elder has sent a lot of players to UC in the past.

Grippa has also sent a couple from LaSalle that had other D-1 offers.

Rodenberg at Moeller is someone who will always be open to UC and won't bad mouth them.

I think you have 3 schools that are willing and open to letting UC in the door and one that isn't.

Ramsey has also sent his very best players to Notre Dame...as has Grippa (Ben Martin, and Posey went to OSU)).

I also wish that Daniels would have come to UC, and Kuechly, and Pat Muldoon, who will one day be a beast for Wisconsin.

The BC connection with St. X is Jesuit education, not merely Catholic school education. Men have been going to BC from St. X for a very long time. It is the only remaining D1 Jesuit football playing school. For the parents of many St. X students, a Jesuit education is paramount.

BK gave Danny Milligan a scholly when nearly no one else would, trying to break that door down. He had Matt James and Luke Massa coming here, until BK left for ND.

A lot of the non all GCL type players from St. X wind up going to Ivy League schools- Penn has a least 3 Bombers on their team that I know of.

Just for the record, there are very many of us Bomber/Bearcats out there. The school that most St. X grad attend for college is....UC. Over 70 last year, I believe.

Bearcats000

12-15-2010, 10:57 PM

Steve just committed to Boston College. I go to St X

JohnFrancis

12-17-2010, 04:14 PM

they may be far apart as insitutions but as programs???? i don't know much about BC, but I do know that they haven't been good in about 15 years at least

You might want to GOOGLE their football record, bowl games and bowl wins over the last 10 to 11 years - not too shabby. Everyone thinks back to the Flutie years, but they have had some good years since, put a lot of OL in the pros, and some decent QBs (Hasselbeck (sp?), Foley, the Flacons QB, etc).

I am a native Bostonian, UC, grad, Catholic, have two siblings that went to BC. Aside from the academics and Catholic connection for St. X, Elder, etc., Boston is a college town -lot of parties going on at various schools (including the all-female colleges), lots to do, lots to see, 4 major pro sports teams, so even though I like the Queen City), the chance to spend your college years in Beantown is just tough to turn down.