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bearcatn8
11-07-2007, 12:59 PM
My prediction for the season:
Belmont - W
Western Carolina - W
11/11 Bowling Green - W
11/16 Coastal Carolina - W
11/24 Fairfield - W
11/26 USC Upstate - W
12/1 at UAB - L
12/8 at Illinois State - W
12/12 at Xavier - L
12/19 No. 3 Memphis - L
12/23 at No. 24 North Carolina State - L
12/29 Miami (OH) - W
01/1 at No. 6 Louisville - L
01/5 at St. John's - L
01/9 Syracuse - W
01/12 No. 25 Villanova - W
01/15 at Notre Dame - L
01/19 No. 20 Pittsburgh - W
01/23 Connecticut - L
01/27 at Seton Hall - L
01/30 at West Virginia - L
02/2 No. 12 Marquette - L
02/9 at Rutgers - W
02/13 St. John's - W
02/20 South Florida - W
02/23 at No. 5 Georgetown - L
02/27 at No. 20 Pittsburgh - L
03/2 Providence - W
03/6 DePaul - W
03/8 at Connecticut - L
Final Record: 16 – 14 (8-10 Big East); first round loss in Big East Tournament as 12 seed; squeaks into the NIT (losing in second round in road game)
Final Verdict - Much improved from year 1 under Cronin (even the losses are a lot more competitive) but still a year or two away from the NCAA tourney.
Biggest win comes at home against a nationally ranked 'Nova squad.
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
11-07-2007, 01:15 PM
My prediction for the season:
Belmont - W
Western Carolina - W
11/11 Bowling Green - W
11/16 Coastal Carolina - W
11/24 Fairfield - W
11/26 USC Upstate - W
12/1 at UAB - L
12/8 at Illinois State - W
12/12 at Xavier - L
12/19 No. 3 Memphis - L
12/23 at No. 24 North Carolina State - L
12/29 Miami (OH) - W
01/1 at No. 6 Louisville - L
01/5 at St. John's - L
01/9 Syracuse - W
01/12 No. 25 Villanova - W
01/15 at Notre Dame - L
01/19 No. 20 Pittsburgh - W
01/23 Connecticut - L
01/27 at Seton Hall - L
01/30 at West Virginia - L
02/2 No. 12 Marquette - L
02/9 at Rutgers - W
02/13 St. John's - W
02/20 South Florida - W
02/23 at No. 5 Georgetown - L
02/27 at No. 20 Pittsburgh - L
03/2 Providence - W
03/6 DePaul - W
03/8 at Connecticut - L
Final Record: 16 – 14 (8-10 Big East); first round loss in Big East Tournament as 12 seed; squeaks into the NIT (losing in second round in road game)
Final Verdict - Much improved from year 1 under Cronin (even the losses are a lot more competitive) but still a year or two away from the NCAA tourney.
Biggest win comes at home against a nationally ranked 'Nova squad.
17 or 18 W and 12 or 13 L - no idea which are W and L (game-by-game).
CincyBeerCo
11-07-2007, 01:30 PM
Belmont - W
Western Carolina - W
11/11 Bowling Green - W
11/16 Coastal Carolina - W
11/24 Fairfield - W
11/26 USC Upstate - W
12/1 at UAB - W
12/8 at Illinois State - L
12/12 at Xavier - L
12/19 No. 3 Memphis - L
12/23 at No. 24 North Carolina State - W
12/29 Miami (OH) - W
01/1 at No. 6 Louisville - L
01/5 at St. John's - W
01/9 Syracuse - W
01/12 No. 25 Villanova - L
01/15 at Notre Dame - W
01/19 No. 20 Pittsburgh - W
01/23 Connecticut - L
01/27 at Seton Hall - W
01/30 at West Virginia - L
02/2 No. 12 Marquette - L
02/9 at Rutgers - W
02/13 St. John's - W
02/20 South Florida - W
02/23 at No. 5 Georgetown - W
02/27 at No. 20 Pittsburgh - L
03/2 Providence - W
03/6 DePaul - W
03/8 at Connecticut - L
20-10 (11-7).
I just went through game by game and went with my gut. Actually kind of surprised the record turned out so strong....Oh well, thats the fun of predictions and being a fan. GO CATS!!!
jkwuc89
11-07-2007, 01:47 PM
11/9 Belmont - W
11/10 Western Carolina - W
11/11 Bowling Green - W
11/16 Coastal Carolina - W
11/24 Fairfield - W
11/26 USC Upstate - W
12/1 at UAB - W
12/8 at Illinois State - L
12/12 at Xavier - L
12/19 No. 3 Memphis - L
12/23 at No. 24 North Carolina State - L
12/29 Miami (OH) - W
01/1 at No. 6 Louisville - L
01/5 at St. John's - W
01/9 Syracuse - W
01/12 No. 25 Villanova - L
01/15 at Notre Dame - W
01/19 No. 20 Pittsburgh - L
01/23 Connecticut - L
01/27 at Seton Hall - W
01/30 at West Virginia - L
02/2 No. 12 Marquette - L
02/9 at Rutgers - W
02/13 St. John's - W
02/20 South Florida - W
02/23 at No. 5 Georgetown - L
02/27 at No. 20 Pittsburgh - L
03/2 Providence - W
03/6 DePaul - W
03/8 at Connecticut - L
17-13 (9-9)
I compiled this before Mike got injured!!!
Nov 9, Cincinnati vs Belmont 1-0
Nov 10, Cincinnati vs Western Carolina 2-0
Nov 11, Cincinnati vs Bowling Green 3-0
Nov. 16, COASTAL CAROLINA 4-0
Nov. 24, FAIRFIELD 5-0
Nov. 26, SOUTH CAROLINA UPSTATE 6-0
Dec. 1, at UAB 6-1
Dec. 8, at Illinois State 7-1
Dec. 12, at Xavier 8-1
Dec. 19, MEMPHIS 8-2
Dec. 23, at NC State 9-2
Dec. 29, vs. Miami 10-2
Jan. 1, at Louisville* 10-3 0-1
Jan. 5, at St. John's* 11-3 1-1
Jan. 9, SYRACUSE* 11-4 1-2
Jan. 12, VILLANOVA* 12-4 2-2
Jan. 15, at Notre Dame* 12-5 2-3
Jan. 19, PITTSBURGH* 13-5 3-3
Jan. 23, CONNECTICUT* 14-5 4-3
Jan. 27, at Seton Hall* 15-5 5-3
Jan. 30, at West Virginia* 15-6 5-4
Feb. 2, MARQUETTE * 16-6 6-4
Feb. 9, at Rutgers* 17-6 7-4
Feb. 13, SAINT JOHN'S* 18-6 8-4
Feb. 20, SOUTH FLORIDA* 19-6 9-4
Feb. 23, at Georgetown* 19-7 9-5
Feb. 27, at Pittsburgh* 19-8 9-6
March 2, PROVIDENCE* 20-8 10-6
March 6, DEPAUL* 21-8 11-6
March 8, at Connecticut* 21-9 11-7
Bartman
11-07-2007, 02:33 PM
12-18 (5-13) No post season again...
I hope I am wrong.
bearcatmark
11-07-2007, 02:37 PM
The Bearcats will start out 6-0 this season, though the Belmont game and the Bowling Green game will be close for a while. The Bearcats will then go through a major run of losing, winning games here and there. I do not think we can steal one from XU again this year. I think the Bearcats go 14-16 overall, and 6-12 in the Big East. We could perhaps win two or three more overall and one or two more in the conference. I think we will be right on the boarder of going to the Big East tourney or not. It may depend on head to head with the other boarder team.
shaunsimpson
11-07-2007, 02:41 PM
Some optimistic predictions here. Watch out for Illinois State.
The record will be dependent on the ability to beat Depaul, Providence, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, Villonova, West Virginia.
Any win over other teams in conference are bonus in my book - Georgetown, Marquette, Louisville, Syracuse, Uconn, Pitt.
Rutgers, South Florida, St Johns need to be wins.
With that being said. I think 17-13 is the best this team will do and that would be playing above the talent of the team. Remember how Uconn's talented freshman played in their first year of the Big East. I don't know if the seniors on this team are good enough to play better than that. I would be thrilled for the 17-13 and making it to the NIT and Big East tournamnet.
Bp4thebest
11-07-2007, 03:04 PM
Belmont - W
Western Carolina - W
11/11 Bowling Green - W
11/16 Coastal Carolina - W
11/24 Fairfield - W
11/26 USC Upstate - W
12/1 at UAB - W
12/8 at Illinois State - L
12/12 at Xavier - L
12/19 No. 3 Memphis - L
12/23 at No. 24 North Carolina State - W
12/29 Miami (OH) - W
01/1 at No. 6 Louisville - L
01/5 at St. John's - W
01/9 Syracuse - W
01/12 No. 25 Villanova - L
01/15 at Notre Dame - W
01/19 No. 20 Pittsburgh - W
01/23 Connecticut - L
01/27 at Seton Hall - W
01/30 at West Virginia - L
02/2 No. 12 Marquette - L
02/9 at Rutgers - W
02/13 St. John's - W
02/20 South Florida - W
02/23 at No. 5 Georgetown - W
02/27 at No. 20 Pittsburgh - L
03/2 Providence - W
03/6 DePaul - W
03/8 at Connecticut - L
20-10 (11-7).
I just went through game by game and went with my gut. Actually kind of surprised the record turned out so strong....Oh well, thats the fun of predictions and being a fan. GO CATS!!!
U got some shakey losses in non con but running through the big east well... idk man lol
Bp4thebest
11-07-2007, 03:09 PM
10-2 non con 7-11 big east record... 17-13 overall.. eleven or 12 seed in big east tourney.. either just in or just out of the nit.. probably just out.. with next year being nit for sure and bubble in ncaa... two years from now i say lock for ncaa's.. i think this year that span of illinois st xu memphis nc st and uab will result in two losses but i feel we will beat either xu or nc st as our big non con win.. we will also compete in alot more big east games and come out with one maybe two upsets.. and out of the handful of teams we should beat in our con i think we will slip up once in a frustrating loss!
Bp4thebest
11-07-2007, 03:11 PM
one other thing.. i told my friend to watch out for ill st on the road and he said thats an easy win.. alot of ppl on here agree with me.. i think we will win but i feel they will give a good game and wouldnt shock me if they win.. its alot of freshmans first college road game.. anyone know how big ill st stands are?
ralph1950
11-07-2007, 03:16 PM
Final record will be 12-18.
daaphearthrob
11-07-2007, 03:29 PM
My prediction for the season...
Nov 9, Cincinnati vs Belmont W
Nov 10, Cincinnati vs Western Carolina W
Nov 11, Cincinnati vs Bowling Green W
Nov. 16, COASTAL CAROLINA W
Nov. 24, FAIRFIELD W
Nov. 26, SOUTH CAROLINA UPSTATE W
Dec. 1, at UAB W
Dec. 8, at Illinois State W
Dec. 12, at Xavier BIG W
Dec. 19, MEMPHIS W
Dec. 23, at NC State W
Dec. 29, vs. Miami W
Jan. 1, at Louisville* W
Jan. 5, at St. John's* W
Jan. 9, SYRACUSE* W
Jan. 12, VILLANOVA* W
Jan. 15, at Notre Dame* W
Jan. 19, PITTSBURGH* W
Jan. 23, CONNECTICUT* W
Jan. 27, at Seton Hall* W
Jan. 30, at West Virginia* W
Feb. 2, MARQUETTE * W
Feb. 9, at Rutgers* W
Feb. 13, SAINT JOHN'S* W
Feb. 20, SOUTH FLORIDA* W
Feb. 23, at Georgetown* W
Feb. 27, at Pittsburgh* W
March 2, PROVIDENCE* W
March 6, DEPAUL* W
March 8, at Connecticut* W
30-0... Call me an optimist.
Bearcat_DF
11-07-2007, 03:38 PM
OOC 7 - 5
BE: 8 - 10
15 - 15
Get in the BE tourney
Go Cats!
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CincyBeerCo
11-07-2007, 03:43 PM
U got some shakey losses in non con but running through the big east well... idk man lol
Hoping the youngins develop quickly enough to be a factor in some tough BEast games. I don't think the Ill. St. game should be considered a shaky loss, and I took the L @ X 'cause the underdog always seems to win (yeah, it made sense in my head but...???) :)
tophat
11-07-2007, 03:47 PM
I don't know what some of you guys are smoking, but this is the toughest schedule we've ever played, and we just lost our only legit inside threat. We've got mostly marginal holdovers from a really bad team and a bunch of freshmen.
Last year was about survival. This season is about rebuilding. There's alot more talent, but it's alot younger talent, and the schedule's much tougher. 15 wins will be a real achievement. 12 or 13 wouldn't surprise me at all.
DBSUC1982
11-07-2007, 03:56 PM
14-16 & 6-10 would be a realistic goal with 1st round BE Tourney loss.
MikeInClifton
11-07-2007, 04:23 PM
I would be happy with 15 wins, which would be 4 more than last year.
When Mike Williams went down, I reduced my prediction by two games.
Cronin Year One - 11 wins
My hope:
Cronin Year Two - 15 wins
Cronin Year Three - 19 wins
Cronin Year Four - 23 wins
(I know I may get hamemred for this but)
Sean Miller -
Year One - 17 wins
Year Two - 21 wins
Year Three - 25 wins
Sean Miller improved by four each year and I think Mick can do the same even though Cincinnati plays in a much stronger conference.
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
11-07-2007, 04:48 PM
...but this is the toughest schedule we've ever played...
Bearcats routinely played tough schedules in 1950's - 60's - 70's - 80's - 90's - even early 2000's.
The 2008 schedule is nowhere near the toughest ever played by UC.
Bearcat-in-Italy
11-07-2007, 05:01 PM
I'm feeling an 11 win season. 7 out of conference and 4 in conference.
11-19, more pain and suffering. But next year the light at the end of the tunnel begins to appear, we go .500, and then NIT the year after, then back to the big dance.
Cats4Ever
11-07-2007, 05:22 PM
:eek:
14 - 16
Key is the freshmen development.
And the defense improving.
slimm
11-07-2007, 05:36 PM
13-17 7-11 - Hopefully everything comes together for Coach and his team, and we avoid the constant pot holes this program seems to hit on a regular basis, so they can provide all of us an exciting and better than .500 season. Go Cats!
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swilsonsp4
11-07-2007, 05:36 PM
one other thing.. i told my friend to watch out for ill st on the road and he said thats an easy win.. alot of ppl on here agree with me.. i think we will win but i feel they will give a good game and wouldnt shock me if they win.. its alot of freshmans first college road game.. anyone know how big ill st stands are?
Actually, IL St is the 2nd road game (UAB one week earlier). Redbird Arena seats 10,200. It still won't be easy.
Last year, with a team of second-level players, the Cats had UAB, 'Cuse and Providence beaten, but couldn't hold the leads in the final minute. The talent and depth are considerably better now. A marginal winning season and an NIT bid are probable.
17 wins before reaching MSG, followed by no more than one win in the BE tourney, followed by sitting back Sunday night to see if the NIT comes calling.
TheDog
11-07-2007, 05:47 PM
My prediction...20-10 and 11-7 in conference. The Bearcats will look impressive and everyone will be wondering how good they would be with Mike Williams playing.
Unfortunately, but as in the past, UC will be the best win on Xavier's schedule.
Bearcats_Rule
11-07-2007, 05:51 PM
11-19 4-14.... If Big Mike didnt go down we could sneak a couple more in. I do feel the games will be a lot closer and more exciting. I look forward to watching the group develop.
GO CATS!
jeffto
11-07-2007, 06:28 PM
11-19 4-14.... If Big Mike didnt go down we could sneak a couple more in. I do feel the games will be a lot closer and more exciting. I look forward to watching the group develop.
GO CATS!
I think you're about right. The BEAST had an off year last year. Yes, we've improved on paper, but a lot of other teams have too.
I think the jury is still out on Mick's coaching ability. Recruits don't win games. Plays and players do. Can he develop them quickly and make smart decisions on the bench? Sometimes last year decisions were a little shaky (but his options were limited).
I was a little bothered by his comment on Mitchell filling in for Warren at the point: "I saw him play (the point) in high school," Cronin said. "He didn't pass it that much, but you couldn't take the ball from him." Are we going to see him play like he did in high school? Or will he be quickly coached into a better point guard?
I'm not really down on Mick, but let's not assume too much just yet.
SLMadiCat
11-07-2007, 06:36 PM
Final record will be 12-18.
Man, you really have changed your tune based on two preseason games. First they were 20-11, now 12-18. Quite a change.
Irishbearcat
11-07-2007, 07:25 PM
I say 13 wins. But I'm an optomist.
Kindog202
11-07-2007, 07:38 PM
I say NIT this year, with 16-18 regular season wins. I think this team will be vastly improved by the time February rolls around but it will be too late for a NCAA berth. Look for them to make some noise in the NIT.
Mick is a good game coach, once he gets the players to fit his system and they are comfortable with that system, the wins will follow fairly quickly. Remember this is the coach who almost pulled a first round upset against North Carolina a few years back with Murray State.
tophat
11-07-2007, 07:41 PM
Bearcats routinely played tough schedules in 1950's - 60's - 70's - 80's - 90's - even early 2000's.
The 2008 schedule is nowhere near the toughest ever played by UC.
I'll forget the 60's -- another era making comparisons difficult. But this schedule is much more difficult than those of other periods. No UC team has had to play 18 games in a conference comparable to the BE. And the pre-conference portion is also difficult with 5 tough games in a row, 4 of them on the road.
Bp4thebest
11-07-2007, 07:55 PM
Hoping the youngins develop quickly enough to be a factor in some tough BEast games. I don't think the Ill. St. game should be considered a shaky loss, and I took the L @ X 'cause the underdog always seems to win (yeah, it made sense in my head but...???) :)
we will be underdog this year...
bearcated
11-07-2007, 09:02 PM
Wow. 11-19? 12-18? I know losing big Mike hurts, but good grief they have twice as many bodies (and bigger ones too) than last year, and last years team went 11-19. Surely there will some improvement. My sense is 17-13 or 18-12. Maybe NIT. Some of these kids will develop. Who knew DV had game until we saw him last year.
Bp4thebest
11-08-2007, 01:36 AM
Actually, IL St is the 2nd road game (UAB one week earlier). Redbird Arena seats 10,200. It still won't be easy.
Last year, with a team of second-level players, the Cats had UAB, 'Cuse and Providence beaten, but couldn't hold the leads in the final minute. The talent and depth are considerably better now. A marginal winning season and an NIT bid are probable.
17 wins before reaching MSG, followed by no more than one win in the BE tourney, followed by sitting back Sunday night to see if the NIT comes calling.
Oh yeah i forgot about that and yes we had uab and cuse and prov locked up.. but a better roster didnt matter the team we had should of held on... if u recall.. warren could of sealed the cuse win with on of two bonus free throws in cuse and if ced made the wide open uncontested lay up we win or make our free throws.. those were both tough road games too.. and uab no way we should of lost a 5 point lead in 30 seconds.. thats the difference between 14-16 and a non last place finish last year and what actually happened.. those tipe of games plus other more competative games will turn into wins this year and atleast 16 probably 17 wins headed into MSG will be the result as you said
Bp4thebest
11-08-2007, 01:41 AM
I think you're about right. The BEAST had an off year last year. Yes, we've improved on paper, but a lot of other teams have too.
I think the jury is still out on Mick's coaching ability. Recruits don't win games. Plays and players do. Can he develop them quickly and make smart decisions on the bench? Sometimes last year decisions were a little shaky (but his options were limited).
I was a little bothered by his comment on Mitchell filling in for Warren at the point: "I saw him play (the point) in high school," Cronin said. "He didn't pass it that much, but you couldn't take the ball from him." Are we going to see him play like he did in high school? Or will he be quickly coached into a better point guard?
I'm not really down on Mick, but let's not assume too much just yet.
I read the exact quotes a couple hours ago and totally agree with u.. that is somehting we will have to see if mick can teach.. but i would also like to see alvin stay on th wing.. the injury allowed the young players to step up but if alvin plays point he wont develope on the wing as well which i feel is his future.. not point.. he probably only played it in high school b/c he had better ball skills then his teammates, this aint high school!
Bp4thebest
11-08-2007, 01:43 AM
I say NIT this year, with 16-18 regular season wins. I think this team will be vastly improved by the time February rolls around but it will be too late for a NCAA berth. Look for them to make some noise in the NIT.
Mick is a good game coach, once he gets the players to fit his system and they are comfortable with that system, the wins will follow fairly quickly. Remember this is the coach who almost pulled a first round upset against North Carolina a few years back with Murray State.
What exactly is micks system.. we dont know too well off last year where he had nothin to work with.. and coaching at murry st isnt like coaching here.. he has better players!
Inchickinkick
11-08-2007, 10:06 AM
20 wins 12-6 NCAA
17 wins 9-9 N.I.T
CincyBeerCo
11-08-2007, 10:57 AM
we will be underdog this year...
I agree. Point was, I put down an "L" to confirm underdog status, therefor resulting in an actual win :)
I don't know guys...all of this prediction stuff and preseason ranking stuff is pretty funny to me. So many people on here are getting worked up towards those that are staying optimistic. I don't get it. NOBODY on this forumn knows how this season will pan out. Could be 0-30 could be 30-0 (my guess is somewhere in between ;) ) My point is, people shouldn't be ostracised for predicting (hoping) the Cats perform extremely well. To be honest, if in my heart I felt like there was no hope for us, I probably would find something better to do with the time that i spend posting on a fan forum. We are all entitled to our opinions (positive or negatve), but the day I PREDICT a losing season (obviously it can and does happen....last year), is the day that.......ummm.....well.....Yeah, wouldn't ever do it. KEEP YOUR HEADS UP PEOPLE!!!! Things are coming around and we will soon be back where we belong, as a perennial top 10 team.
jkwuc89
11-08-2007, 02:00 PM
All of the posts comparing C-USA to the Big East have been moved out of this thread and into the thread below:
http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=645&highlight=big+east
Bearcat82
11-08-2007, 04:16 PM
Please....I know Mick was here last year, but comparing Cronin's 1st year with Miller's 1st year is an apples and oranges comparison. Let's be real and fair THIS is truly Mick's FIRST year!
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
11-08-2007, 04:46 PM
Please....I know Mick was here last year, but comparing Cronin's 1st year with Miller's 1st year is an apples and oranges comparison. Let's be real and fair THIS is truly Mick's FIRST year!
I think last year's team was capable of 15 or 16 W.
BasketBySteveLogan
11-08-2007, 04:57 PM
Unfortunately, this IS the toughest schedule the Bearcats have played since 1990 (I'm too youung to be an expert beyond that)... the month of December is BRUTAL - that literally could be a winless month, and then New Year's Day at Top 10 Louisville...
That being said, Mick won some games last year (and had chances to win a few more) against teams he had no business beating with a the weak squad he had on the court...
So you figure, with the guys back from last year, plus some talent, depth, and athleticism (albeit no experience).. Mick should be able to pull out some Ws. Plus, some of those teams in the Big East may end up being overrated anyway.
So I will say that the Bearcats win 16 games this season. He won 11 last year.. and he has plenty more to work with this season - it's just that the schedule is tougher.
Here's to hoping we don't lose by 50 to Memphis again!
P.S. Rashad is gonna be smooth. Remember that "Total Package" article way way back right after he verballed?
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
11-08-2007, 05:11 PM
Unfortunately, this IS the toughest schedule the Bearcats have played since 1990 (I'm too youung to be an expert beyond that)... the month of December is BRUTAL - that literally could be a winless month, and then New Year's Day at Top 10 Louisville...
That being said, Mick won some games last year (and had chances to win a few more) against teams he had no business beating with a the weak squad he had on the court...
So you figure, with the guys back from last year, plus some talent, depth, and athleticism (albeit no experience).. Mick should be able to pull out some Ws. Plus, some of those teams in the Big East may end up being overrated anyway.
So I will say that the Bearcats win 16 games this season. He won 11 last year.. and he has plenty more to work with this season - it's just that the schedule is tougher.
Here's to hoping we don't lose by 50 to Memphis again!
P.S. Rashad is gonna be smooth. Remember that "Total Package" article way way back right after he verballed?
http://bearcatnews.com/bearcats/basketball/archives/season_results.php?season=1991
Played B10 powerhouses Mich St and IU plus AT Tennessee in Dec 91.
Then tough Great Midwest conference schedule.
tophat
11-08-2007, 05:48 PM
It wasn't my intention to get into comparisons with past teams, etc, but rather to make the point that I don't think alot of posters realize how difficult it is to play an 18 game BE schedule, in addition to a tough December schedule. I also don't think people realize the impact Williams' injury is likely to have. I think losing him could mean a difference of as many as 6-7 games. Before he went down I was cautiously optimistic, and even gave us a chance to make the NCAA. We'll be a different team without him, I'm afraid. The PF position, instead of being a real strength, is now a weakness. Williamson isn't Hicks -- he just isn't big enough.
Bp4thebest
11-08-2007, 06:18 PM
Unfortunately, this IS the toughest schedule the Bearcats have played since 1990 (I'm too youung to be an expert beyond that)... the month of December is BRUTAL - that literally could be a winless month, and then New Year's Day at Top 10 Louisville...
That being said, Mick won some games last year (and had chances to win a few more) against teams he had no business beating with a the weak squad he had on the court...
So you figure, with the guys back from last year, plus some talent, depth, and athleticism (albeit no experience).. Mick should be able to pull out some Ws. Plus, some of those teams in the Big East may end up being overrated anyway.
So I will say that the Bearcats win 16 games this season. He won 11 last year.. and he has plenty more to work with this season - it's just that the schedule is tougher.
Here's to hoping we don't lose by 50 to Memphis again!
P.S. Rashad is gonna be smooth. Remember that "Total Package" article way way back right after he verballed?
can u give me the link to that article plz!
http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2JmZnYmVs N2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkzNjAwMDU4
jplog
11-08-2007, 06:37 PM
I'm saying 15 wins, despite a tougher schedule, improved talent means a few more wins.
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
11-08-2007, 09:19 PM
http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2JmZnYmVs N2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkzNjAwMDU4
He's the second Bearcat (ever) to hail from Paterson NJ - big Jack Ajzner was the first (in 1968-69-70).
Bearcat_DF
11-08-2007, 10:13 PM
I think last year's team was capable of 15 or 16 W.
I think this gets the prize for being optimistic . . .
Go Cats!
df
bearcatmark
12-27-2007, 12:52 PM
The Bearcats will start out 6-0 this season, though the Belmont game and the Bowling Green game will be close for a while. The Bearcats will then go through a major run of losing, winning games here and there. I do not think we can steal one from XU again this year. I think the Bearcats go 14-16 overall, and 6-12 in the Big East. We could perhaps win two or three more overall and one or two more in the conference. I think we will be right on the boarder of going to the Big East tourney or not. It may depend on head to head with the other boarder team.
I figured I would give a little refersher on the preseason predictions we all made. Looking back here is why I am disappointed so far, though encouraged by the improvement seen recently. I said 6-0 start with fights against Belmont and Bowling Green. Both ended up being losses. I said we’d go through a losing run, steeling games here and there. We have yet to steal one through that five game stretch so again you can see why I think we have performed below my expectations. Many people predicted 18-20 win seasons. Are you disappointed with where we are at this point? Anyone ready to revisit their predictions? I said we would win 14… if we continue to progress I still think we can get close to .500…still… 10-12 wins is seeming more likely right now.
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
12-27-2007, 05:06 PM
I think this gets the prize for being optimistic . . .
Go Cats!
df
They won 11 games and just missed on 4 or 5 others, hence the 15 or 16 number.
This year, I hope for 10+ W from where we stand right now. (4-7 currently)
Bearcat_DF
12-27-2007, 08:42 PM
OOC 7 - 5
BE: 8 - 10
15 - 15
Get in the BE tourney
Go Cats!
df
I'm disappointed. This team is under-performing related to my expectations. Given what I've seen so far - I can only imagine 3 more wins!
7-23! Yikes.
go cats
df
Bearcat_DF
12-27-2007, 08:43 PM
They won 11 games and just missed on 4 or 5 others, hence the 15 or 16 number.
This year, I hope for 10+ W from where we stand right now. (4-7 currently)
they've played the game - they were capable of 11 wins. Period.
df
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
12-28-2007, 06:35 AM
they've played the game - they were capable of 11 wins. Period.
df
Nope. They were capable of more. They only had 11 W but did not achieve a higher level.
Bearcat_DF
12-28-2007, 08:26 AM
LOL - Hilarious.
Don't let anything like facts get in the way - as in, the they played 30 games and were able to win 11. Or maybe I don't understand why they play the game.
I know - your opinion - judgment of their abilities is far greater than the evidence of their abilities . . .
and we all know - we can't argue with your opinion, even when the facts stand in the way!
go cats
df
bearcatmark
12-28-2007, 09:08 AM
LOL - Hilarious.
Don't let anything like facts get in the way - as in, the they played 30 games and were able to win 11. Or maybe I don't understand why they play the game.
I know - your opinion - judgment of their abilities is far greater than the evidence of their abilities . . .
and we all know - we can't argue with your opinion, even when the facts stand in the way!
go cats
df
His point was they were close a number of times, as an inexperienced team... It seemed that they would be able to take the next step and win those games this season.
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
12-28-2007, 11:15 AM
His point was they were close a number of times, as an inexperienced team... It seemed that they would be able to take the next step and win those games this season.
Bingo! I'm glad SOMEONE can read and comprehend.
The 2007 Bearcats won a couple (X, NC St) that some might have thought would be L but both were at home. They lost 4 or 5 games (Wofford and several BEast games) that could easily have been W.
15 or 16 W were achievable. But 11 W were achieved.
jeffto
12-28-2007, 05:33 PM
Bingo! I'm glad SOMEONE can read and comprehend.
The 2007 Bearcats won a couple (X, NC St) that some might have thought would be L but both were at home. They lost 4 or 5 games (Wofford and several BEast games) that could easily have been W.
15 or 16 W were achievable. But 11 W were achieved.Sugar coat if you like, but they WON 11 games. "could have easily been W." Shoulda, woulda, coulda - didn't.
This year they've had a few "coulda's" too, but so far no surprise wins. Almost every remaining game will have to be a surprise win.
I see about 8-9 wins this year, and I'll be okay with that as long as they keep improving.
Bearcat Fan Since 1958
12-28-2007, 06:17 PM
There were several games that UC clearly should have had W's last season.
There are several games this year where UC played better than expected.
Big difference.
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