I don't like my coach saying this

[Nator]

".....and we're out there with a lot of freshmen and no Jamual Warren and no Mike Williams."

I know its true and factual but it really bothered me when reading the article. Excuses should be for private moments and in your own brain. I would argue they don't do much good there either.

[Catmandu]

".....and we're out there with a lot of freshmen and no Jamual Warren and no Mike Williams."

I know its true and factual but it really bothered me when reading the article. Excuses should be for private moments and in your own brain. I would argue they don't do much good there either.

I brought that up in another thread.... Cronin actually does this alot, every interview he brings up some excuse.....

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Learned it from the master (Pitino).

[Catmandu]

Learned it from the master (Pitino).

This I agree with 100% I can't stand when he does it either, it's poor leadership

[tophat]

Learned it from the master (Pitino).

Learned it from the master (Huggins).

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Learned it from the master (Huggins).

Huggs never made excuses. Nor did Kennedy.

[Catmandu]

Learned it from the master (Huggins).

you must be a pretty young bearcat fan, huggins didn't make excuses he just said "I just don't know Chuck"

he also was known for saying "I only worry about the players that are on the court.

He certainly didn't learn this from Huggins... can you give and example?

[STKohls]

".....and we're out there with a lot of freshmen and no Jamual Warren and no Mike Williams."

I know its true and factual but it really bothered me when reading the article. Excuses should be for private moments and in your own brain. I would argue they don't do much good there either.


You're right about the quote being "true and factual". Don't you think those 2 experienced players would have made a difference, and allowed UC to ease their freshmen into Div I play instead of throwing them in there?

Coach Cronin also said:
"One of my thought processes in scheduling them was that I thought they'd be really good. Last year, although we got some wins early, we didn't live in reality, and it hurt us when we got to the Big East."

It sounds like the Coach has the big picture in mind, and is working to get the team better instead of taking some cupcake wins. Let's wait and see how the freshmen are playing in December and January. Remember Kenyon Martin as a freshman? These guys deserve more than a single game to show their ability.

[SLMadiCat]

Huggs never made excuses. Nor did Kennedy.

Selective memory is a nice thing to have.

"I don't know Chuck, they just don't listen". Remind you of anybody?

[jkwuc89]

...or...

"they don't play hard"
"you have to be pretty stupid to have to lose to learn"
"we just aren't very good"

Regardless, we seem to be nitpicking a bit.

[Big B]

Huuggins remarked his team sucked after wins. We can only image what he would say after losing to lowly Belmont. Not pretty or printable.

[Deaf_Bearcat]

I am going to throw away my 2006-07 Cronin coaching season judgement. I know it was a major rebuilding year.

However, I am starting to count my judgement since last night's game. I know it was a tough loss last night, but I would give him a couple or maybe 3 years to make my final judgement on him. If UC continues to lose tonight and a couple more next games, then it is going to be a long season.

Thank God, we are enjoying UC's football season success right now.

[KirbyN03]

This wasn't a total slouch team we played. It was probably a good one to schedule early to point out what needs to be worked on.

I've seen Cronin speak a few times, and he does dog his team and make some excuses more then I would care to see. I gave him a hall pass for it last year, but this year needs to be different.

[tophat]

you must be a pretty young bearcat fan, huggins didn't make excuses he just said "I just don't know Chuck"

he also was known for saying "I only worry about the players that are on the court.

He certainly didn't learn this from Huggins... can you give and example?

Huggins blamed his players all the time, as if he wasn't the one who recruited them. Kennedy constantly referred to the "post-Kirkland era", an obvious reference to having to play without kirkland. Besides, MC has walked into a more diifficult situation than either of them had.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Selective memory is a nice thing to have.

"I don't know Chuck, they just don't listen". Remind you of anybody?

Huggs coached the players he had. So did Kennedy. No excuses.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

...or...

"they don't play hard"
"you have to be pretty stupid to have to lose to learn"
"we just aren't very good"

Regardless, we seem to be nitpicking a bit.

I hear lots more excuses this year and last than I heard in years gone by.

Then again, the Years Gone By produced 420-140 record.

Last year and this, 11-20.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Huggins blamed his players all the time, as if he wasn't the one who recruited them. Kennedy constantly referred to the "post-Kirkland era", an obvious reference to having to play without kirkland. Besides, MC has walked into a more diifficult situation than either of them had.

The 2006 team had 9 scholarship players, only 6 who were Div I talents. Kirkland made it 5.

13-2 in the former. 8-11 in the latter.

Date Result Site Record Conf
Sat Nov 19 Cincinnati 79, (93) Murray St. 75 (OT) Home 1-0
Tue Nov 22 Cincinnati 76, (169) Illinois St. 59 Home 2-0
Fri Nov 25 Cincinnati 77, (119) Holy Cross 55 Home 3-0
Tue Nov 29 (137) Dayton 75, Cincinnati 66 Home 3-1
Sat Dec 3 (9) Memphis 91, Cincinnati 81 Home 3-2
Sat Dec 10 Cincinnati 92, (49) Vanderbilt 83 Away 4-2
Wed Dec 14 Cincinnati 86, (109) Ohio 58 Home 5-2
Sat Dec 17 Cincinnati 105, (214) Tennessee Tech 62 Home 6-2
Mon Dec 19 Cincinnati 84, (NR) Arkansas Monticello 63 Home 7-2
Thu Dec 22 Cincinnati 81, (137) Dayton 63 Neutral (Las Vegas, NV) 8-2
Fri Dec 23 Cincinnati 75, (10) Louisiana St. 72 Neutral (Las Vegas, NV) 9-2
Wed Dec 28 Cincinnati 75, (111) Miami OH 65 Home 10-2
Fri Dec 30 Cincinnati 105, (324) North Carolina A&T 69 Home 11-2
Wed Jan 4 Cincinnati 82, (82) DePaul 60 Home 12-2 1-0
Sat Jan 7 Cincinnati 70, (28) Marquette 66 Away 13-2 2-0
Mon Jan 9 (4) Connecticut 70, Cincinnati 59 Away 13-3 2-1
Sat Jan 14 (51) Syracuse 77, Cincinnati 58 Home 13-4 2-2
Thu Jan 19 (68) Xavier 73, Cincinnati 71 (OT) Away 13-5
Sun Jan 22 Cincinnati 71, (69) Rutgers 66 Home 14-5 3-2
Wed Jan 25 (38) Louisville 67, Cincinnati 50 Away 14-6 3-3
Sat Jan 28 (14) Georgetown 76, Cincinnati 57 Away 14-7 3-4
Tue Jan 31 Cincinnati 73, (162) South Florida 60 Home 15-7 4-4
Sat Feb 4 (16) West Virginia 66, Cincinnati 57 Away 15-8 4-5
Mon Feb 6 Cincinnati 74, (38) Louisville 68 Home 16-8 5-5
Sun Feb 12 (12) Pittsburgh 89, Cincinnati 69 Away 16-9 5-6
Wed Feb 15 Cincinnati 82, (51) Syracuse 65 Away 17-9 6-6
Fri Feb 17 Cincinnati 66, (71) Providence 64 Home 18-9 7-6
Thu Feb 23 (7) Villanova 74, Cincinnati 72 Home 18-10 7-7
Tue Feb 28 (84) Seton Hall 72, Cincinnati 62 Away 18-11 7-8
Sat Mar 4 Cincinnati 78, (16) West Virginia 75 Home 19-11 8-8
Big East Conference Tournament
Wed Mar 8 (51) Syracuse 74, Cincinnati 73 Neutral (New York, NY) 19-12
Postseason
Fri Mar 17 Cincinnati 86, (92) Charlotte 80 Home 20-12
Tue Mar 21 Cincinnati 76, (79) Minnesota 62 Home 21-12
Thu Mar 23 (15) South Carolina 65, Cincinnati 62 Home 21-13

[Catmandu]

Huggins blamed his players all the time, as if he wasn't the one who recruited them. Kennedy constantly referred to the "post-Kirkland era", an obvious reference to having to play without kirkland. Besides, MC has walked into a more diifficult situation than either of them had.

blaming players(that are on the court) for not playing hard or not listening isn't making excuses.

that's coaching the players that are here, using players that aren't here as an excuse was not something he did... heck even when he suspended players or sent them to the lockerroom he didn't use the fact that they weren't out there as an excuse i never heard him say "if Eric martin were on the court this wouldn't have happened".

Not only that, cronin has been pretty consistent with this, he's had way more "excuses" than kennedy or huggins did, and he's only been here a year and a game.

[tophat]

The 2006 team had 9 scholarship players, only 6 who were Div I talents. Kirkland made it 5.

13-2 in the former. 8-11 in the latter.

Date Result Site Record Conf
Sat Nov 19 Cincinnati 79, (93) Murray St. 75 (OT) Home 1-0
Tue Nov 22 Cincinnati 76, (169) Illinois St. 59 Home 2-0
Fri Nov 25 Cincinnati 77, (119) Holy Cross 55 Home 3-0
Tue Nov 29 (137) Dayton 75, Cincinnati 66 Home 3-1
Sat Dec 3 (9) Memphis 91, Cincinnati 81 Home 3-2
Sat Dec 10 Cincinnati 92, (49) Vanderbilt 83 Away 4-2
Wed Dec 14 Cincinnati 86, (109) Ohio 58 Home 5-2
Sat Dec 17 Cincinnati 105, (214) Tennessee Tech 62 Home 6-2
Mon Dec 19 Cincinnati 84, (NR) Arkansas Monticello 63 Home 7-2
Thu Dec 22 Cincinnati 81, (137) Dayton 63 Neutral (Las Vegas, NV) 8-2
Fri Dec 23 Cincinnati 75, (10) Louisiana St. 72 Neutral (Las Vegas, NV) 9-2
Wed Dec 28 Cincinnati 75, (111) Miami OH 65 Home 10-2
Fri Dec 30 Cincinnati 105, (324) North Carolina A&T 69 Home 11-2
Wed Jan 4 Cincinnati 82, (82) DePaul 60 Home 12-2 1-0
Sat Jan 7 Cincinnati 70, (28) Marquette 66 Away 13-2 2-0
Mon Jan 9 (4) Connecticut 70, Cincinnati 59 Away 13-3 2-1
Sat Jan 14 (51) Syracuse 77, Cincinnati 58 Home 13-4 2-2
Thu Jan 19 (68) Xavier 73, Cincinnati 71 (OT) Away 13-5
Sun Jan 22 Cincinnati 71, (69) Rutgers 66 Home 14-5 3-2
Wed Jan 25 (38) Louisville 67, Cincinnati 50 Away 14-6 3-3
Sat Jan 28 (14) Georgetown 76, Cincinnati 57 Away 14-7 3-4
Tue Jan 31 Cincinnati 73, (162) South Florida 60 Home 15-7 4-4
Sat Feb 4 (16) West Virginia 66, Cincinnati 57 Away 15-8 4-5
Mon Feb 6 Cincinnati 74, (38) Louisville 68 Home 16-8 5-5
Sun Feb 12 (12) Pittsburgh 89, Cincinnati 69 Away 16-9 5-6
Wed Feb 15 Cincinnati 82, (51) Syracuse 65 Away 17-9 6-6
Fri Feb 17 Cincinnati 66, (71) Providence 64 Home 18-9 7-6
Thu Feb 23 (7) Villanova 74, Cincinnati 72 Home 18-10 7-7
Tue Feb 28 (84) Seton Hall 72, Cincinnati 62 Away 18-11 7-8
Sat Mar 4 Cincinnati 78, (16) West Virginia 75 Home 19-11 8-8
Big East Conference Tournament
Wed Mar 8 (51) Syracuse 74, Cincinnati 73 Neutral (New York, NY) 19-12
Postseason
Fri Mar 17 Cincinnati 86, (92) Charlotte 80 Home 20-12
Tue Mar 21 Cincinnati 76, (79) Minnesota 62 Home 21-12
Thu Mar 23 (15) South Carolina 65, Cincinnati 62 Home 21-13

That team had 3 blue chip seniors when Kirk was healthy, in addition to senior Mohammed and a dynamic pt guard in Downey. That's enough to be very good. It's QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY, that matters. After Kirk was lost, they became a team with a LOSING RECORD, and Kennedy spoke constantly of the "POST KIRKLAND ERA".

[tophat]

blaming players(that are on the court) for not playing hard or not listening isn't making excuses.

that's coaching the players that are here, using players that aren't here as an excuse was not something he did... heck even when he suspended players or sent them to the lockerroom he didn't use the fact that they weren't out there as an excuse i never heard him say "if Eric martin were on the court this wouldn't have happened".

Not only that, cronin has been pretty consistent with this, he's had way more "excuses" than kennedy or huggins did, and he's only been here a year and a game.

KENNEDY: "POST KIRKLAND ERA" Phrase he used about 100 times after he lost him. Unlike carpers here, I never blamed him for it.

Every time Huggins blamed a player, which he did from time to time, he was making an excuse for HIMSELF.

After Huggins lost Kmart he talked about how that loss affected the 2000 team. I'd never compare Williams to Kmart, but just as Kmart's loss crippled the 2000 team, Williams' injury was a crippling loss to this team. I said so several times after it happened, and what I saw last nite only confirmed it. Williams would have worn Belmont out inside.

[Kindog202]

I'd never compare Williams to Kmart, but just as Kmart's loss crippled the 2000team, Williams' injury was a crippling loss to this team. I said so several times after it happened, and what I saw last nite only confirmed it. Williams would have worn Belmont out inside.[/QUOTE]

I agree that it would have been nice to have Mike for the game but remember, he did only average about 2-3 points per game his sophmore year at Texas. He did look good in the summer league this year. Before I get ripped, I did figure him for about 15pts and 7 boards this year, but he still is an unknown quantity. He definitely would have produced more than he did at Texas given experience and opportunity, but how much more?

[Bp4thebest]

KENNEDY: "POST KIRKLAND ERA" Phrase he used about 100 times after he lost him. Unlike carpers here, I never blamed him for it.

Every time Huggins blamed a player, which he did from time to time, he was making an excuse for HIMSELF.

After Huggins lost Kmart he talked about how that loss affected the 2000 team. I'd never compare Williams to Kmart, but just as Kmart's loss crippled the 2000 team, Williams' injury was a crippling loss to this team. I said so several times after it happened, and what I saw last nite only confirmed it. Williams would have worn Belmont out inside.

exactly! thats all i wanted to say but apparently it has to be 10 characters long!

[jeffto]

I always got the feeling that whatever Huggins said about players was in large part for motivational purposes. Everything he did IMO was driven by getting the best out of the hand he dealt himself.

He, of course made some excuses about losses, but he didn't have nearly as many opportunities on a percentage basis.

[Bp4thebest]

not giving up on mick.. not even close.. but approval of him to this point as a coach on the court is not to be given yet! the youth is not an excuse as to why he has not coached well with the players he has! set aside that we lost to belmont im not saying he coached bad b/c we lost to them.. im saying he coached bad b/c he was not able to make adjustments at half time so that the wing men would stop standing around, so that his defense would contest shots an so that the team would play harder! those were not the only problems last night but those are the problems that should of been corrected last night.. also taking out adam too b/c although his numbers were fine.. the rest of his game sucked.. if u dont know what i mean then ask me ill be happy to explain! its just the way he coached gives me the impression that he isnt a good on the court coach.. its just one gaem he can prove me wrong still i wont give up on him but until he proves me wrong and starts realizng the mistakes i wont think otherwise.. lets hope he does! this is not even to mention what u guys are talking about.. the exuses need to stop and his intensity needs to step up or the young guys wont learn.. if they have talent thats good but if they are not tought they will go to waist... they need mick to fix their problems if they wanna be good b/c right now they are not a smart team so heres to hoping mick and the team developes.. i also wanna add that although mick is not new to coaching he is new to coaching at this level and coaching this talent.. so he needs to step it up!

[james jr]

blaming players(that are on the court) for not playing hard or not listening isn't making excuses.

that's coaching the players that are here, using players that aren't here as an excuse was not something he did... heck even when he suspended players or sent them to the lockerroom he didn't use the fact that they weren't out there as an excuse i never heard him say "if Eric martin were on the court this wouldn't have happened".

Not only that, cronin has been pretty consistent with this, he's had way more "excuses" than kennedy or huggins did, and he's only been here a year and a game.

I think the point is that we don't hear a lot of analysis of the coaching mistakes from Mick. It ALWAYS seems to be about the players. Any knowledgeable sports fan knows that college basketball is a COACHES game and the great teams have great coaches to coach the players. Sometimes the coach needs to take the hit!

[TheDog]

I'm not so sure about Cronin. We have to give him a couple more years before final judgement can be made. This is almost like his first year. I was actually impressed last year because he had virtually no team when he was hired and his team won 10+ games. I hate to say this so early in the year but we may have to wait until next year to see the Bearcats compete on the level we're accustomed to.

Last night, when Western Carolina shot the three and tied it at 9-9, I would have like to seen the coach call a time out and yell at somebody for poor defense. I know it's early but with such a poor defensive game the night before, I think it would have sent a message. Or better yet, I always liked the sub five for five in years past.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I'm not so sure about Cronin. We have to give him a couple more years before final judgement can be made. This is almost like his first year. I was actually impressed last year because he had virtually no team when he was hired and his team won 10+ games. I hate to say this so early in the year but we may have to wait until next year to see the Bearcats compete on the level we're accustomed to.

Last night, when Western Carolina shot the three and tied it at 9-9, I would have like to seen the coach call a time out and yell at somebody for poor defense. I know it's early but with such a poor defensive game the night before, I think it would have sent a message. Or better yet, I always liked the sub five for five in years past.

Successful at Murray St. UC is 2 or 3 steps up the ladder from that level.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

I'd never compare Williams to Kmart, but just as Kmart's loss crippled the 2000team, Williams' injury was a crippling loss to this team. I said so several times after it happened, and what I saw last nite only confirmed it. Williams would have worn Belmont out inside.

I agree that it would have been nice to have Mike for the game but remember, he did only average about 2-3 points per game his sophmore year at Texas. He did look good in the summer league this year. Before I get ripped, I did figure him for about 15pts and 7 boards this year, but he still is an unknown quantity. He definitely would have produced more than he did at Texas given experience and opportunity, but how much more?[/QUOTE]

Understand that but K-Mart was the #1 player in college in 2000. Williams is the #1 player on the UC roster but nowhere near Best Player In College Ball.

[capcbk]

Mick seems to walk a fine liine between critizing players when called for and not crushing their confidence...I'm OK with that!

Talking of no MW & JW deflects too much crap from being piled on a young team. I think that is a good thing. Mick also said Vaughn played poorly...and that he does not play that way in practice.

Basically, he is challenging his Stud, while protecting his freshmen...I call that great coaching psychology!!!!!!!

And...it seemed to help as they(and particularly Vaughn) delivered at crunch time last night!

[Catmandu]

I agree that it would have been nice to have Mike for the game but remember, he did only average about 2-3 points per game his sophmore year at Texas. He did look good in the summer league this year. Before I get ripped, I did figure him for about 15pts and 7 boards this year, but he still is an unknown quantity. He definitely would have produced more than he did at Texas given experience and opportunity, but how much more?

Understand that but K-Mart was the #1 player in college in 2000. Williams is the #1 player on the UC roster but nowhere near Best Player In College Ball.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but this has to be one of the most far out comparisons I've EVER heard.... Mike Williams hadn't played a game with this team this year, wasn't the #1 College player, will not be the #1 NBA draft pick.

Kmart was in the mix for the whole regular season, and was lost in a POST season tournament game, all their regular season wins were with him there, he was built into the offense, and was the number 1 defender...

I don't believe you even compared that. Losing Kmart wasn't an excuse... becuase he had demonstrated his value through the whole season... I agree if Willams and warren were on the floor it would have helped, but... does that mean we are going to hear that ALL season long?

[Catmandu]

Mick seems to walk a fine liine between critizing players when called for and not crushing their confidence...I'm OK with that!

Talking of no MW & JW deflects too much crap from being piled on a young team. I think that is a good thing. Mick also said Vaughn played poorly...and that he does not play that way in practice.

Basically, he is challenging his Stud, while protecting his freshmen...I call that great coaching psychology!!!!!!!

And...it seemed to help as they(and particularly Vaughn) delivered at crunch time last night!


1.) how do you know this doesn't "crush their confidence"
2.) there will be no MW for the rest of the year, does that mean the rest of the team is OK to lose? My point is, by focusing on that, he's basically setting up a built in excuse for the rest of the year, not only for him but for the players. How do you know the players aren't looking at each other saying, "Damn, I didn't know that MW was THE key to this team, but coach thinks so, guess I'm not the guy... etc etc"

[Bearcat Cafe]

Did you enjoy the game or are you still punishing the players and administration by not attending? :rolleyes:

[ME80]

You guys crack me up...it never ends

[jeffto]

Successful at Murray St. UC is 2 or 3 steps up the ladder from that level.

Not right now. ;)

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

Understand that but K-Mart was the #1 player in college in 2000. Williams is the #1 player on the UC roster but nowhere near Best Player In College Ball.

I'm sorry but this has to be one of the most far out comparisons I've EVER heard.... Mike Williams hadn't played a game with this team this year, wasn't the #1 College player, will not be the #1 NBA draft pick.

Kmart was in the mix for the whole regular season, and was lost in a POST season tournament game, all their regular season wins were with him there, he was built into the offense, and was the number 1 defender...

I don't believe you even compared that. Losing Kmart wasn't an excuse... becuase he had demonstrated his value through the whole season... I agree if Willams and warren were on the floor it would have helped, but... does that mean we are going to hear that ALL season long?[/QUOTE]

I didn't. Someone else made that comparison. I rebutted it, too.

[Catmandu]

I didn't. Someone else made that comparison. I rebutted it, too.


sorry, my bad, i knew that. I Replied to the wrong comment, we were certainly saying the same thing

[Catmandu]

Did you enjoy the game or are you still punishing the players and administration by not attending? :rolleyes:

how could anyone enjoy the game?:)

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

how could anyone enjoy the game?:)

I've enjoyed many Bearcat games that were L. Not as much as those that were W.

[nolte50uc]

You know this thread is horrible. I would like to archive all the negative comments regarding Cronin and bring them back out in two years.

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

For the benefit of everyone on this board, please, please, go over to the Mountaineer board. Or maybe even better, create your own Huggins forum and talk about him all you want.

I should be comparing the current status to the Badger or Yates era.

That's where 12-21 belongs.

[SLMadiCat]

I should be comparing the current status to the Badger or Yates era.

That's where 12-21 belongs.

Do you need a link to help you out?

[Catmandu]

".....and we're out there with a lot of freshmen and no Jamual Warren and no Mike Williams."

I know its true and factual but it really bothered me when reading the article. Excuses should be for private moments and in your own brain. I would argue they don't do much good there either.


this is getting a little funny, and I don't know how anyone will defend this... but first he MAKES excuses like the qoute above....

then he says this..

"I just told my players that I've had enough of that," Cronin said. "Excuses are for losers."

this is exactly what I was talking about, he showed them how to make excuses, and now he's telling THEM not to do it, "Do what I say not what I do"?

Again, I have no problem with him saying "we're bad on defense", "Nobody was playing defense".... but again it's the making excuses that's not a sign of good leadership.

[SLMadiCat]

this is getting a little funny, and I don't know how anyone will defend this... but first he MAKES excuses like the qoute above....

then he says this..

"I just told my players that I've had enough of that," Cronin said. "Excuses are for losers."

this is exactly what I was talking about, he showed them how to make excuses, and now he's telling THEN not to do it, "Do what I say not what I do"?

Again, I have no problem with him saying "we're bad on defense", "Nobody was playing defense".... but again it's the making excuses that's not a sign of good leadership.

How come "we're bad on defense" and "Nobody was playing defense" isn't an excuse?

You really have no idea what Mick is saying to his team in the locker room. What he says to the press is inconsequential to his team. ****, most of the time the press doesn't put the full quotes in anyway, not to mention they don't offer the question that was asked to him. There are times to critique a coach, and Mick has deserved some criticism, but you're nitpicking here.

Don't forget who Mick learned from (two coaches). He has seen this all before. I'm sure he does some stuff to light a fire up some people's you know what.

[Cats4Ever]

MT hit a home run with his hiring of Coach Kelly, and it is looking like mick at a guaranteed $xxx,xxx is not getting it done.

A good coach CAN make a difference in less than one year. I think Andy KEnnedy in his first year as a head coach did an outstanding job. Yes, I know he had a lot of seniors. But he coached his tail off.

Mick on the other hand, he is probably going to be around for 2 more years, recruiting good players, then we will get a good coach in here.

Man that's a long time to suffer from the BOT decision to out a former coach.

[SLMadiCat]

MT hit a home run with his hiring of Coach Kelly, and it is looking like mick at a guaranteed $xxx,xxx is not getting it done.

A good coach CAN make a difference in less than one year. I think Andy KEnnedy in his first year as a head coach did an outstanding job. Yes, I know he had a lot of seniors. But he coached his tail off.

Mick on the other hand, he is probably going to be around for 2 more years, recruiting good players, then we will get a good coach in here.

Man that's a long time to suffer from the BOT decision to out a former coach.

Wow. I'm leaving this one alone. It's way too easy.

[Catmandu]

How come "we're bad on defense" and "Nobody was playing defense" is an excuse?

You really have no idea what Mick is saying to his team in the locker room. What he says to the press is inconsequential to his team. ****, most of the time the press doesn't put the full quotes in anyway, not to mention they don't offer the question that was asked to him. There are times to critique a coach, and Mick has deserved some criticism, but you're nitpicking here.

Don't forget who Mick learned from (two coaches). He has seen this all before. I'm sure he does some stuff to light a fire up some people's you know what.


let me qoute you "Re-read my post and maybe you'll understand" I said that wasn't an excuse.... and I qouted Mick from the paper... i didn't say anything about what he says in the locker room, I am only talking about what he said in the paper and never implied anything else..."

[SLMadiCat]

let me qoute you "Re-read my post and maybe you'll understand" I said that wasn't an excuse.... and I qouted Mick from the paper... i didn't say anything about what he says in the locker room, I am only talking about what he said in the paper and never implied anything else..."

That was meant to say how come it ISN'T an excuse?

[Bearcat Fan Since 1958]

MT hit a home run with his hiring of Coach Kelly, and it is looking like mick at a guaranteed $xxx,xxx is not getting it done.

A good coach CAN make a difference in less than one year. I think Andy KEnnedy in his first year as a head coach did an outstanding job. Yes, I know he had a lot of seniors. But he coached his tail off.

Mick on the other hand, he is probably going to be around for 2 more years, recruiting good players, then we will get a good coach in here.

Man that's a long time to suffer from the BOT decision to out a former coach.

AK did an outstanding job at Ole Miss last year, too. A rising star in the coaching profession. And he's back home in Mississippi, too.

[Nator]

I started this thread and truly apologize for it. I never intended for it to be a cronin - huggins comparison. I was upset after what I deemed an unacceptable loss and was disappointed that Mick didn't say things that made me feel better or at least express that he thought the loss was unacceptable as well.

I did read back and noticed that Huggins was brought into this argument buy a Huggs hating comment. The pro-huggins faction was baited out...not by me...well at least not intentionally.