WVU out, Boise in for 2012 - tentative

[CaptainProbasco]

The internets are full of this report, but here's the link from the Idaho Statesman:

"The Big East and West Virginia are finalizing their terms of separation. Published reports indicate the Mountaineers’ exit will cost $20 million — with West Virginia’s new league, the Big 12, kicking in $9 million of that total."

Some other reports have said that WVU will also have to forfeit all conference revenues for this year (their football revenue was supposedly already withheld from them). Also, WVU will also have to pay the increase in Boise's withdrawl fee from the MWC, which according to this piece is $7.5-$9 million (not sure what their initial withdrawl fee was supposed to be).

However, even if it's "only" $20 million, that's a hefty chunk of change.

[GoUC11]

Looks like we're going to see the blue turf. That will probably be a great trip if UC organizes one

[cafemerald]

The title is very misleading. BSU being in for 2012 isn't 'tentative', it is purely speculation by a sports writer. And speculation by some schlub means diddly squat to me.

Please be more considerate with your wording next time.

I do like the numbers of WVU's exit fee which seem to have foundation. So I will give you props on that.

[Thegreatone]

Originally Posted by cafemerald

The title is very misleading. BSU being in for 2012 isn't 'tentative', it is purely speculation by a sports writer. And speculation by some schlub means diddly squat to me.

Please be more considerate with your wording next time.

I do like the numbers of WVU's exit fee which seem to have foundation. So I will give you props on that.

A little more than speculation.

Boise has reached out and been granted permission to move all other sports to WAC. They have started the process of moving.

Big East would not have settled without a plan of who was replacing WVU. Expect Boise.

[swilsonsp4]

While BSU to the BE in 2012 would solve our scheduling problems, it wouldn't do much for the MWC at this late date. They'd now be thrust into the same situation we thought we'd have to endure, only worse. The scheduling deadline is well beyond normal and there aren't that many schools out West. They'd all have to try to find FCS foes from farther away.

I realize that that isn't our problem, but it's a potential sticking point, if the WMC balks. BSU didn't exactly hang around long enough in that conference to develop many friendships. They beat everyone up in football for a season, then bolt.

[CaptainProbasco]

WVU, Big East reach conditional settlement - from the Charleston Daily Mail

"Sources told the Daily Mail Wednesday WVU was nearly finished negotiating an agreement in which the university would pay a "cash settlement" of $11 million to complete its exit from the Big East to the Big 12 Conference this year.

On Thursday, a source close to the negotiations said the additional $9 million would come in the form of contributions from other Big 12 member schools.

WVU's $11 million payment would cover three things: The Big East's $5 million exit fee, Boise State's $5 million buyout fee, and $1 million to match what each Big 12 school is paying. That would raise the total value of the settlement to $20 million. "

[BearCatMarcher]

Originally Posted by CaptainProbasco

WVU, Big East reach conditional settlement - from the Charleston Daily Mail

"Sources told the Daily Mail Wednesday WVU was nearly finished negotiating an agreement in which the university would pay a "cash settlement" of $11 million to complete its exit from the Big East to the Big 12 Conference this year.

On Thursday, a source close to the negotiations said the additional $9 million would come in the form of contributions from other Big 12 member schools.

WVU's $11 million payment would cover three things: The Big East's $5 million exit fee, Boise State's $5 million buyout fee, and $1 million to match what each Big 12 school is paying. That would raise the total value of the settlement to $20 million. "

Thus proving that anyone and anything can be bought.

[cafemerald]

Originally Posted by Thegreatone

A little more than speculation.

Boise has reached out and been granted permission to move all other sports to WAC. They have started the process of moving.

Big East would not have settled without a plan of who was replacing WVU. Expect Boise.

This is pretty much the definition of speculation.

Can you show me a link where any source within Boise mentioned playing football in the Big East in 2012? I can show you one that states the opposite.

Anything other than a source tied to Boise stating that the Broncos will (atleast possibly) play in the Big East in 2012 is speculation. That is what this is. Speculation.

[1977 BearCat]

Originally Posted by GoUC11

Looks like we're going to see the blue turf. That will probably be a great trip if UC organizes one

If Boise does indeed join, both Pitt and Syracuse need to get to pay for a trip to Idaho.

[ME80]

Originally Posted by cafemerald

This is pretty much the definition of speculation.

Can you show me a link where any source within Boise mentioned playing football in the Big East in 2012? I can show you one that states the opposite.

Anything other than a source tied to Boise stating that the Broncos will (atleast possibly) play in the Big East in 2012 is speculation. That is what this is. Speculation.

I think the whole story is more important and interesting that the definition of tentative or speculation.

[CaptainProbasco]

Originally Posted by 1977 BearCat

If Boise does indeed join, both Pitt and Syracuse need to get to pay for a trip to Idaho.

I agree. But if Boise is just filling in for WVU, they might just get WVU's schedule. Which would mean visits from Syracuse, Rutgers, USF, and UC.

If I was in charge, I'd change the schedules to make sure that Pitt and Syracuse get 4 away games this year, including a trip to Boise.

[RedRocker]

Originally Posted by CaptainProbasco

I agree. But if Boise is just filling in for WVU, they might just get WVU's schedule. Which would mean visits from Syracuse, Rutgers, USF, and UC.

If I was in charge, I'd change the schedules to make sure that Pitt and Syracuse get 4 away games this year, including a trip to Boise.

Especially when you consider that they both will want to leave after 2012-2013 season since the other schools are coming in using the WVU case as a precedent.

[RedRocker]

Buh bye. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

I will however miss all the couch burnin' talk. I guess we'll have to look to our neighbors to the south in Lexington for that kind of entertainment now.

[cincycpaw]

We need to get out of the big east.

[Brian H.]

Originally Posted by cincycpaw

We need to get out of the big east.

Unless big donor money is coming in to do that I think we are best to stay where we are. We are already near the bottom of the BEast in athletic budget, if we move to the ACC or the Big 12 we would be so far behind it wouldn't be funny.

[Carin's Dad]

So how is the money split up? Shouldn't the football schools get a bigger share?

[RedRocker]

Originally Posted by Carin's Dad

So how is the money split up? Shouldn't the football schools get a bigger share?

I'm sure it's going into the conference coffers. Doubt any of the schools will see any of the money. The big key is going to be the new TV contract possibly with NBC SN.

EDIT: Looks like UC is getting some of the $$$. Hopefully, they divide it up fairly with the FB schools receiving a larger chunk.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2012/...tlement-money/

[GoCats1994]

Originally Posted by Carin's Dad

So how is the money split up? Shouldn't the football schools get a bigger share?

One could argue the non-football schools are not impacted by this at all.

The biggest tangible impact involved football scheduling. In an already undersized league, the departure of WVU puts a strain on all remaining schools to find replacement games.

It's hard to make the same argument for the other sports being impacted. Basketball schedules will remain more or less the same. Total number of league games will remain unchanged next year...and the exact times/dates aren't known yet anyway. Most other sports don't play full Big East schedules, so the exit of one school is not a huge deal. (Example - UC's track/cross country will still run against Xavier, Miami, Dayton, Ohio U, etc... WVU leaving has little impact here)