NY Daily NBE TV deal with NBC (hopefully)

True Bearcat · 08-03-2012, 04:04 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/co...icle-1.1127668

Pray to your gods, hope this comes to fruition.

BearCatMarcher · 08-03-2012, 05:17 PM

Mixed feelings on NBC after this Olympics disaster they wrought :|

Dannyboy · 08-04-2012, 12:54 PM

That NBC deal would be tremendous. I would take less money in exchange for that kind of exposure. Playing on NBC on Saturday > Playing on ESPNU at noon/on Thursday.

GoUC11 · 08-04-2012, 06:06 PM

I don't think the Big East will (and pray that they don't) but I expect ESPN to actually make a decent push to retain the Big East by offering something close to the ACC.

Deep down ESPN knows we have a much more potent football conference than the ACC and the ACC is essentially where Ground Zero lies for the next round of musical chairs (FSU and Clemson are one foot out the door. Just waiting on the nitty gritty of the playoff).

And the last thing ESPN wants is NBC to actually have programming. The Big East leaving has the potential to let the floodgates open for other, smaller conferences leaving and forming an alliance with NBC (think A10 in basketball. Despite what we say now, the A10 is going to be the real deal with games people will want to see).

I expect ESPN to make a decent push to keep the Big East if only to keep NBC on life support.

And even at that don't be surprised if there is some arrangement to where we still play thursday nights on ESPN or something to that sort.

If we get $14 mill per full Big East member say hello to a 40,000 seat Nippert and an immaculate new Shoe.

1977 BearCat · 08-04-2012, 06:56 PM

That kind of money and exposure would be a home run!

coach · 08-04-2012, 08:58 PM

that's a big reason you can pull a boise st(and maybe others in). you can talk all you want about geography, but money talks if your not already part of the party.

Brooklyn Bearcat · 08-06-2012, 09:19 AM

I think that this would be a really good thing for the BE as well as NBC. NBC has done a really great job with its largest seasonal properties, those being the NHL and MLS. I know that the amount of eyeballs for those two leagues is not as robust as that of other major sports leagues, but NBC really puts a great production together for those leagues, with excellent game presentation, pre and post-game, and terrific analysis. I would imagine that the Big East would get the same sort of attention and NBC will prioritize it by plugging it on its satellite networks. I know that the Olympics has had its share of glitches, but that's a tough thing to get totally right, with all of the multiple events and timezone complications messing with presentation.
The other wild card to consider is Notre Dame's existing partnership with NBC. A big reason why ND has refused to join a conference for football thus far has been the fact that conference affiliation would mean that the Irish could not continue with NBC, since conferences have their own television contracts, mainly with ESPN and its regional subsidiaries. Needless to say, the exclusive programming rights that ND has with NBC is very lucrative and not worth forfeiting. But, maybe with the Big East now in the fold at NBC, Notre Dame might feel compelled to join the conference in football as well? I cannot stand Notre Dame, and would not care if the whole university burned in Hades. But, there is no denying ND's value to the Big East, and perhaps a deal with NBC can entice Notre Dame to join the conference (even if the other schools have to eat some crow and let ND maintain some of its autonomy in terms of scheduling and financial compensation).
Either way, a good deal for the Big East if this happens. NBC needs college football and the Big East has a large footprint and reaches a lot of major markets. NBC sees the value in this and will pay up for it.

Thegreatone · 08-06-2012, 10:04 AM

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Interim commissioner was on 700 WLW with Dan Hoard on Sunday discussing the future of the Big East. He said the Big East TV deal was going well and he believes it could exceed ACC package. it was not mentioned if he was talking about per team or as a lump (Big East has more teams to split the $$$ with than ACC).

I have been following this closely and here are some notes and predictions:

- ESPN has until Oct 1st to negotiate a TV deal with the Big East. No other networks can make an offer until that point. The Big East did hear what NBC and other networks had to say about how they would present the big east in earleir meetings.

- I think ESPN would offer about 13-15 million per year to FOOTBALL playing teams. ACC currently gets 17 per team.

- This amount of money would put the Big East way above all the mid majors and close to the other BCS conferences.

- I don't think that is good enough for the Big East. The deal breaker will be if ESPN decides to put the Big East Champ in the Orange Bowl. If they do, we will stay with ESPN.

- If ESPN doesnt put us into a former BCS game I think we go to NBC. I believe the offer would be around 14-17 million per team.

- I also think the Big East/NBC would create its own bowl game. I think NBC would make the payout significant. Have "Football Night in America" crew do the pregame. Offer the Big 10 #2 or the Big XII #2 to participate.

- You put that game as close to the Orange Bowl as you can. You directly compete because NBC would make it the biggest college football game of their year and the Orange Bowl is the lowest priority of the major bowls to ESPN. You could do major damage to the ACC and Orange Bowl.

Why would NBC make such a big offer?

- The Big East brings the biggest markets and TV sets of all the major conferences and it isnt close. More than Big 10, SEC or Big XII.

- While they may not be the dominate team in the area they create interest. For example, USF may not be the "it" team in Florida or Tampa even but there will be significant interest and TV sets on. How many OSU fans keep an eye on UC games? A ton. IF SMU has a great year the entire state of Texas will watch.

- NBC could put college football on their network (NBC, MSNBC is rumored, and of coarse NBC Sports) from noon until midnight with the widespread national members.

No matter what people say, most people only care about regional teams, their conference or top 10 games. Pac 12 might be much better conference but who watches any Pac 12 games outside of USC? **** most do not watch SEC games outside the top 10. It just so happens they have a ton of top 10 teams ha.

Should be very interesting.

sbcat84 · 08-06-2012, 10:29 AM

Good Stuff. What I Find Interesting Is That This Issue Could Easily Stretch On Thru The Football Season. Off Season Issues Are Becoming Year Round These Days.

98bearcat · 08-06-2012, 03:01 PM

Agree with the analysis that Big East teams can get near 17mill per from NBC. The pac-12 deal that Mr. Scott was able to get with ESPN proves it, because at the end of the day he pushed the size of the media market and its value, not how many bowls his conference won or any of that jazz. Its about the number of television sets you can bring to the table and the future potential growth in the amount of those televisions, and as stated above NO other conference includes as many televisions as all the markets represented by the new B-EAST.

#41 · 08-10-2012, 02:30 AM

If you freeze-out ESPN and offer programming to their direct competitor instead, you've gotta be prepared for the backlash in coverage that comes with it.

98bearcat · 08-10-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by #41

If you freeze-out ESPN and offer programming to their direct competitor instead, you've gotta be prepared for the backlash in coverage that comes with it.

What backlash? You mean the same treatment ESPN has given the big east for years, because only thing worse they could do now is to not even mention the Big Easts existence anymore... wait, they basically do that already too!... Good luck during Basketball season not mention the Big East at all.

blackattack · 08-10-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 98bearcat

What backlash? You mean the same treatment ESPN has given the big east for years, because only thing worse they could do now is to not even mention the Big Easts existence anymore... wait, they basically do that already too!... Good luck during Basketball season not mention the Big East at all.

Agree 100%. ESPN engineered the breakup of the Big East thinking the conference would die and shrink into irrelevance. Now they're faced with the awkward prospect of a new Big East with football programs like Boise and Louisville threatening to be perennial top 15 programs. If the Big East casts their lot with NBC, it will be ESPN that has egg on their face. And if ESPN is run like most corporations, somebody high on the food chain there will be shown the door.

coach · 08-10-2012, 03:59 PM

it will be interesting to see what happens the next several years as i understand fox is supposed to launch a new sports network to compete directly(internationally)against espn. not sure where it stands, but basically at the time fox news, etc. was launched cnn was the big players. table now has been turned. we shall see.........but more comp. usually bodes well for those with content, ie schools and teams.

Thegreatone · 08-10-2012, 04:09 PM

If NBC gets the Big East they will directly compete with the ACC and ESPN.

08-03-2012, 04:04 PM	#1
True Bearcat Member Join Date: Jun 2010	NY Daily NBE TV deal with NBC (hopefully) http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/co...icle-1.1127668 Pray to your gods, hope this comes to fruition.

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#41 Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2009	If you freeze-out ESPN and offer programming to their direct competitor instead, you've gotta be prepared for the backlash in coverage that comes with it. __________________ #41 You can give it a patriotic name, but it still sucks.

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08-03-2012, 05:17 PM	#2
BearCatMarcher Veteran Join Date: Dec 2010	Mixed feelings on NBC after this Olympics disaster they wrought :\|

08-04-2012, 12:54 PM	#3
Dannyboy Veteran Join Date: Oct 2009	That NBC deal would be tremendous. I would take less money in exchange for that kind of exposure. Playing on NBC on Saturday > Playing on ESPNU at noon/on Thursday.

08-04-2012, 06:06 PM	#4
GoUC11 Member Join Date: Oct 2010	I don't think the Big East will (and pray that they don't) but I expect ESPN to actually make a decent push to retain the Big East by offering something close to the ACC. Deep down ESPN knows we have a much more potent football conference than the ACC and the ACC is essentially where Ground Zero lies for the next round of musical chairs (FSU and Clemson are one foot out the door. Just waiting on the nitty gritty of the playoff). And the last thing ESPN wants is NBC to actually have programming. The Big East leaving has the potential to let the floodgates open for other, smaller conferences leaving and forming an alliance with NBC (think A10 in basketball. Despite what we say now, the A10 is going to be the real deal with games people will want to see). I expect ESPN to make a decent push to keep the Big East if only to keep NBC on life support. And even at that don't be surprised if there is some arrangement to where we still play thursday nights on ESPN or something to that sort. If we get $14 mill per full Big East member say hello to a 40,000 seat Nippert and an immaculate new Shoe.

08-04-2012, 06:56 PM	#5
1977 BearCat Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murphy, Texas	That kind of money and exposure would be a home run!

08-04-2012, 08:58 PM	#6
coach Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008	that's a big reason you can pull a boise st(and maybe others in). you can talk all you want about geography, but money talks if your not already part of the party.

08-06-2012, 09:19 AM	#7
Brooklyn Bearcat Member Join Date: Dec 2008	I think that this would be a really good thing for the BE as well as NBC. NBC has done a really great job with its largest seasonal properties, those being the NHL and MLS. I know that the amount of eyeballs for those two leagues is not as robust as that of other major sports leagues, but NBC really puts a great production together for those leagues, with excellent game presentation, pre and post-game, and terrific analysis. I would imagine that the Big East would get the same sort of attention and NBC will prioritize it by plugging it on its satellite networks. I know that the Olympics has had its share of glitches, but that's a tough thing to get totally right, with all of the multiple events and timezone complications messing with presentation. The other wild card to consider is Notre Dame's existing partnership with NBC. A big reason why ND has refused to join a conference for football thus far has been the fact that conference affiliation would mean that the Irish could not continue with NBC, since conferences have their own television contracts, mainly with ESPN and its regional subsidiaries. Needless to say, the exclusive programming rights that ND has with NBC is very lucrative and not worth forfeiting. But, maybe with the Big East now in the fold at NBC, Notre Dame might feel compelled to join the conference in football as well? I cannot stand Notre Dame, and would not care if the whole university burned in Hades. But, there is no denying ND's value to the Big East, and perhaps a deal with NBC can entice Notre Dame to join the conference (even if the other schools have to eat some crow and let ND maintain some of its autonomy in terms of scheduling and financial compensation). Either way, a good deal for the Big East if this happens. NBC needs college football and the Big East has a large footprint and reaches a lot of major markets. NBC sees the value in this and will pay up for it.

08-06-2012, 10:04 AM	#8
Thegreatone Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007	-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interim commissioner was on 700 WLW with Dan Hoard on Sunday discussing the future of the Big East. He said the Big East TV deal was going well and he believes it could exceed ACC package. it was not mentioned if he was talking about per team or as a lump (Big East has more teams to split the $$$ with than ACC). I have been following this closely and here are some notes and predictions: - ESPN has until Oct 1st to negotiate a TV deal with the Big East. No other networks can make an offer until that point. The Big East did hear what NBC and other networks had to say about how they would present the big east in earleir meetings. - I think ESPN would offer about 13-15 million per year to FOOTBALL playing teams. ACC currently gets 17 per team. - This amount of money would put the Big East way above all the mid majors and close to the other BCS conferences. - I don't think that is good enough for the Big East. The deal breaker will be if ESPN decides to put the Big East Champ in the Orange Bowl. If they do, we will stay with ESPN. - If ESPN doesnt put us into a former BCS game I think we go to NBC. I believe the offer would be around 14-17 million per team. - I also think the Big East/NBC would create its own bowl game. I think NBC would make the payout significant. Have "Football Night in America" crew do the pregame. Offer the Big 10 #2 or the Big XII #2 to participate. - You put that game as close to the Orange Bowl as you can. You directly compete because NBC would make it the biggest college football game of their year and the Orange Bowl is the lowest priority of the major bowls to ESPN. You could do major damage to the ACC and Orange Bowl. Why would NBC make such a big offer? - The Big East brings the biggest markets and TV sets of all the major conferences and it isnt close. More than Big 10, SEC or Big XII. - While they may not be the dominate team in the area they create interest. For example, USF may not be the "it" team in Florida or Tampa even but there will be significant interest and TV sets on. How many OSU fans keep an eye on UC games? A ton. IF SMU has a great year the entire state of Texas will watch. - NBC could put college football on their network (NBC, MSNBC is rumored, and of coarse NBC Sports) from noon until midnight with the widespread national members. No matter what people say, most people only care about regional teams, their conference or top 10 games. Pac 12 might be much better conference but who watches any Pac 12 games outside of USC? **** most do not watch SEC games outside the top 10. It just so happens they have a ton of top 10 teams ha. Should be very interesting.

08-06-2012, 10:29 AM	#9
sbcat84 Member Join Date: Nov 2008	Good Stuff. What I Find Interesting Is That This Issue Could Easily Stretch On Thru The Football Season. Off Season Issues Are Becoming Year Round These Days.

08-06-2012, 03:01 PM	#10
98bearcat Member Join Date: Feb 2012	Agree with the analysis that Big East teams can get near 17mill per from NBC. The pac-12 deal that Mr. Scott was able to get with ESPN proves it, because at the end of the day he pushed the size of the media market and its value, not how many bowls his conference won or any of that jazz. Its about the number of television sets you can bring to the table and the future potential growth in the amount of those televisions, and as stated above NO other conference includes as many televisions as all the markets represented by the new B-EAST.

08-10-2012, 03:59 PM	#14
coach Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008	it will be interesting to see what happens the next several years as i understand fox is supposed to launch a new sports network to compete directly(internationally)against espn. not sure where it stands, but basically at the time fox news, etc. was launched cnn was the big players. table now has been turned. we shall see.........but more comp. usually bodes well for those with content, ie schools and teams.

08-10-2012, 04:09 PM	#15
Thegreatone Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007	If NBC gets the Big East they will directly compete with the ACC and ESPN.