OSU Spring Game in Cincy

[2kirkalypse]

Originally Posted by Bearcat Chris

Wrong.... PBS is owned by the taxpayers of Hamilton County. Mike Brown is the leasee. UC thus has much more "ownership" to the stadium, via all the $$ its employees and students pay in sales tax, than people in Columbus; who contribute zero, nata, nothing!

B.C.

ummm, wrong. never said that the Bengals owned the stadium and who knows what OSU is even paying hamilton county to use it. the fact is neither team has any "ownership" claim to PBS and if someone is willing to come in and pay to use it, the residents of hamilton county should be more than happy to allow it since everyone seems so worried about what the stadium cost.

if you dont like it, dont go

[Bearcat Chris]

Originally Posted by 2kirkalypse

ummm, wrong. never said that the Bengals owned the stadium and who knows what OSU is even paying hamilton county to use it. the fact is neither team has any "ownership" claim to PBS and if someone is willing to come in and pay to use it, the residents of hamilton county should be more than happy to allow it since everyone seems so worried about what the stadium cost.

if you dont like it, dont go

Mike Brown keeps all the $$, and I wouldn't go to that game "if it were the last FB game ever to be played, in the history of college sports!".

B.C. (over and out!)

[BearCatMarcher]

Originally Posted by SaintMartin

Now is the time for Hamilton, Clermont, Warren, Butler, Kenton, Boone, and Campbell Counties to secede from their states and form the State of Cincinnati.

I'm not joking.

New Delaware?

[JBev44]

Originally Posted by Bearcat Chris

Mike Brown keeps all the $$, and I wouldn't go to that game "if it were the last FB game ever to be played, in the history of college sports!".

B.C. (over and out!)

I hate the idea of thousands of buckeye fans staking claim to our city for a day as much as the next guy, but can we agree that Mike Brown doesn't own every hotel, restaurant, gas station, bar, etc. in the city and therefore doesn't keep all the $$. Money for the game itself - yes. Every single dollar spent while all those clowns are in town - no.

[Alpha5]

You`ll have to forgive me, but I don't see how "Buckeye day" in the city of Cincinnati is anything but bad for UC athletics. Its a slap to the face and in any other state it would be the cause of a riot and a PR nightmare for Mike Brown.

Its smart for O$U, there's a reason they picked Cincinnati and not Cleveland with is 95% Buckeye already.

[Bearcat1996]

Originally Posted by Alpha5

You`ll have to forgive me, but I don't see how "Buckeye day" in the city of Cincinnati is anything but bad for UC athletics. Its a slap to the face and in any other state it would be the cause of a riot and a PR nightmare for Mike Brown.

Its smart for O$U, there's a reason they picked Cincinnati and not Cleveland with is 95% Buckeye already.

Agree. There is so much history and bad blood between the two schools, which makes this a bad idea and bad for the city. Mike Brown is the only person in the city who would benefit. Does he really understand this may rile the majority of his fan base? My guess is he isn't that bright.

Osu won't play us in basketball on a regular basis and they will not play us in football (even at a neutral site in the city!). They don't deserve to use Hamilton County taxpayer funded facilities for their benefit.

I say put pressure on Mike Brown. Another reason not to support the bungles!

[Bearcat1996]

Originally Posted by 2kirkalypse

ummm, wrong. never said that the Bengals owned the stadium and who knows what OSU is even paying hamilton county to use it. the fact is neither team has any "ownership" claim to PBS and if someone is willing to come in and pay to use it, the residents of hamilton county should be more than happy to allow it since everyone seems so worried about what the stadium cost.

if you dont like it, dont go

Mike Brown is the only one who benefits from this game. It does nothing to help taxpayers. My taxes will not go down because of this game.

[Bearcat1996]

Originally Posted by bcatsandbucks10

It's so sad that people in Cincinnati are upset about this.

This will do wonders for the city. Why not let all the people from Columbus/Cleveland/rural Ohio come in to Cincinnati, book up surrounding hotels for a night, and pack the Banks and downtown's restaurants and bars for a weekend?

In reality, this does not affect UC at all. Period. If anything, this will hurt OSU's recruiting a bit because the Spring Game is a chance to bring dozens of recruits to campus.

Can someone please explain the beef with this idea to me?

Explanation: most Cincinnati residents (taxpayers who funded the stadium) do not care for osu.

[Binturong05]

Originally Posted by bcatsandbucks10

It's so sad that people in Cincinnati are upset about this.

This will do wonders for the city. Why not let all the people from Columbus/Cleveland/rural Ohio come in to Cincinnati, book up surrounding hotels for a night, and pack the Banks and downtown's restaurants and bars for a weekend?

In reality, this does not affect UC at all. Period. If anything, this will hurt OSU's recruiting a bit because the Spring Game is a chance to bring dozens of recruits to campus.

Can someone please explain the beef with this idea to me?

Exactly. I detest the bourgeois attitude of Ohio State homers as much as anyone but I see very little wrong with these fanatics coming down to Cincinnati and spending their money in my hometown.

I had an experience similar to the sentiment being expressed in this thread while at the Tigers-Reds series a few weeks ago. I'm there courtesy of a business associate 'cause god knows I can't afford tickets 4 rows behind the Reds dugout but evidently a few true Detroit fans could and they came en masse to support their team. A group of four twenty or thirtysomething guys who were pounding 24 ouncers all game and were irreverent after about the fifth inning started yelling out insults to Tiger fans in the eighth inning after it became clear the Reds were going to lose the game. It got to the point where I, as a Reds fan, became embarassed and leaned forward to the family in front of me who had Detroit gear on and informed them those jackoffs didn't speak for all of us Cincinnati fans.

Here we had three days of sell outs at Great American Ballpark and according to Brenaman the highest attendance on any day other than an Opening Day courtesy of Detroit fans and a group of knuckleheads takes it upon themselves to surely drive away more than a few fans, leave a blackeye on the Reds fanbase, and see to it that the City of Cincinnati loses out on a few sales tax and hospitality tax dollars as well as parking fees etc. in the future as probably a dozen families think twice about visiting Cincinnati for anything in future. This is the kind of behavior we hear Bengals fans experience in Pittsburgh. Are we not better than this, Cincinnati fans?

[BearCatMarcher]

Originally Posted by Binturong05

takes it upon themselves to surely drive away more than a few fans,

So if I go down with a group of pals to the OSU spring thing and heckle them for 4 solid quarters, they won't come back?

That's what I got from that post, and it's a great idea

[bcbearcat12]

Originally Posted by BearCatMarcher

So if I go down with a group of pals to the OSU spring thing and heckle them for 4 solid quarters, they won't come back?

That's what I got from that post, and it's a great idea

Prob wouldn't be too hard to pull off something epic...I hope.the Greek houses are scheming as we speak

[bearcatd]

If their scheme involves going to the Bearcat Bowl, I'm all for it. If we, as UC Alums/fans make a big deal about OSU coming to Cincy, it becomes a big deal. If we ignore it, mind our own business, and show up in record numbers for UC events, UC looks a lot better. OSU has generations and generations of fans and tradition. We're not going to compete with their attendance numbers and, frankly, having an influx of 70,000 (maybe 45,000 traveling into town) for the spring game for a weekend is good for the region. I think welcome to Bearcat Territory billboards throughout the area would be appropriate (especially coming down 71 starting around Wilmington or so). Otherwise, going down in Bearcat gear and taunting seems desperate and is immature, especially if we don't show up for our spring game (not to mention regular season games). I'm hoping moving to semesters will at least get students to the early regular season games. Anything desperate just gives them ammo to treat us like the little brother. Instead of acting like the little brother, and saying "it's not fair, OSU got a bigger bowl of ice cream then I", we should just ignore them and accept that we've got something good here too.

[BearCatMarcher]

Originally Posted by bearcatd

"it's not fair, OSU got a bigger bowl of ice cream then I", we should just ignore them and accept that we've got something good here too.

They didn't get a bigger bowl of ice cream, they got my ice cream.

[longtimefan]

I just got a chance to follow the talking heads link on this. The two Columbus guys showed just what type of arrogant b@stards those people are. No, I do not want them here.

[GoUC11]

Originally Posted by bearcatd

If their scheme involves going to the Bearcat Bowl, I'm all for it. If we, as UC Alums/fans make a big deal about OSU coming to Cincy, it becomes a big deal. If we ignore it, mind our own business, and show up in record numbers for UC events, UC looks a lot better. OSU has generations and generations of fans and tradition. We're not going to compete with their attendance numbers and, frankly, having an influx of 70,000 (maybe 45,000 traveling into town) for the spring game for a weekend is good for the region. I think welcome to Bearcat Territory billboards throughout the area would be appropriate (especially coming down 71 starting around Wilmington or so). Otherwise, going down in Bearcat gear and taunting seems desperate and is immature, especially if we don't show up for our spring game (not to mention regular season games). I'm hoping moving to semesters will at least get students to the early regular season games. Anything desperate just gives them ammo to treat us like the little brother. Instead of acting like the little brother, and saying "it's not fair, OSU got a bigger bowl of ice cream then I", we should just ignore them and accept that we've got something good here too.

I agree with pretty much everything you said.

The thing about the students is even on a quarter system they have sold out their seats every game dating back to 2009 (I think). Students will come in droves. Don't worry about them.
I'm biased (obviously being a recent alum) but I put our students up with any other students in the country. Go to any night game at Nippert or prime time basketball game and you'll see them out in force.

Rick Pitino's comments about our fans was epic and the best compliment we as a fan based have received in a long time.

[Brooklyn Bearcat]

Fundamentally, I'm opposed to this because it's a slap in the face that OSU will not play UC in the city of Cincinnati, be it in basketball or in football. Also, with no major college sports in Cleveland, it will always seem to Cincinnatians that anything that OSU does, that has anything to do with Cincinnati, is an insult.
That said, the fact remains that even in these heady times, folks in Cincy are not falling over themselves to support Bearcat football.
The same people complaining about this OSU Spring game being played downtown are the same people who will complain about Nippert Stadium as a reason for not going to UC games.
As much as it smarts of being yet another smug insult handed down by OSU, why don't we worry about our OWN Spring Game? How many people will attend that? Fact is, the folks from Columbus are not going to make a huge occupation of this. They'll go to the spring game and then go home. So, it's not like this will be a huge boon for the city.
But, let's have a little respect ourselves, shall we? Like it or not, OSU has a steep, steep sense of pride and tradition, part of which is its spring game. That sense of pride and tradition is much less insulting to UC football than Cincinnati's traditional sense of apathy towards its own local program.
Get on the soapbox all you want about this. The only thing that makes it so unpalatable is the fact that they will not play us on equal terms. That said, I am sure that the city of Cincinnati and the University would LOVE for UC to be having its Spring Game downtown and for PBS to be used for ALL UC home games out of necessity of overwhelming demand, not as an ultimately failed experiment, to see if the odd "higher profile" game would draw well enough (they did not).
So, cry your heart out over this, but don't forget to look yourself in the mirror, and your fellow UC fans, and your beloved football program in the face and say "this should be for US. Let's make it happen. Let's give OSU NO CHOICE but to play us here in our city, and let's make ourselves worthy year after year. Let's bring OUR spring game downtown".
Because, if you're going to turn a gripe with OSU into just another thing to complain about, well then you're better off stopping with the excuses and simply getting out there and supporting the Bearcats more (and get OTHER people to as well). Let it be US that has a great Spring Game because our program warrants it. Then all of this OSU nonsense will not even matter. Let this be the final wakeup call for UC fans, and while we're at it have a little appreciation for the program whose status we would like to have, and help that other school keep a good tradition going.

[CaptainProbasco]

Originally Posted by SaintMartin

Now is the time for Hamilton, Clermont, Warren, Butler, Kenton, Boone, and Campbell Counties to secede from their states and form the State of Cincinnati.

I'm not joking.

How long are we going to continue to send our tax dollars out of our region to Columbus and Frankfort? Those cities have nothing to do with Cincinnati and take every opportunity they can to bring us down.

I've been saying this for years. I'd throw in Brown, Dearborn, Franklin, Ohio, and Ripley counties as well.

[DMoney1080]

Honestly, don't think much of it. Look Urban knows what he is doing - he's putting that team up North's fans and culture and trying to use it as a recruiting tool. Sure, he might be one or two more recruits and they might be the 4-5 star recruits but honestly, is that any different than what it is today?

I am from Cbus, and I think this will backfire. Personally, from what I've heard from the fans up North and south of Michigan, they do not like the idea of playing away from Cbus. That and the fact that the stadium holds less than what the horseshoe does today, it doesn't make much sense.

If you have a problem with it, support your Bearcats. Say you were one of the ones, that came to rain or shine to watch (FOR FREE) college kids play their butt off even if it's just a spring game. Build the atmosphere that team up north has and stop complaining. Having been to the past 4 spring games (yes, i was there in the bubble this year), it's a fun game and a chance to see what the future holds. Stop worrying about the team up North and start supporting this team. Maybe one day, Mike Brown won't have the option, but I think there will be too much **** to pay in Cbus with their own fans before we have to really worry about this long term.