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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Interim commissioner was on 700 WLW with Dan Hoard on Sunday discussing the future of the Big East. He said the Big East TV deal was going well and he believes it could exceed ACC package. it was not mentioned if he was talking about per team or as a lump (Big East has more teams to split the $$$ with than ACC).
I have been following this closely and here are some notes and predictions: - ESPN has until Oct 1st to negotiate a TV deal with the Big East. No other networks can make an offer until that point. The Big East did hear what NBC and other networks had to say about how they would present the big east in earleir meetings. - I think ESPN would offer about 13-15 million per year to FOOTBALL playing teams. ACC currently gets 17 per team. - This amount of money would put the Big East way above all the mid majors and close to the other BCS conferences. - I don't think that is good enough for the Big East. The deal breaker will be if ESPN decides to put the Big East Champ in the Orange Bowl. If they do, we will stay with ESPN. - If ESPN doesnt put us into a former BCS game I think we go to NBC. I believe the offer would be around 14-17 million per team. - I also think the Big East/NBC would create its own bowl game. I think NBC would make the payout significant. Have "Football Night in America" crew do the pregame. Offer the Big 10 #2 or the Big XII #2 to participate. - You put that game as close to the Orange Bowl as you can. You directly compete because NBC would make it the biggest college football game of their year and the Orange Bowl is the lowest priority of the major bowls to ESPN. You could do major damage to the ACC and Orange Bowl. Why would NBC make such a big offer? - The Big East brings the biggest markets and TV sets of all the major conferences and it isnt close. More than Big 10, SEC or Big XII. - While they may not be the dominate team in the area they create interest. For example, USF may not be the "it" team in Florida or Tampa even but there will be significant interest and TV sets on. How many OSU fans keep an eye on UC games? A ton. IF SMU has a great year the entire state of Texas will watch. - NBC could put college football on their network (NBC, MSNBC is rumored, and of coarse NBC Sports) from noon until midnight with the widespread national members. No matter what people say, most people only care about regional teams, their conference or top 10 games. Pac 12 might be much better conference but who watches any Pac 12 games outside of USC? **** most do not watch SEC games outside the top 10. It just so happens they have a ton of top 10 teams ha. Should be very interesting. |
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Swofford is sweating bullets in ACC country. FSU, VT & Clemson are watching the Big East TV deal negotiations intently. If our deal even comes anywhere close to the ballpark of the ACC Swofford is out and those schools are gone.
And let's face it. Put the new ACC and the new Big East champions against each other and we'll take the game most times. The Big East is unorthodox....but it is undeniably better in football. The ESPN smear campaign seems to have failed. It's amazing what an associate commissioner who can go out and promote the league can do. |
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That was associate commissioner Nick Carparelli, not the interim commissioner.
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As a former media executive, I would say the TV deal is aided greatly by the BBall only teams in Philly, NY, Chicago and CT - some huge TV markets. Potential local audiences have to drive the deal to a large extent when you aren't the Big "Whatevers" or the SEC. In fact, isn't the Big East the only conference that can sell itself primarily based on its markets - maybe the Pac 10 too to some extent.
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Join Date: May 2008
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The only conference with teams in all four time zones have to help.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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I hear there's a guy who runs a huge stadium down in Texas that's just itching to have a major bowl game there every year.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Murphy, Texas
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does anyone know what uc is getting currently from tv arrangements?
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This is a total guess but I think teams are getting around 3.5 - 5 million a year. Rather paltry compared to all the other 5 conferences "supposedly" listed above us. But, as stated many times we are the last one to have our old contract come up to start negotiating and the morons out there who say we won't even be able to surpass the 1.4billion espn offered, end of last year, well... they need to get a clue. When you have the high profile people who are going to be doing the negotiations now, and you have a product that can be shown in EVERY major television market across the country, AND your going to have 3 or more different outlets all bidding to own that product.. That equals PAYDAY son!. Now, your going to see every single espn related media outlet talking about how we won't get that much because of the loss of some teams but thats becuase they are one of the bidders who want to keep the Big East in a corner and they sure as heck aren't going to let any media outlet they control even whisper about the possibility of the Big East getting a significant pay raise. You can take that to the bank!
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If NBC, the Big East and Cotton Bowl/Jerry get together, that could be a very good deal for the Big East. They do things big in Texas and I have no doubt Jerry Jones would make this a BIG game. The he** with the Orange Bowl and their ACC friends!
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That's what I thought which would be great. You can pretty much guarantee most years it will be Texas, Oklahoma or OSU and now WVU and TCU (maybe).
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Murphy, Texas
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At this point, the Cotton bowl matches #2 SEC vs #2 Big 12. That matchup is VERY popular down here and I can't imagine the Cotton Bowl wanting to change that. Jerry's World (Cotton bowl) is also considered one of the two top contenders for the new Champions Game along with New Orleans.
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It would need to be a new game. Cotton is very happy with sec and big 12.
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Basically the Champions is for the #1 team from each of those two conferences "SEC / Big12" *Unless the bowl is hosting the NC game or one of the #1s is going to be in the NC game then the #2 team takes place.
The Cotton would then get to pick which SEC and Big12 team they want to be in their bowl, it doesn't necessarily have to be the #2's as they can grab whoever is available and eligible. Quick question of my own though... just to clarify, the Champions Bowl wont exist till 2014 when the playoff format goes into effect? I mean the bowl was just recently created between the 2 conferences just after the announcement of the playoff format.. right? Last edited by 98bearcat : 08-16-2012 at 12:23 PM. |
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