2012-13 Roster

[ColumbusBearcat]

Basketball season is coming soon! Let's talk line-ups...

PG: C. Wright - G. Guyn
SG: S. Kilpatrick - J. Sanders - J. Davis III
SF: J. Parker - S. Thomas
PF: T. Rubles - J. Jackson
C: C. Mbodj - D. Nyarsuk - K. Gaines

Obviously, Cash and SK are going to dominate most of the minutes at PG and SG. Guyn will be primary PG back-up and Sanders will back-up SK, while being able to slide into the SF a little as well.

There will be 4 players rotating through the majority of playing time at the SF and PF spots. (Parker, Thomas, Rubles, and Jackson) We'll still play fast with a 4 guard or 4 out offense, but if Rubles and Thomas develop into the players that we all hope they will... It will be hard to actually have four guards on the floor at once like last year. So, JD III and Sanders playing time actually depends more on Rubles and Thomas than anything.

Hopefully, Mbodj and Nyarsuk can combine to handle most of the minutes at the C position. I think Gaines might still be a year away. I can see Jackson seeing a lot of minutes at C as well. It'll be hard to keep his kind of energy off the floor, unless he's on the bench with foul trouble.

[OCASCM07]

I'm thinking more like this based off of what I've heard Mick say about a 3 guard, swingman, bigman lineup (Jackson fits the size of a swingman and can shoot the outside jumper based on what he did in the Deveroe's league and the addition of Nyarsuk gives us depth down low so Jackson can play the 4.):

Starters
PG: Cash
SG: Killa
SF: Parker
PF: Jackson
C: Mbodj

Goon Squad
PG: Guyn
SG: JD3
SF: Sanders
PF: Rubles
C: Nyarsuk

Foul Trouble / Good Practice Lineup / Reserves
SG/SF/PF: Thomas (Had to move him down after re-reading some things on him versus JD3's offseason)
PF/C: Gaines
PG/SG: Eppensteiner

[OCASCM07]

Pre-Nyarsuk my lineup was this:

Starters
PG: Cash
SG: Killa
SF: Parker
PF: Rubles
C: Jackson

Goon Squad
PG: Guyn
SG: JD3
SF: Sanders
PF: Thomas
C: Mbodj

Foul Trouble / Good Practice Lineup / Reserves
PG/SG: Eppensteiner
C: Gaines

[jbreeds1]

I'm really excited to see Shaq Thomas play this year. Hopefully he turns out to be a lot like Killa plus 6 inches.

[Corporateballa]

Thomas is not ready. I went to a workout with a couple other ex-players. If he contributes like Killa did yr #1, I'll be shocked.

[jbreeds1]

Originally Posted by Corporateballa

Thomas is not ready. I went to a workout with a couple other ex-players. If he contributes like Killa did yr #1, I'll be shocked.

What stood out most? Just curious...

[loshow22]

Don't sleep on JDIII please...

[Cats4Ever]

I noticed that we don't have any true freshmen on this roster - not surprising as there are so many sophomores.

I can't recall any team not having freshmen (excluding penalized or coaching changes teams).

[coach]

i'm not sure i would not still bring jackson in from the bench. he's to prone to picking up fouls. also, rubles is a pretty versatile player. i would not be suprised to see him start.

[GoBearcats31]

Originally Posted by Cats4Ever

I noticed that we don't have any true freshmen on this roster - not surprising as there are so many sophomores.

I can't recall any team not having freshmen (excluding penalized or coaching changes teams).

Not sure if you mean UC or anyone but Ohio State had zero freshmen a few years ago http://www.theozone.net/hoops/09-10mens/roster.htm And this was because of an imbalance in scholarships, with a ton of freshmen the year before. So UC is in a similar boat, but they obviously had room for another freshman.

[Thegreatone]

Originally Posted by Corporateballa

Thomas is not ready. I went to a workout with a couple other ex-players. If he contributes like Killa did yr #1, I'll be shocked.

I would imagine that Thomas wouldnt look great during a workout session. He is a gamer. His skill set is so unique to this team. 6'7 and a solid jumper (from what I have seen in DSL and other places, I have no idea where his jumpshot became a concern) who can run and jump.

[waterhead]

Originally Posted by Thegreatone

I would imagine that Thomas wouldnt look great during a workout session. He is a gamer. His skill set is so unique to this team. 6'7 and a solid jumper (from what I have seen in DSL and other places, I have no idea where his jumpshot became a concern) who can run and jump.

If Thomas is a gamer and not necessarily a hard worker in practice...I would also guess he's not going to be working his butt off on D...and that's going to land him on the pine until it sinks in. If the above is true I am going to give the nod to Rubles for playing time...and maybe even Sanders.

As with almost any team...we are going to see the most experienced players get the minutes. Thomas is going to have the least college playing experience of any player on the roster. I have high expectations for Thomas but it doesn't sound like he is going to "get it" from day one. He is definitely unique on our roster...and for his and our sake I hope he is a very hard worker so we can see him on the floor a lot.

As I understand it Rubles is a high effort guy and so is Nyarsuk. That is what is going to earn you minutes on a Cronin roster. Having the most skill is not always going to lead to the most minutes.

[cmm27]

Not trying to compare myself to any Division 1 college athelete at all, but I was never a practice player. I worked my tail off during practice, but it never translated to anything during the work outs and drills and such. The moment the whistle blew, however, I could perform when called upon. It was truly strange, but there was a blockage in practice where I could miss every shot taken, but when it counted I could reliably be counted on to hit shots and such. But, because of that and my hard work during practice I was able to defend well enough not to be a total chump.

[Carin's Dad]

Originally Posted by cmm27

Not trying to compare myself to any Division 1 college athelete at all, but I was never a practice player. I worked my tail off during practice, but it never translated to anything during the work outs and drills and such. The moment the whistle blew, however, I could perform when called upon. It was truly strange, but there was a blockage in practice where I could miss every shot taken, but when it counted I could reliably be counted on to hit shots and such. But, because of that and my hard work during practice I was able to defend well enough not to be a total chump.

A Div 1 college coach has to understand his players enough to know how their work translates to game situations and act accordingly - I hope. Unless you're John Wooden and you make them believe in that pyramid enough that they are busting it at all times.

[subflea]

Originally Posted by Cats4Ever

I noticed that we don't have any true freshmen on this roster - not surprising as there are so many sophomores.

There are only 4 sophomores.

[Thewhiteboy]

Originally Posted by ColumbusBearcat

Basketball season is coming soon! Let's talk line-ups...

PG: C. Wright - G. Guyn
SG: S. Kilpatrick - J. Sanders - J. Davis III
SF: J. Parker - S. Thomas
PF: T. Rubles - J. Jackson
C: C. Mbodj - D. Nyarsuk - K. Gaines

Obviously, Cash and SK are going to dominate most of the minutes at PG and SG. Guyn will be primary PG back-up and Sanders will back-up SK, while being able to slide into the SF a little as well.

There will be 4 players rotating through the majority of playing time at the SF and PF spots. (Parker, Thomas, Rubles, and Jackson) We'll still play fast with a 4 guard or 4 out offense, but if Rubles and Thomas develop into the players that we all hope they will... It will be hard to actually have four guards on the floor at once like last year. So, JD III and Sanders playing time actually depends more on Rubles and Thomas than anything.

Hopefully, Mbodj and Nyarsuk can combine to handle most of the minutes at the C position. I think Gaines might still be a year away. I can see Jackson seeing a lot of minutes at C as well. It'll be hard to keep his kind of energy off the floor, unless he's on the bench with foul trouble.

PG: C. Wright
SG: S. Kilpatrick
SF: S. Thomas
PF: T. Rubles
C: J. Jackson
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SG:J. Parker
C: C.Mbodj
PG:G Guyn
SG:J. Davis III
SF:J. Sanders
C: K. Gaines
C: D. Nyarsuk

[Brian H.]

Originally Posted by Thewhiteboy

PG: C. Wright
SG: S. Kilpatrick
SF: S. Thomas
PF: T. Rubles
C: J. Jackson
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SG:J. Parker
C: C.Mbodj
PG:G Guyn
SG:J. Davis III
SF:J. Sanders
C: K. Gaines
C: D. Nyarsuk

Can't see Thomas starting over Parker or Rubles over Mbodj. I am gonna go at least for the first 10 games:

PG: Cash
SG: Kilpatrick
SF: Parker
PF: Jackson
C: Mbodj

Thomas and Guyn are first off the bench. I can't see Rubles cracking the starting lineup this year. We now have 3 true centers on the team so I think one of them will be on the floor pretty much at all times. We are weaker at the 4 so you are going to play Jackson and Rubles there with maybe Sanders in spot duty

[swilsonsp4]

Originally Posted by Brian H.

Can't see Thomas starting over Parker or Rubles over Mbodj. I am gonna go at least for the first 10 games:

PG: Cash
SG: Kilpatrick
SF: Parker
PF: Jackson
C: Mbodj

Thomas and Guyn are first off the bench. I can't see Rubles cracking the starting lineup this year. We now have 3 true centers on the team so I think one of them will be on the floor pretty much at all times. We are weaker at the 4 so you are going to play Jackson and Rubles there with maybe Sanders in spot duty

Rubles isn't a center. He's a combo forward who could play at either the 3 or 4. He's probably about 6'7", maybe 6'8", and not overly bulky. His rebounding strength will come from athleticism, not the ability to move people.

That doesn't mean he'd be able to start at either of those positions, either. Parker and Jackson are going to play the most. Still, it's highly likely that Mick will go without a center at times, playing for speed. I expect Rubles to play a lot. Actually, I expect virtually everyone to play a lot. This team is deep.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by coach

i'm not sure i would not still bring jackson in from the bench. he's to prone to picking up fouls. also, rubles is a pretty versatile player. i would not be suprised to see him start.

I think the development of Jackson is the key to determing how the lineup will eventually look. The Jackson of last year we really do not need. He made spectacular plays, but for every great play he killed us with silly fouls or being totally out of position on defense. The mistakes far outweighed the great plays. I think he was overly agressive because he wanted to make a great play every time down the floor, which led to silly fouls because he was faked out of his shoes. He can be a really good player, but now as an upper classman he needs to understand how important it is to stay focused and not make stupid mistakes. He also had a tendency on offense to do things he really cannot do, like put the ball on the floor. Sometimes on offense he seemed to think he was Magic Johnson or something; he wanted to make the great spectacular pass instead of making solid basketball plays.

If he can get his head into the game and cut down on the silly mistakes, he can really help this team, but like I said the Jackson of last year we really do not need.

[Best Body]

Originally Posted by waterhead

If Thomas is a gamer and not necessarily a hard worker in practice....

iverson's classic press conference comes to mind for some reason