QB Talk

[BigDaddyCornHusker]

The QB will be the make it or break it position for the Cats this year. Butch originally said that the position is wide open. Last week, he fed some positive news on Legaux. But he has not firmly committed yet, has he? Brandon Kay seems to still be in the mix. Is Muchie Legaux the right guy for this year? Does he have the confidence of the coaching staff?

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2012/...rterback-play/

[udonkey]

At tonight's practice, it was:

1. Munchie
2. Kay
3. Coyne

Luallen ran the wildcat in a couple of goal line series.

[JohnFrancis]

Why does CBS have the 'Cats (and Boise) trending downward???

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...o-the-next-rg3

[Carin's Dad]

Originally Posted by JohnFrancis

Why does CBS have the 'Cats (and Boise) trending downward???

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...o-the-next-rg3

Duh? Collaros, Pead, Wolfe.....

[Thegreatone]

Originally Posted by JohnFrancis

Why does CBS have the 'Cats (and Boise) trending downward???

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...o-the-next-rg3

3 out of 4 championships. People think we have to come down eventually.

[JohnFrancis]

Originally Posted by Carin's Dad

Duh? Collaros, Pead, Wolfe.....

Duh, before a game is played? Trends are based on (scalar) observables based on my UC education....albeit under BK, the 'Cats have been able to handle QB injuries and graduation losses pretty well. Coach Jones' recruiting classes have been somewhat better than BK's (if you believe the recruiting services).

Also, it is not the loss of Collaros, Pead, Wolfe per se...it is the DIFFERENCE in production between them and their replacements that determines how the team will fare. Duh.

[GoCats1994]

Originally Posted by udonkey

At tonight's practice, it was:

1. Munchie
2. Kay
3. Coyne

Luallen ran the wildcat in a couple of goal line series.

Seems like the only reports we get on this front are coming from Dehner - who continues to imply it's Munchie's job.

That being said... I still find it curious that Butch hasn't come out and named a starter.

[BigDaddyCornHusker]

Originally Posted by GoCats1994

That being said... I still find it curious that Butch hasn't come out and named a starter.

I'm with you. Either Butch feels like Legaux needs pushed or he's not liking what he sees.

[udonkey]

Slightly off topic, but I recall thinking all of last season that Munchie was just too thin to be our QB and it scared me every time he scrambled...seemed fragile.

In my mind, Coney is a larger version of Munchie - when I was at Higher Ground, I was really surprised by how similar their builds are. In pads, the guys are near clones of one another. I'm not sure if Coney is smaller than I thought or if Munchie bulked up in the off season, but regardless, I didn't get the same feeling this year.

Here's to hoping that Munchie claims the job and passes it on to a prepared prototype in Coney!

[GoCats1994]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCornHusker

I'm with you. Either Butch feels like Legaux needs pushed or he's not liking what he sees.

Trying to read between the lines...

Seems like Butch is waiting to see some level of consistency (both in preparation and on-the-field execution) from Munchie. If he sees what he wants to see, the job is his.

I would imagine we'll know more once they resume practices at Nippert.

[CaptainProbasco]

Originally Posted by Carin's Dad

Duh? Collaros, Pead, Wolfe.....

How is that a "duh?" Three players don't make a team. Almost everyone else who contributed last year is back.

[juckerrules]

Originally Posted by CaptainProbasco

How is that a "duh?" Three players don't make a team. Almost everyone else who contributed last year is back.

I think Munchie will surprise - the offense suits him and he has one more year of experience & maturity.

You can't replace NFL players and not lose something, but as you said, there are many other players who will be better this year and may, collectively, make up that difference.

[Dannyboy]

Munchie's low release drives me crazy. 6'4" QBs shouldn't be getting passes knocked down every game. Any chance he's fixed that?

[DMoney1080]

Could also be a ploy to keep Pitt guessing too. Kay doesn't have the scrambling ability that Munchie has, but in terms of injury, Kay scares me. The guy has a cannon, but he's been injured every year he's been here. Honestly, if we can get the ball in the WR's and RB's hands, we should be good, we have a lot of play-makers. I hope everyone keeps dogging us - the chip keeps getting bigger and bigger.

[Carin's Dad]

Originally Posted by CaptainProbasco

How is that a "duh?" Three players don't make a team. Almost everyone else who contributed last year is back.

I was responding to the question - not the team's prospects this year. I think we'll have another great year!

[coach]

in a topic very directly impacting whomever is playing qb, has anyone else heard/seen this kid from indy buckley the frosh rb? i'm getting reports that this kid is VERY good.

[cpawstoney]

Butch said exactly that to Koch:

MOST IMPRESSIVE FRESHMEN: Wide receivers Nate Cole and Jeremy Graves. Both are expected to play as true freshmen. Other freshmen who have caught Jones’ eye are defensive back Leviticus Payne and running back Deionte Buckley.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...ws|text|Sports
Sounds like we'll have a wealth of running backs: Winn, Poteat, Abernathy, Buckley. I wonder if he'll red shirt Buckley to save him for a year.

[coach]

i haven't seen him myself, but i know he was highly regarded but slightly undersized. i would be shocked if he's red shirted as i've heard he has looked as good as any of the backs. i think there is an internal and natural inclination when guys are frosh to not play it up to much, but from what i hear he can flat out run the ball. boy the young backs and rec'd they have in the pipeline cannot help but get you excited for the season to start. here's to hoping they all can hold onto the ball.

[richard k.]

Originally Posted by CaptainProbasco

How is that a "duh?" Three players don't make a team. Almost everyone else who contributed last year is back.

You're right - 3 players don't make a team - BUT, you are replacing the most important position on the offensive side of the ball with basically an unproven guy, with poor fundamentals and a head coach who won't even give him the nod as the starter over a senior whose been injured his entire career (I sure hope that is because Kay has shown exceptionally well this spring, not because Munchie hasn't). And if you don't think the 2 guys in the middle of the defensive line, along with J.K., were the heart and soul of the defense last year you might not have been watching the same team I was.

If UC has finally reached the stage where we can lose our starting qb, the captain of our defense, and 3 other guys to early NFL draft selections, without missing a beat I couldn't be more elated. I sure hope you are right - it would mean we are finally reaching the stage where no matter who graduates we simply roll on at a premium level.

[GoCats1994]

I think it's safe to assume that Butch saw the level of consistency he was hoping to see from Munchie.

Big opening game next week. Sure would be mice to get out ot the gate strong.

I'll be there rooting on the home team!