Former Rumored Recruit

[jeffto]

Bud Mackey gets out of jail in 10 days. Lets start the rumors.

But seriously, what would have to happen? He's paid his debt to society. He deserves a second chance somewhere. Why not UC?

[SLMadiCat]

Originally Posted by jeffto

Bud Mackey gets out of jail in 10 days. Lets start the rumors.

But seriously, what would have to happen? He's paid his debt to society. He deserves a second chance somewhere. Why not UC?

Because we've been down that road. Let some other team deal with his issues.

[milfordcats]

Can he play the point????????

[jeffto]

Originally Posted by milfordcats

Can he play the point????????

Top 5 point guard. Heavily recruited.

[SLMadiCat]

He is a shooting guard, not a point guard...and he got convicted of selling crack at a school. Yea, just what this team needs.

[jeffto]

Originally Posted by SLMadiCat

He is a shooting guard, not a point guard...and he got convicted of selling crack at a school. Yea, just what this team needs.

Probably a better point than Vaughn. Would have been a McD's AA.

Everyone deserves a chance to rehabilitate themselves, but you're right, Morgantown will be better than Clifton.

[milfordcats]

Put him on an extremely short leash and give him a second chance...

[Thegreatone]

I dont know jeffto, I gotta disagree. There are a lot of things I can over look but selling crack at school is where I gotta draw a line.

[Lobot]

Based on Mick's/ Mike's criteria for players, I think it's a foregone conclusion that he won't play here. If I'm wrong I'll run naked through the woods with Don.

[SLMadiCat]

Originally Posted by jeffto

Probably a better point than Vaughn. Would have been a McD's AA.

Everyone deserves a chance to rehabilitate themselves, but you're right, Morgantown will be better than Clifton.

I'd say there is less than a .5% chance Mick even recruits him again, let alone him coming, here. Still, if he gets out of jail in 10 days he will get a chance to rehabilitate. Just because he doesn't get another opportunity to play basketball while getting a free education, doesn't mean he hasn't gotten a second chance. He should be thankful that he can work at a McDonald's rather than the laundry mat at the penitentiary.

ps - I highly doubt he would have been a McD's AA.

I wouldn't be stunned if Mackey comes to UC but will be surprised if he comes THIS year.

[jeffto]

He's a good kid who made a mistake for money. I believe he was delivering crack for his cousin. Stupid? yes. About 2 months in jail worth of stupid.

And, BTW, he played point at Scott County and Harmony.

From a story before his troubles:

Mackey answers everything with sir:

“Yes, sir, I do enjoy playing point guard.”

“No, sir, I didn’t mind moving over from shooting guard since it helped the team.”

“Sir, I’d just like to win a state title.”

This is Bud Mackey — people seemingly always refer to him by both first and last name because of the poetic and simple way the names seem to fit together, and fit him — at his most sincere.

“He’s just a good kid,” says Hicks, who picked up his 650th win in the first game of this season. “You say that about a lot of kids, but it’s resounding with Bud Mackey.”..........

What do you remember about Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley? The way they dominated? They way they made it look easy?

Or the way they always looked to be able to just have more fun: Johnson’s big smile and bright eyes, Jordan with his tongue out, Barkley relishing what he could accomplish with a body that shouldn’t.

Mackey has this quality. He enjoys basketball. Parts of his game need work for sure. But he has the passion.

[SLMadiCat]

Then you are all about double standards Jeffto. You rail Huggins, talk about the bad image and the bad stuff that happened, then you forget all about it when a top player comes along.

And the kid, from everything I know, was not a point guard. Wilks and Bishop played PG some too. I guess they are PG's.

For every kid that gets busted selling crack, there is a story about how good of a kid he is.

[jeffto]

Originally Posted by SLMadiCat

Then you are all about double standards Jeffto. You rail Huggins, talk about the bad image and the bad stuff that happened, then you forget all about it when a top player comes along.

And the kid, from everything I know, was not a point guard. Wilks and Bishop played PG some too. I guess they are PG's.

For every kid that gets busted selling crack, there is a story about how good of a kid he is.

Not a double standard. Huggins behavior problems occurred, for the most part, after they got to UC. It was his lack of control, or disinterest that caused the problems.

If Mick thinks that Mackey, with a very, very short leash, can turn his life around at UC, why not? This country cannot afford to keep throwing away kid's lives for the mistakes they make as kids.

PG? He would be a better point than anyone suiting up right now.

[jeffto]

Originally Posted by Bearcat Fan Since 1958

Mick recruited Donald Little and BJ Grove. I wouldn't be stunned if Mackey comes to UC but will be surprised if he comes THIS year.

But it took Thuggins to turn Little and Grove into what they became.

[bubbachunk]

Originally Posted by SLMadiCat

Then you are all about double standards Jeffto. You rail Huggins, talk about the bad image and the bad stuff that happened, then you forget all about it when a top player comes along.

And the kid, from everything I know, was not a point guard. Wilks and Bishop played PG some too. I guess they are PG's.

For every kid that gets busted selling crack, there is a story about how good of a kid he is.

To me there is a large difference between a 40+ year old man making a mistake versus an 18 year old kid. Did he know right from wrong? You gotta assume so. Do we know the whole story as to the situation that drove him to do this? No.

We are not the ones to make judgment. The kid has put in his time and if our coaching staff after spending time getting to know the kid believes he is not some drug dealing thug and wants to give him a second chance then I say go for it before someone else does...

[SLMadiCat]

Originally Posted by jeffto

Not a double standard. Huggins behavior problems occurred, for the most part, after they got to UC. It was his lack of control, or disinterest that caused the problems.

If Mick thinks that Mackey, with a very, very short leash, can turn his life around at UC, why not? This country cannot afford to keep throwing away kid's lives for the mistakes they make as kids.

PG? He would be a better point than anyone suiting up right now.

So this country is throwing away the kids life, not the actual kid who committed the crime? That attitude right there is why we have so many problems like this in the first place.

How many times have you seen him play? My guess is none, so how are you able to make this statement? As for a short leash, that does nothing to help the image of the program. If he gets busted for selling crack again it doesn't matter how short the leash is, it is still going to get national attention and tarnish the restored image.

Originally Posted by bubbachunk

To me there is a large difference between a 40+ year old man making a mistake versus an 18 year old kid. Did he know right from wrong? You gotta assume so. Do we know the whole story as to the situation that drove him to do this? No.

We are not the ones to make judgment. The kid has put in his time and if our coaching staff after spending time getting to know the kid believes he is not some drug dealing thug and wants to give him a second chance then I say go for it before someone else does...

He was selling crack at a school. That is a bit more than something to chalk up to a 18 year old mistake. I don't care about the situation. It's like those people who robbed a store gunpoint to pay for school. It was stupid. And I can make judgment because he put himself in that position. His second chance is being allowed out of jail, not a free education, IMO. Someone will probably take him, I just hope it's not UC.

[Thegreatone]

18 year old mistake haha. I like that I am 20 what can I get away with. Crack really?? Crack. No, let him go JUCO and have some other school pick him up in a few years. I hope he does well but I am fairly certain a 18 year knows selling crack is a poor choice.

[ralph1950]

Billy Gillespie is in bad need of a point guard.

[jeffto]

Originally Posted by SLMadiCat

He was selling crack at a school. That is a bit more than something to chalk up to a 18 year old mistake. I don't care about the situation. It's like those people who robbed a store gunpoint to pay for school. It was stupid. And I can make judgment because he put himself in that position. His second chance is being allowed out of jail, not a free education, IMO. Someone will probably take him, I just hope it's not UC.

So serving his time as dictated by the judge means nothing? He paid his debt to society, but now he's got to pay his debt to who? You?

You obviously know nothing about the details of his situation, so why don't you judge it by the only facts you're privy to - the sentence. A 2 month drug related sentence would indicate a very minor law violation. But you want to sentence him to a lifetime of working at McDonalds?