The Idea of Army/Navy Joining the BE

4mrUCat · 11-11-2009, 08:34 PM

Happy Veterans Day to all those out there & thanks for all you've done.

I've been thinking about this for several weeks & figured today was the most appropriate day to post it.

I think the plusses would outway the minuses of Army & Navy joining the Big East for football.

What do you guys think? I would like to hear others thoughts before posting all of mine.

psax889906 · 11-11-2009, 08:42 PM

Navy would be a good addition to the football aspect... but what in the world does Army bring?

BasketBySteveLogan · 11-11-2009, 08:56 PM

National attention on Veteran's Day and an easy vic

DimitriusChristedes · 11-11-2009, 09:22 PM

you subject line is misleading.

Carthage World · 11-11-2009, 09:45 PM

How about Navy and Notre Dame

Furry Bearcat · 11-11-2009, 10:23 PM

Remember when we helped Army break their 19 game losing streak?! I know I do. I was at West Point for that game. That was the only time I've ever enjoyed a Bearcat loss!

STKohls · 11-11-2009, 10:26 PM

I'm a big fan of both Army and Navy, and I respect their service but I don't think they bring much to the Big East. Tradition is important but for the conference, talent and competitiveness is more important.

I'd rather the Big East give Notre Dame the choice: join us for football, or your basketball, volleyball, soccer, and track teams can find a new conference. You're either part of the conference, or not.

BearcatRob33 · 11-11-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DimitriusChristedes

you subject line is misleading.

Agreed. These misleading headlines are getting tiresome. Mods, can you 'mod'ify the header?

MDW79 · 11-11-2009, 10:50 PM

I have the utmost respect for these institutions but they would bring no benefit athletically to the conference, in fact I think they would only make the BE resemble something more like CUSA. I'll take Memphis and hopefully try to snag a team from the Big 11 or SEC. Either way ND needs to go and the bball side needs to split into 2 divisions.

binturong07 · 11-11-2009, 11:08 PM

Terrible idea. It doesnt benefit the Big East in any way.

psax889906 · 11-11-2009, 11:15 PM

I think some of you are tossing aside Navy and the program they've established there over the past decade or so... good things are happening there... they would bring more to the conference right now than Syracuse... and over the past two seasons, Louisville...

Bearcat-in-Italy · 11-11-2009, 11:48 PM

No No No No No.

RedRocker · 11-12-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by STKohls

I'd rather the Big East give Notre Dame the choice: join us for football, or your basketball, volleyball, soccer, and track teams can find a new conference. You're either part of the conference, or not.

Agreed. Crap or get off the pot!

MDW79 · 11-12-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by psax889906

I think some of you are tossing aside Navy and the program they've established there over the past decade or so... good things are happening there... they would bring more to the conference right now than Syracuse... and over the past two seasons, Louisville...

No way. You can't base it off a couple of years. There's a reason Navy had lost to ND 44 years in a row. Syracuse has maybe the best tradition in our league, you could make a case for Pitt over them but regardless... Louisville has the talent and plenty of resources, they're just horribly coached, which will change. I don't see how anyone would think bringing in a service academy would help legitimize our conference, we're better off with 8 teams than diluting it with adding below average teams.

Lobot · 11-12-2009, 01:29 AM

Sorry, checked in late tonight. What would you like the title of the thread to be?

RedRocker · 11-12-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lobot

Sorry, checked in late tonight. What would you like the title of the thread to be?

How about "Army and Navy join the Big East?"

Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick · 11-12-2009, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lobot

Sorry, checked in late tonight. What would you like the title of the thread to be?

It could be: "The Idea of Army/Navy Joining the BE".

For those familiar with my posts, it's no secret that misleading thread titles are a pet peeve of mine. However, in this case, I'm GLAD this was a misleading title, as I don't really care to have either team in the confrence

Nothing personal. I just don't think they add anything but tradition. Army and Navy may have been good a half century ago, but so were Holy Cross, and maybe some of the Ivy schools. Point is, tradition in itself does not equate to big time athletics.

Furthermore, I think the idea has been floated by them, as well, and THEY are not interested either. The proposal is DOA.

juckerrules · 11-12-2009, 06:35 AM

My reaction when I saw the misleading subject line was: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

JDBEARCAT · 11-12-2009, 06:45 AM

Bad idea. Both bring nothing to the big east but mediocre programs that would
dilute the league even further.
Make ND join or get out altogether.

Chips · 11-12-2009, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MDW79

No way. You can't base it off a couple of years.

Many said the same about us a few short years ago.

Army is really stretching it - they're REALLY bad in both sports. Navy is closer (top 5-ish non-AQ football - more recent BBall success-David Robinson than Army-Coach K), and at least seams more feasible to me.

11-11-2009, 08:34 PM	#1
4mrUCat Member Join Date: Jan 2008	The Idea of Army/Navy Joining the BE Happy Veterans Day to all those out there & thanks for all you've done. I've been thinking about this for several weeks & figured today was the most appropriate day to post it. I think the plusses would outway the minuses of Army & Navy joining the Big East for football. What do you guys think? I would like to hear others thoughts before posting all of mine.

11-12-2009, 01:29 AM	#15
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11-11-2009, 08:42 PM	#2
psax889906 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008	Navy would be a good addition to the football aspect... but what in the world does Army bring?

11-11-2009, 08:56 PM	#3
BasketBySteveLogan Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bellingham, WA	National attention on Veteran's Day and an easy vic

11-11-2009, 09:22 PM	#4
DimitriusChristedes Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2007	you subject line is misleading.

11-11-2009, 09:45 PM	#5
Carthage World Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Queens, NY	How about Navy and Notre Dame

11-11-2009, 10:23 PM	#6
Furry Bearcat Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH	Remember when we helped Army break their 19 game losing streak?! I know I do. I was at West Point for that game. That was the only time I've ever enjoyed a Bearcat loss!

11-11-2009, 10:26 PM	#7
STKohls Member Join Date: Apr 2007	I'm a big fan of both Army and Navy, and I respect their service but I don't think they bring much to the Big East. Tradition is important but for the conference, talent and competitiveness is more important. I'd rather the Big East give Notre Dame the choice: join us for football, or your basketball, volleyball, soccer, and track teams can find a new conference. You're either part of the conference, or not.

11-11-2009, 10:50 PM	#9
MDW79 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cincinnati	I have the utmost respect for these institutions but they would bring no benefit athletically to the conference, in fact I think they would only make the BE resemble something more like CUSA. I'll take Memphis and hopefully try to snag a team from the Big 11 or SEC. Either way ND needs to go and the bball side needs to split into 2 divisions.

11-11-2009, 11:08 PM	#10
binturong07 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2008	Terrible idea. It doesnt benefit the Big East in any way.

11-11-2009, 11:15 PM	#11
psax889906 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008	I think some of you are tossing aside Navy and the program they've established there over the past decade or so... good things are happening there... they would bring more to the conference right now than Syracuse... and over the past two seasons, Louisville...

11-11-2009, 11:48 PM	#12
Bearcat-in-Italy Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2007	No No No No No.

11-12-2009, 06:35 AM	#18
juckerrules Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007	My reaction when I saw the misleading subject line was: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

11-12-2009, 06:45 AM	#19
JDBEARCAT Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Bad idea. Both bring nothing to the big east but mediocre programs that would dilute the league even further. Make ND join or get out altogether.