Doyel is Right

Carin's Dad · 11-14-2009, 08:03 PM

I'm afraid he's right: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...itle-game-look

On the other hand, everybody will be watching on DEC 5 too. We can still impress.

udonkey · 11-14-2009, 08:06 PM

I haven't read the whole article yet, but since when can you see a "great view of the city behind the stadium"?

Is he talking about PBS?

Carin's Dad · 11-14-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by udonkey

I haven't read the whole article yet, but since when can you see a "great view of the city behind the stadium"?

Is he talking about PBS?

Press box?

udonkey · 11-14-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Carin's Dad

Press box?

Perhaps...I guess I haven't been up there for a game. Then again, I lived on the 10th floor of Calhoun Hall and can't say that I even had a "great view" from there...hmmm

Oh well, maybe he's just making his story sound better.

mjb1979 · 11-14-2009, 08:16 PM

I can't argue with his premise. Really, the only part of the article I think he is absolutely wrong about is Kelly leaving after this year. Otherwise, he's right. Just being undefeated this year isn't going to be enough. That said, all I have really cared about is the BE title and winning a BCS game.

RedRocker · 11-14-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mjb1979

I can't argue with his premise. Really, the only part of the article I think he is absolutely wrong about is Kelly leaving after this year. Otherwise, he's right. Just being undefeated this year isn't going to be enough. That said, all I have really cared about is the BE title and winning a BCS game.

He's wrong about Pead's TD too.

I don't put much stock in any of his drivel.

mjb1979 · 11-14-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRocker

He's wrong about Pead's TD too.

Yeah, but I don't really buy into any of the "well if that call isn't overturned, West Virginia wins" claims. If the fumble stood, the game would have looked a lot different, but I still think we would have won, just in a different way.

MDW79 · 11-14-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mjb1979

I can't argue with his premise. Really, the only part of the article I think he is absolutely wrong about is Kelly leaving after this year. Otherwise, he's right. Just being undefeated this year isn't going to be enough. That said, all I have really cared about is the BE title and winning a BCS game.

He also called WVU unranked twice, they were 25th. I understand his point but if I read anything else about the touchdown and us only winning by 3 I'm going to puke. Had they not overturned it, WVU ball at the 2, and a whole lot of game left. By that logic, take away their last touchdown that we pretty much gave them. If not a simple, subtract 7 from UC and WVU would have won by 4. Argh..

Carin's Dad · 11-14-2009, 09:31 PM

Don't nitpick and miss the bigger picture. We had the chance to impress and we didn't.

I know, I know everybody has a scare every once in a while. But other teams can afford it and we can't. At least in terms of the NC game. Boise St impressed, TCU is impressing (at the half).

#41 · 11-14-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Carin's Dad

I know, I know everybody has a scare every once in a while. But other teams can afford it and we can't. At least in terms of the NC game. Boise St impressed, TCU is impressing (at the half).

Against a Utah team that has no quality victories. Utah is a total sham.

Doyle is right, but I'm sick of hearing "Kelly is leaving" in every one of these articles. I know it's true. Most everyone who roots for UC knows it's true, but there's no reason to keep rubbing the fact in our faces. It reeks of "Sorry, you'll never be one of us -- but cute of you for trying."

bubbachunk · 11-14-2009, 09:43 PM

This article could have been written about any of the top 5 teams. Each teams has had struggles with teams they should have blown out. Just because he has only seen one game does not mean we have not been impressive.

Lobot · 11-14-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by udonkey

Perhaps...I guess I haven't been up there for a game. Then again, I lived on the 10th floor of Calhoun Hall and can't say that I even had a "great view" from there...hmmm

Oh well, maybe he's just making his story sound better.

London 'Cat and I both lived on the 10th floor of Calhoun and we had a great view. What's wrong with your eyes man? lol

NorrisHopper30 · 11-14-2009, 11:30 PM

Doyel refers to WVU being unranked approximately 500 times, which is false.

bearcatd · 11-15-2009, 12:57 AM

Doyle is absolutely correct about missing an opportunity. I was happy with a win but bummed about the fact that it could have been much more. We still can impress against Illinois (which is a game that kind of scares me) and Pitt. Pitt looked really good last night against ND. That could be an interesting one. I'm concerned about the D stopping their running game. They also have some size at WR. We'll see I guess.

On the Kelly front, both Dan Hoard, in his Heard it from Hoard column last week, and Paul Daugherty "feel" that BK is in this for the long haul. Both say it's just a feeling they have but it is nice to hear it from two respected journalists (you don't have to agree to respect). They both say they are not in the know but they both think he's a different type of coach who enjoys the extra parts of selling the UC program. No need to discuss this...it just makes me feel a little better about the whole situation.

NorrisHopper30 · 11-15-2009, 05:29 AM

In the end, Pitt will be the last thing voters remember this year and we can impress them then. Every other team has had close games as well (minus TCU).

SteveHolt! · 11-15-2009, 01:14 PM

Dude is obviously a sensationalist DBag. "unranked WV'? well, 25 in the BCS isn't bad. If he wanted to use the AP, he should have at least said they were just outside the top 25. But that didn't fit his argument, so he omitted it. He wanted to write some BS that people who are unfamiliar with the rankings could just read and think'WV is a bad team'

to top off his a$$hatedness, he goes on to say 'Especially when seven of Cincinnati's points were bogus.' Really? did he see the replay? I saw it on college gameday yesterday and it was clear it was a TD. they froze it and blew it up. no question. Only the most toothless homer would say that it wasn't.

I wish we had won by more, and he could have made that argument without all the BS. Anytime someone takes a legit argument and piles onto it with a bunch of lies, half truths and BS, they are a douche. File him in that category!

marcuscan · 11-15-2009, 02:08 PM

Utah may not have any quality wins, HOWEVER....neither does WVU.

they are an average team, at best.

mc

bearcatd · 11-15-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by marcuscan

Utah may not have any quality wins, HOWEVER....neither does WVU.

they are an average team, at best.

mc

Utah and WVU are both very good programs. Though their schedules haven't been great, part of every weeks ranking is also based on recent history...like it or not. Just look at Texas.

mikedenman · 11-16-2009, 12:13 AM

We all know this is the MAJOR flaw in college football. You just can't win all your games. You have to win "sexy". I say I have to agree with Doyle's assessment based on the flawed, un-American criteria that is the BCS. Until we have a 4, 6, or 8-team playoff, teams like UC, TCU, and others to follow will have to win "sexy" to get a shot at a title. It's unfortunate and un_americamn, but it is the system that exists.

CaptainProbasco · 11-16-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveHolt!

Dude is obviously a sensationalist DBag. "unranked WV'? well, 25 in the BCS isn't bad. If he wanted to use the AP, he should have at least said they were just outside the top 25. But that didn't fit his argument, so he omitted it. He wanted to write some BS that people who are unfamiliar with the rankings could just read and think'WV is a bad team'

to top off his a$$hatedness, he goes on to say 'Especially when seven of Cincinnati's points were bogus.' Really? did he see the replay? I saw it on college gameday yesterday and it was clear it was a TD. they froze it and blew it up. no question. Only the most toothless homer would say that it wasn't.

I wish we had won by more, and he could have made that argument without all the BS. Anytime someone takes a legit argument and piles onto it with a bunch of lies, half truths and BS, they are a douche. File him in that category!

Amen to this. Especially the last two sentences.

11-14-2009, 08:03 PM	#1
Carin's Dad Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009	Doyel is Right I'm afraid he's right: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...itle-game-look On the other hand, everybody will be watching on DEC 5 too. We can still impress.

11-14-2009, 09:31 PM	#9
Carin's Dad Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009	Don't nitpick and miss the bigger picture. We had the chance to impress and we didn't. I know, I know everybody has a scare every once in a while. But other teams can afford it and we can't. At least in terms of the NC game. Boise St impressed, TCU is impressing (at the half). Last edited by Carin's Dad : 11-14-2009 at 09:33 PM.

11-14-2009, 09:43 PM	#11
bubbachunk Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cinci/Athens	This article could have been written about any of the top 5 teams. Each teams has had struggles with teams they should have blown out. Just because he has only seen one game does not mean we have not been impressive. __________________ When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.

11-14-2009, 11:30 PM	#13
NorrisHopper30 Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Milford	Doyel refers to WVU being unranked approximately 500 times, which is false. __________________ In Mick we trust

11-15-2009, 05:29 AM	#15
NorrisHopper30 Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Milford	In the end, Pitt will be the last thing voters remember this year and we can impress them then. Every other team has had close games as well (minus TCU). __________________ In Mick we trust

11-14-2009, 08:06 PM	#2
udonkey Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH	I haven't read the whole article yet, but since when can you see a "great view of the city behind the stadium"? Is he talking about PBS?

11-14-2009, 08:16 PM	#5
mjb1979 Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH	I can't argue with his premise. Really, the only part of the article I think he is absolutely wrong about is Kelly leaving after this year. Otherwise, he's right. Just being undefeated this year isn't going to be enough. That said, all I have really cared about is the BE title and winning a BCS game.

11-15-2009, 12:57 AM	#14
bearcatd Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cincy	Doyle is absolutely correct about missing an opportunity. I was happy with a win but bummed about the fact that it could have been much more. We still can impress against Illinois (which is a game that kind of scares me) and Pitt. Pitt looked really good last night against ND. That could be an interesting one. I'm concerned about the D stopping their running game. They also have some size at WR. We'll see I guess. On the Kelly front, both Dan Hoard, in his Heard it from Hoard column last week, and Paul Daugherty "feel" that BK is in this for the long haul. Both say it's just a feeling they have but it is nice to hear it from two respected journalists (you don't have to agree to respect). They both say they are not in the know but they both think he's a different type of coach who enjoys the extra parts of selling the UC program. No need to discuss this...it just makes me feel a little better about the whole situation.

11-15-2009, 01:14 PM	#16
SteveHolt! Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Dude is obviously a sensationalist DBag. "unranked WV'? well, 25 in the BCS isn't bad. If he wanted to use the AP, he should have at least said they were just outside the top 25. But that didn't fit his argument, so he omitted it. He wanted to write some BS that people who are unfamiliar with the rankings could just read and think'WV is a bad team' to top off his a$$hatedness, he goes on to say 'Especially when seven of Cincinnati's points were bogus.' Really? did he see the replay? I saw it on college gameday yesterday and it was clear it was a TD. they froze it and blew it up. no question. Only the most toothless homer would say that it wasn't. I wish we had won by more, and he could have made that argument without all the BS. Anytime someone takes a legit argument and piles onto it with a bunch of lies, half truths and BS, they are a douche. File him in that category! __________________ Volt for Holt!

11-15-2009, 02:08 PM	#17
marcuscan Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Utah may not have any quality wins, HOWEVER....neither does WVU. they are an average team, at best. mc

11-16-2009, 12:13 AM	#19
mikedenman Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Loveland	We all know this is the MAJOR flaw in college football. You just can't win all your games. You have to win "sexy". I say I have to agree with Doyle's assessment based on the flawed, un-American criteria that is the BCS. Until we have a 4, 6, or 8-team playoff, teams like UC, TCU, and others to follow will have to win "sexy" to get a shot at a title. It's unfortunate and un_americamn, but it is the system that exists. __________________ College of Business 1985

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