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Old 01-21-2010, 11:34 AM   #1
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I hate seeing it because to me James White's lack of maturity along with Mr. Deadlocks cost the team a likely NIT Championship. The two of them stopped going to class and could not play against the ultimate winner (USC) resulting in a close Quarterfinal loss.

I cannot stand to see him!
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:46 AM   #2
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It's the NIT..........not too concerned about it.

It doesn't bother me at all.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:14 PM   #3
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It's the NIT..........not too concerned about it.

It doesn't bother me at all.
Am I wrong or doesn't winning the NIT have something to do with your chances of going to the NCAA tournament the next year? Winning an NIT championship is a much bigger deal than you are making it.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:17 PM   #4
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It was not indicative for the future success of the program......at that time.

Kennedy was not being retained. He had not been recruiting (at least much) for UC.

We were graduating a plethora of impact seniors and didn't have much else on the roster.

I would be more troubled if the two were underclassmen and returning for the next season, rather than two seniors that didn't give a shi*.

I understand your argument, but don't think it applies in this case.

The NIT can be a great learning tool to help a young team that is unfamiliar with post-season play for the NEXT season.............and we all know how the next season turned out.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:17 PM   #5
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I hate seeing it because to me James White's lack of maturity along with Mr. Deadlocks cost the team a likely NIT Championship. The two of them stopped going to class and could not play against the ultimate winner (USC) resulting in a close Quarterfinal loss.

I cannot stand to see him!
The interim coach should have been blamed as much as the players.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:29 PM   #6
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Thing that pisses me off about the Great "Flight White" video is that he sucked compared to all the hype we heard before he was eligible. He was very underwhelming in his UC career. Outside of dunks, he was painfully average IMO.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:38 PM   #7
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The interim coach should have been blamed as much as the players.
haha what was AK supposed to do, physically make them go to classes? Some of you live in a dream world.

I couldn't care less about the NIT. Its a loser's tournament.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:48 PM   #8
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Thing that pisses me off about the Great "Flight White" video is that he sucked compared to all the hype we heard before he was eligible. He was very underwhelming in his UC career. Outside of dunks, he was painfully average IMO.
I thought he was a very solid player.

Good passer, handled well for a guy 6'6"-6'7", shot the ball well, solid defender, etc.

He was very skinny and got muscled sometimes on the boards, but he was a very, very solid player, IMO.

I would absolutely LOVE to have Flight on this team.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:55 PM   #9
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normally, i wouldn't be to excitied about an NIT championship, but that year would have been really nice to have that. with all the drama going on at the time, that would have been great. i remember the NIT games at the Shoe having an electric vibe to them.

oh - and what videos are you referring to?
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:00 PM   #10
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oh - and what videos are you referring to?
I was wondering the same thing...
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:08 PM   #11
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normally, i wouldn't be to excitied about an NIT championship, but that year would have been really nice to have that. with all the drama going on at the time, that would have been great. i remember the NIT games at the Shoe having an electric vibe to them.

oh - and what videos are you referring to?
I think he's referencing the intro video before the game starts. It doesn't bother me that he's on there so much, but there's probably others that could be featured that are missing.
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:14 PM   #12
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The interim coach should have been blamed as much as the players.
Your right Coach should've told them to go to class. Not sure why he didn't....
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:20 PM   #13
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I think he's referencing the intro video before the game starts.
I haven't been able to make it to a game yet this year (an 8 month old will do that to you) but do they still have the Donald Little shot vs. Marquette on the intro? I would think that would be more upsetting than seeing James White considering the circumstances that initiated Donald's departure.

I was at that Marquette game too. As soon as he shot it quite a few of us yelled, "No. No. No." And when it went in we all went nuts. I knew he had that jumper in him.
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haha what was AK supposed to do, physically make them go to classes? Some of you live in a dream world.

I couldn't care less about the NIT. Its a loser's tournament.
He could have not played them if they weren't going to class. That is generally a good enough wake up call for players not going to class, especially one with pro aspirations like White. Are you really going to act like you wouldn't blame Mick if this happened while he was at UC?

These two greatly contributed to the serious academic problems UC faced when Cronin was hired...
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:37 PM   #15
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haha what was AK supposed to do, physically make them go to classes? Some of you live in a dream world.

I couldn't care less about the NIT. Its a loser's tournament.
This has nothing to do with losing the NIT. Its about the realization that White and Jihad Muhammed are degenerates who should not be celebrated.
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:39 PM   #16
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Doesn't bother me. he was a good player.
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:44 PM   #17
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Flight was a very good player. That is why he was on 1-2 (or a few?) NBA rosters. I know he didn't play much or long. Everyone wants Herb Jones or NVE or KMart. He wasn't that but I'll take a player of his caliber evrey year.

I see Jihad from time to time. He is actually a very quiet and nice guy. I never asked about the going to class thing as I don't know him well, but if I see him again I'll ask him if he wants to comment on it. I am sure they feel bad about it. Let it go. There are many players whom have made mistakes which didn't help us or them (Players going pro early like KSat, Dontonio, players with DUI's whom made us look bad, D Little).
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This has nothing to do with losing the NIT. Its about the realization that White and Jihad Muhammed are degenerates who should not be celebrated.
I buy that argument. I didn't look at it that way, but you raise a valid point.

Off with their heads!
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:47 PM   #19
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This has nothing to do with losing the NIT. Its about the realization that White and Jihad Muhammed are degenerates who should not be celebrated.
Man, tell me, Mr McMicken, you ever miss class?? I am sure if they knew they would be ruled ineligible they wouldn't have done it. Basketball is their life. They made a mistake. Someone in compliance or the staff has to held accountable too.
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I haven't been able to make it to a game yet this year (an 8 month old will do that to you) but do they still have the Donald Little shot vs. Marquette on the intro? I would think that would be more upsetting than seeing James White considering the circumstances that initiated Donald's departure.

I was at that Marquette game too. As soon as he shot it quite a few of us yelled, "No. No. No." And when it went in we all went nuts. I knew he had that jumper in him.
I can't recall whether they have that in there, but I know they used to have a lot of Corey Blount footage, and that they took it all out once he got arrested for drug trafficking.
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